WTF thinks Capitalism is the cause of the Federal debt. now let's see him prove it.

that you are a dog? what's so silly about that? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

And you say you want civility....

We are living in a capitalist society that has amassed 23 trillion dollars of debt. Hard to blame that on communism Originally Posted by WTF

The society didn't amass the debt the Gumment did. How do you equate capitalism with runaway Gumment spending...THE EARNERS HAVE NO SAY AS TO HOW MUCH MONEY IS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM TO BE BLOWN ON WASTEFUL SPENDING...YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT. It like saying me wife charged up all my credit cards and cleaned out all my account and now I have to file bankruptcy. The people who earn the money have it taken from them...what a stupid analogy...capitalism causes runaway spending!!
One the other hand socialism is completely flawed because eventually...YOU RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.
Capitalism is what is feeding the beast...THIS IS FORCED NOT VOLUNTARILY.

You can't explain this anyway you try.
With this analogy the Jews were responsible for the holocaust??

We live in a society in which WTF(in his own mind, a god) was born(anti-abortion laws were still in effect).

Anti-abortion laws(which enabled WTF's existence) caused 23 trillion dollars in federal debt.

The logic is equivelant to WTF's.

The society didn't amass the debt the Gumment did. How do you equate capitalism with runaway Gumment spending...THE EARNERS HAVE NO SAY AS TO HOW MUCH MONEY IS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM TO BE BLOWN ON WASTEFUL SPENDING...YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT. It like saying me wife charged up all my credit cards and cleaned out all my account and now I have to file bankruptcy. The people who earn the money have it taken from them...what a stupid analogy...capitalism causes runaway spending!!
One the other hand socialism is completely flawed because eventually...YOU RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.
Capitalism is what is feeding the beast...THIS IS FORCED NOT VOLUNTARILY.

You can't explain this anyway you try.
Were the Jews responsible for the holocaust?? Originally Posted by bb1961

Who married your wife?

I didn't.

I'm not responsible for her cleaning out your bank account.

Think of socialism and capitalism as wives.

They will clean you out eventually....so far to the tune of 23 trillion for a Capitalist one!

Who married your wife?

I didn't.

I'm not responsible for her cleaning out your bank account.

Think of socialism and capitalism as wives.

They will clean you out eventually....so far to the tune of 23 trillion for a Capitalist one! Originally Posted by WTF

nonsensical

capitalism builds wealth

socialism doesn't

now in one sense capitalism could contribute to the deficit, and that's when, after seeing the bounty capitalism provides, government provides to the envious and slothful or to the government employees featherbedding their nests because of all the unfairness

nonsensical

capitalism builds wealth

socialism doesn't

now in one sense capitalism could contribute to the deficit, and that's when, after seeing the bounty capitalism provides, government provides to the envious and slothful or to the government employees featherbedding their nests because of all the unfairness Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

you just described Bernie's entire platform!

you just described Bernie's entire platform! Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

exactamundo mi pisano

Who married your wife?

I didn't.

I'm not responsible for her cleaning out your bank account.

Think of socialism and capitalism as wives.

They will clean you out eventually....so far to the tune of 23 trillion for a Capitalist one! Originally Posted by WTF

The problem is that you don't have a logical thought process...You didn't address the Gumment runaway spending only trying to link that with capitalism. Socialism and Capitalism as wives...as I said your thought process is not on a rational level. Capitalism makes and Socialism takes.You talk more and more nonsense with every post in this thread because you can't link Gumment runaway spending with Capitalism. The confiscatory taxes that the Gumment takes from the Capitalist engine (the producers in America) and this continues to get the country deeper and deeper in debt. Your stupid thesis is "Capitalism caused the debt"...no Capitalism is financing the debt, but not voluntarily only under threat of law.
I'm sure you'll come back with more "brilliance" like:


Think of socialism and capitalism as wives.

. Your stupid thesis is "Capitalism caused the debt"...no Capitalism is financing the debt, but not voluntarily only under threat of law.
. Originally Posted by bb1961

We are a Capitalist Society.

Capitalist try and maximize their profits. If they can get government to fund infrastructure and say Defense of shipping lanes without that business footing that bill. They do it right?

So think of it like this , you have business trying to maximizing their profits by lets say contributing to politicians to reduce their taxes for shipping lane defense, Court costs and general things businesses need to prosper.

