The macroeconomics of douchebags.

vanishing providers?

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Where's the shingles?

]if greenpeace joins this one[/SIZE] ...strong potential to be ...best ...thread ...ever Originally Posted by Plastic Man;1055293215[SIZE=3

No. Please no! I have a headache as it is.

One "Professor" in a thread is enough!

I am a little curious what the word "market" means to you if it has nothing to do with supply and demand?

The providers will charge what they can get. What they can get is influenced by what the other providers are getting. When the phone stops ringing, they lower their prices. When they have more business than they can serve, they raise them.

So, how is supply and demand not a factor? Originally Posted by vogon_slayer

Market, in this instance, is a component of the “Shadow Economy”. Within this economy reside prostitution, illegal gambling, and illicit drug sales – by the way – all of which gross more revenue than all big oil combined.

To an extent, you’re correct. Supply and Demand are somewhat of a factor in any transaction, but in this Shadow Economy things work a bit differently. Supply and Demand don’t carry as much weight.

The three facets of this market are all addictions. Therefore, to the mind of a buyer, it becomes a cost benefit analysis – a value proposition. It’s all about what the “customer” perceives as value. “Bang” for the buck! Since sex is a very powerful thing, some economic formulas are difficult to apply. (Since consumers are mostly thinking with their “little head”.)

Providers aren’t a fungible commodity, being of such nature or kind as to be freely exchangeable or replaceable, in whole or in part, for another of like nature or kind. So, mainly, prices remain static, albeit the occasional “Special”.

Also, Downward Sticky Prices come into play here: the resistance of a price (or set of prices) to change, despite changes in the broad economy that suggest a different price is optimal. "Sticky" is a general economics term that can apply to any financial variable that is resistant to change. When applied to prices, it means that the prices charged for certain goods or, in our case “services”, are reluctant to change despite changes in input cost or demand patterns.

Price stickiness can also occur in just one direction, as in "Sticky-Up" or "Sticky-Down". A price that is sticky-up, for instance, can move up rather easily but will only move down with pronounced variables in the economy, and never return to the original lowest price.

So, at the end of the day, after all this theoretical stuff, the smart provider will never lower her prices.

So far we have two “Professors” chiming in here – me and you. I’m still waiting for “greenpeace”.

P.S. I fell asleep in Economics 101 too!

my post in another thread seems a bit on topic here.

client: what you looking at girl
girl: relax, we have two hours before the owner comes back to do more painting
client: so want you looking for
girl: well (as she starts to talk he asks)
client: what was that noise in the basement
girl: will you relax and get ready. My pimp boyfriend is in the basement getting copper. I'm looking for the ahhhh pharmacy delivery.
She kicks the floor, you can hear the boy friend run out for the delivery. She and turns around and starts a BBBJ. She stops for a second to ask
girl: you seem nervous, relax
girl back at bj
client: thinking, WTF am I doing. If I did not need this for a review I would be running like hell. hum should I make this a yes or a no. Dam if that House fix-er-up guy did not beat me to that stripper, I would not be here.

latter after client is long done fucking her.
client is in his car getting ready to leave. But sees the girl and boyfriend run out like hell bat on wheels. Dropping some of the copper as they run.
Client thinking dang that guy that just pulled in the drive of that house looks like someone I met at a GOBC meeting.
more thinking as client drives away, This is going to make one hell of a review.


^^^ What do I think this experience would be like ^^^
or something like that

see, not abandoned. Just not ready to rent or lease. Dang that owner going to be pissed when he gets back with more paint to find he has to do the plumbing again.

mmmm wonder why that house fix-er-up guy on eccie seems so upset in that other guys review.
Maybe the op said to much in the ROS just sayin LOL

btw:
I'm seem the most on topic so far ahhh odd taint it LOL eh

ok done with edit Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

dear mod before hitting me for highjacking yet again
reread Drummer post #78

Market, in this instance, is a component of the “Shadow Economy”. Within this economy reside prostitution, illegal gambling, and illicit drug sales

example of *shadow Economy's" at work.
just sayin

if greenpeace joins this one ...strong potential to be ...best ...thread ...ever Originally Posted by Plastic Man

LOL!

When the phone stops ringing, they lower their prices. Originally Posted by vogon_slayer

Since when? I usually find when the phone stops ringing they complain. I do not see them dropping their prices tho.

Just going to ask a stupid question...

Why do you post here WU? I am respectfully asking(Our fearless mod DD asked us to be more respectful) of course.

You live 1500 miles away(assuming Houston is really where you are).

You have 4 "reviews" that have nothing to do with the "hobby", btw this is a escort board, not YELP.

And 13,000 posts. Which in 3+ years is a lot. Do you just troll the boards and interject where you feel necessary to add commentary?

Again, just trying to understand the purpose of posting in Upset NY.

Respectfully of course(see DD I can play nice) Originally Posted by Ozone1651

Since when? I usually find when the phone stops ringing they complain. I do not see them dropping their prices tho. Originally Posted by amishgangster

For my own case, when I first started and I had more responses than I could reply to, I jumped the price. After things equalized, I dropped back to the initial rate.

Recently, as interest dwindled and I stopped being able to fill Syracuse visits, I dropped it a little more. And my visits started filling up again.

I never really thought complaining helped much, though.



Actually, the complaining might be another interesting datapoint for this thread.

Sometimes (although I *thankfully* haven't noticed it on this forum), girls complain about other girls undercutting them and making the business tougher for upstanding women like themselves. This being a response to downward pressures on the market. (One which never made sense to me... I mean, figure out the difference between what you and the other girls are offering and play that up! If there isn't, find a way to add value. Failing that... and if you're not getting the business you want... well, I'm not sure the problem is the market.)


Then on the other hand, a lot of times guys will complain about "gold pussy syndrome," which in general seems to mean girls charging more than the speaker would like to pay for a more limited menu than they'd like. This being a response to upward pressures on the market. (One which similarly never made any sense to me. Encourage and invest in the business of people who are charging what you feel is reasonable. If it's not valuable enough for the savings, well... I'm still not sure the problem is the market.)



It kinda seems that, depending on the month and year, there are always pressures in all the directions, and it's up to savvy providers and consumers alike to adjust and take advantage.

Interesting to think about in bare terms, though.

You've got some points here, inre sticky prices. There is a downward limit on the price of the commodity of "providers". Who are also pretty damned nonfungible.

For openers, on the nonfungibility, there are tiers in the marketplace. Think of this like cars. BMWs sell for more than Kias. Their product is different. In fact, one of the specific products that BMW is selling is that they are a wealthy person's car. Similarly, Saige is selling a very different product than the typical BP netwalker. So she can command a premium for that, and no price drop on the BP B+G will directly impact her business... BUT, if there were a sudden glut of luxury providers in the Buffalo marketplace, some of the clients would re-examine their purchasing decisions.

Now, some hobbyists would like to go to Saige, and instead go to BP netwalkers. Why? Is not the BMW a more universally desireable car? It is. So people spend $140 for a B+G with a netwalker, or $70 for a car BJ with Bianca, in general, because they do not want to spend the $300 on Saige (neglecting personal kinks; I found the car BJ with Bianca in a busy parking lot to be REALLY hot). If she lowers her rates, say, to $250, some of those will upgrade their service. And downward it will ripple.

Say you're looking at 2 providers on equal footing. Similar tier of service, same quality of reviews, similar aesthetic qualities (let's say you're traveling, so you've never seen either of them). Will you consider price in your decision making process? Of COURSE you will! So, in the buffalo/niagara falls area, on that basis, you'd probably go see Victoria Lane for $200 instead of Saige at $300!

For that matter, look at the progression of Saige's personal pricing. She started out at $180/hour, and is now at $300. Why would you figure that would have happened? I suspect it had something to do with being in demand.

There are, as you've pointed out, some other factors. Risks have to be priced in. In Amsterdam, the standard pricing for a B+G is $70 (50 euros). Which serves both of our points reasonably well, yours in that prices are sticky on the downside, and mine in that supply and demand are factors.

There are a BUNCH of other factors that mess with direct supply and demand here, for instance, the appeal of the new, seeing a different girl than last time has perceived value. But in the main, it's still a market. And markets are controlled by supply and demand. It may take time, and it may not be obvious that it's happening, but it will still happen.

Yeah, it's fun to have another prof here to play with.

Market, in this instance, is a component of the “Shadow Economy”. Within this economy reside prostitution, illegal gambling, and illicit drug sales – by the way – all of which gross more revenue than all big oil combined.

To an extent, you’re correct. Supply and Demand are somewhat of a factor in any transaction, but in this Shadow Economy things work a bit differently. Supply and Demand don’t carry as much weight.

The three facets of this market are all addictions. Therefore, to the mind of a buyer, it becomes a cost benefit analysis – a value proposition. It’s all about what the “customer” perceives as value. “Bang” for the buck! Since sex is a very powerful thing, some economic formulas are difficult to apply. (Since consumers are mostly thinking with their “little head”.)

Providers aren’t a fungible commodity, being of such nature or kind as to be freely exchangeable or replaceable, in whole or in part, for another of like nature or kind. So, mainly, prices remain static, albeit the occasional “Special”.

Also, Downward Sticky Prices come into play here: the resistance of a price (or set of prices) to change, despite changes in the broad economy that suggest a different price is optimal. "Sticky" is a general economics term that can apply to any financial variable that is resistant to change. When applied to prices, it means that the prices charged for certain goods or, in our case “services”, are reluctant to change despite changes in input cost or demand patterns.

Price stickiness can also occur in just one direction, as in "Sticky-Up" or "Sticky-Down". A price that is sticky-up, for instance, can move up rather easily but will only move down with pronounced variables in the economy, and never return to the original lowest price.

So, at the end of the day, after all this theoretical stuff, the smart provider will never lower her prices.

So far we have two “Professors” chiming in here – me and you. I’m still waiting for “greenpeace”.

P.S. I fell asleep in Economics 101 too! Originally Posted by The Drummer

All good points, "Professor" vogon slayer. Professor vogon slayer? Has a nice ring to it -- sounds German.



It turns out to be an interesting discussion with many intersections of thought and commonalities.

And thank you to Lucyny who presents the side of the fairer sex.
"Professor" TD

Thank you I thought it could be a fun subject to play with

Thank you I thought it could be a fun subject to play with Originally Posted by vogon_slayer

Yup.

Oh where is Greenpeace when ya need him???.....
He could clear this all up in one post.... Originally Posted by Celso

Urn Theory and ants. Have at it!

Brevity being the soul of wit!!

Leave you to decipher that as well!

Since when? I usually find when the phone stops ringing they complain. Originally Posted by amishgangster

Name 3.

Urn Theory and ants. Have at it!

Brevity being the soul of wit!!

Leave you to decipher that as well! Originally Posted by greenpeace2014

I do know Urn Theory has something to do with Probability and Statistics, but the Ants I "ain't quite got" yet!!!

"Professor"; is it something to do with fire ants violating your ass? Just askin'.