If those Capitalists' businesses succeed at not paying their share of the cost of running a capitalists' society we then as a government grow deficits/debt (23 trillion)

That is how one can blame capitalisms. One can call it greed or human nature....it works the same in every society no matter the nature of the form of government that is chosen.

We are a Capitalist Society.

Capitalist try and maximize their profits. If they can get government to fund infrastructure and say Defense of shipping lanes without that business footing that bill. They do it right?

So think of it like this , you have business trying to maximizing their profits by lets say contributing to politicians to reduce their taxes for shipping lane defense, Court costs and general things businesses need to prosper.

If those Capitalists' businesses succeed at not paying their share of the cost of running a capitalists' society we then as a government grow deficits/debt (23 trillion)

That is how one can blame capitalisms. One can call it greed or human nature....it works the same in every society no matter the nature of the form of government that is chosen. Originally Posted by WTF

Maybe those Chinese Commies should pay our Military for keeping the oil flowing. They get it from The Middle East. Not to mention Japan, SK and those Euro Socialists. And while we’re at it, charge them for the security we provide them. Problem solved.

Maybe those Chinese Commies should pay our Military for keeping the oil flowing. They get it from The Middle East. Originally Posted by bambino

That is a very good thought but we are ceding the ME to Russia.

We are a Capitalist Society.

Capitalist try and maximize their profits. If they can get government to fund infrastructure and say Defense of shipping lanes without that business footing that bill. They do it right?

So think of it like this , you have business trying to maximizing their profits by lets say contributing to politicians to reduce their taxes for shipping lane defense, Court costs and general things businesses need to prosper.

If those Capitalists' businesses succeed at not paying their share of the cost of running a capitalists' society we then as a government grow deficits/debt (23 trillion)

That is how one can blame capitalisms. One can call it greed or human nature....it works the same in every society no matter the nature of the form of government that is chosen. Originally Posted by WTF

WTF .. are you talking about?? are you talking about corporate tax rates? corporate tax fraud? that's a crime and if they get caught they get fined by the IRS. that in no way directly ties the Fed debt to capitalism!


are you talking about the corporate tax rate?? like Amazon using Ireland as a tax shelter because their rates are far lower? well blame the same people who are responsible for the tax codes who are also responsible for the fed debt!!


CONGRESS


wtf is so hard for you to understand about that?

How do you equate capitalism with runaway Gumment spending...THE EARNERS HAVE NO SAY AS TO HOW MUCH MONEY IS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM TO BE BLOWN ON WASTEFUL SPENDING...YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT.


You can't explain this anyway you try.
With this analogy the Jews were responsible for the holocaust?? Originally Posted by bb1961

That last sentence just shows how stupid you are. Even after that first part in red. You know you CAN vote for a more representative Congress. Right?

The Jewish people couldn't vote NOT to be exterminated.

WTF .. are you talking about?? are you talking about corporate tax rates? corporate tax fraud? that's a crime and if they get caught they get fined by the IRS. that in no way directly ties the Fed debt to capitalism!


are you talking about the corporate tax rate?? like Amazon using Ireland as a tax shelter because their rates are far lower? well blame the same people who are responsible for the tax codes who are also responsible for the fed debt!!


CONGRESS


wtf is so hard for you to understand about that? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Same goes for you.

Congress had been passing laws written by big business (multinational corporations) to squeeze labor. And still be bailed out when it doesn't work. WTF is so hard about remembering that?












This why the country is in a tailspin.

That last sentence just shows how stupid you are. Even after that first part in red. You know you CAN vote for a more representative Congress. Right?

The Jewish people couldn't vote NOT to be exterminated.



Same goes for you.

Congress had been passing laws written by big business (multinational corporations) to squeeze labor. And still be bailed out when it doesn't work. WTF is so hard about remembering that?




This why the country is in a tailspin. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

and you think socialist agendas are going to fix that?


you want to fix Congress? outlaw all lobbying.



what's the difference between a lobbyist for the Ku Klux Klan and a lobbyist for the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs?


who's briefcase is heavier ..

you want to fix Congress? outlaw all lobbying.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

This Capitalist society will not allow the outlawing of bribing or as you call it lobbying Congress.

This capitalist's part of society does not care about government debt....it cares about wall street profit.

Unfortunately the Chinese's virus has gotten in the way. that Black swan event you thought could never happen to derail your Lord and Savior DJ Trump.