LexusLover's Save the World thread

Tight security is at odds with ownership's desire to make money - more eyeballs = more money.

Always assume that anything you write on Eccie (or any other hobby board) will end up in the wrong hands, be it a vengeful provider, a "bro" who will throw you under the bus, or those who wish to prosecute what consenting adults do in private.

It's about both. Tell us your plan, which is obviously why you're here. You're not here to fuck chicks, that's obvious, because if you we're using other people's reviews to fuck chicks while saying that those same reviews are the reason chicks get busted and no one should write them, then you'd be a hypocritical douchebag, and no one wants to think that about you, I'm sure. Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Opportunistic <> Hypocritical

I can think of plenty of situations that I wish were different, but since they're not, I'm going to take advantage of the way they are. That makes me opportunistic (some would say realistic) rather than hypocritical.

I agree that just being opportunistic doesn't equal being hypocritical. I'm opportunistic. I don't review, but a sometimes I use the reviews and info from friends here to find girls. Makes me opportunistic, among other things, sure. Then again, I'm not the one saying that no one here should ever write reviews because they harm the girls/spas/agencies yet at the same time using those same reviews to find girls to fuck.

That's opportunistic, but also hypocritical...

That's why I asked him what his plan was. He obviously doesn't think he's hypocritical, so that means that he must NOT be using reviews here to find girls, so if he's not using the info here to find girls, and he doesn't want anyone to write any reviews at all, then why is he here? He must have some plan that explains why he's here...I'm just interested in knowing what it is...

I mean, it's got to be for the good of the board and the people who use it right? So why keep it a big secret?

All of this stuff is actually old news.

Blowpop and I were hanging with Amber when ASPD first came online back in the winter of 1999. We all knew at LE would have access to the site.

Nothing has changed since then as far as LE goes, however there has been times we've seen TV newscasts where hobby websites, even reviews, were shown to viewers.

I've always assumed that LE had access to everything posted on these sites, but I don't know what value it's been to them.

From what I remember the worst thing that's happened to us in the Houston area was BT and the raid at one of the socials.

If and when this website gets shut down, then it's time to start really worrying.

Until then, it's business as usual.

Spirit...... you have been drinking.........

Save it for a better cause,,,,,, he is on my shit radar too.... I just cannot type that fast...... Originally Posted by lookn4boobies

Only on days whose names end with the letter Y do I drink

seriously... I gave up on LL a long time ago..

Only on days whose names end with the letter Y do I drink

seriously... I gave up on LL a long time ago.. Originally Posted by Spirit13

Me too.........

Then again, I'm not the one saying that no one here should ever write reviews because they harm the girls/spas/agencies yet at the same time using those same reviews to find girls to fuck. Originally Posted by Wakeuр

You cannot name one person on this board that has said:

"no one here should ever write reviews because they harm the girls/spas/agencies"

and if you are addressing me ... find the post in which I said that....those words!

Not your lame ass "interpretation" of them ...

All of this stuff is actually old news.

Blowpop and I were hanging with Amber when ASPD first came online back in the winter of 1999. We all knew at LE would have access to the site.


Until then, it's business as usual. Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

I wasn't far behind, and I will say that most of the facts are "old news" but some of the attitudes and behavior displayed in threads is relative new. I didn't review then, and it didn't seem to get under anyone's skin like it does now!

I spent most of my time in the Political Forum .. there is some ugliness on here now. So, its not really "business as usual."

And no one was ever ignorant enough to suggest I was a cop!

It's hardly our fault that you don't like the interpretations other people have of things you've said, I'm giving you a chance to tell the membership exactly what you mean and exactly how the board needs to change to suit your ideas of better protecting the girls and ourselves. Why not clarify them so there's no room for interpretation?

It's hardly our fault that you don't like the interpretations other people have of things you've said, ... Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Who is "our"? I will ask you again:

Where is the statement that I made that you misinterpreted?

Thread, post #, date.

It's time to put up or shut up! For you!

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So I will add this.. LL, you and I have tangled in the past, we both have gotten "dinged" for it.. my personal belief is you are a cop, or work with them etc since you never seem to have anything positive to add to this board, I am sure you think highly of me too... but this board is an information exchange board....

.. Originally Posted by Spirit13

Spirit, you may have to go back to hiding his posts. lol

But, on a more serious note, accusing someone of being le or working with le is a serious charge. You worded it a little different but meant the same. So, please forward me any proof you have of this charge. Gut feelings do not fly to hurt anyones reputation on the board. If there is no proof, only a gut feeling, then be quiet about it. We have to deal with claims all the time that are unfounded.

If some is working for le because they do not contribute positive to the board, then this is a great site for the next le convention, cause there are a hell of a lot of 'em here already.

I just want to be known as a positive contributing member of the hooktard board society.........is that too much to ask?

Where is the statement that I made that you misinterpreted?

Thread, post #, date.

It's time to put up or shut up! For you! Originally Posted by LexusLover

C'mon man...do we really have to do this? Sigh...

IMO there is too much public information being disclosed in the above posts, and .... FYI ... Montgomery County LE does drive throughs in that area .... which they apparently perceive as their ETJ ... due to its proximatey to "The Woodlands" ... there was a place in that area that lost an LMT .... apparently after a review on the board with follow ups.

I am just suggesting to restrict the reporting of information to PM's? At least give LE some work to locate what, where, and who? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as you saying that a review here, and the comments posted on it, were the specific cause that an LMT got fired. Interpreted as you saying that reviews should be eliminated and LMT/Spa info should only be given out via PMs to each other.

You all go ahead and burn those places and people.[/COLOR] Originally Posted by LexusLover;1978037As said before: One can take a horse to water, but not make him drink.

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Interpreted as the information in the reviews directly leading to the places and people being arrested.

#1: If the RMT gets fired or run out of business no one in "the clan" benefits anyway .... only the reviewer who gets another "notch" ...

#2: an alternative method of communication (PM's) could be devised with generic descriptions of the therapy aspects of the encounter ....

The ASPD policy was sound and reasonable. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as reviews need to be restricted to PMs only for these sections. Interpreted as saying that a policy previously established on another board is one you agree with.

But ... like a poster said at me in another thread ... reviewing an RMT/LMT who gets terminated or has her license revoked because of the review .... is just a risk .... Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as a belief that a review can actually directly lead to an LMT getting her license revoked.

Sensia, the RMT's advertise on BP in the "therapuetic" section and their phone numbers will connect to their posting of their RMT license which they are required to display and advertise. The section is clearly labeled: "Houston Therapuetic Massage" for ALL to see.

Apparently, ECCIE has NO policy on reviewing RMT's although there IS one on giving out stage names of STRIPPERS at clubs ... go figure!

Interesting: We can't reveal a stripper's stage name, but we can disclose the information to identify the real name AND address of an RMT/LMT. Is that because we have "stripper friends" and "club owner friends" on the board? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as the Therapeutic Massage section on BP is off limits for reviewers because only LMTs post there. Interpreted as now including the Strip Club Review section in the same group as LMTs as far as reviews go. Interpreted as the board showing bias toward club owners and strippers who possibly have influence over the rules here on the board.

Jad.... that does no good once it is posted. I have "googled" posts that have been changed, modified, or deleted and they are still "on the net" and searchable.

LE has "representatives" and officers who do nothing but internet scouting 24/7. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as saying that once a review is posted here, it is forever searchable and the damage is done.

The other thing that comes to mind is these reviews are bot crawled on the web. What happens to a non provider LMT/RMT if you review her, and lets say she doesn't know about this site, or others, or even what a review is, but someone at her place of employment runs across the review online? Now she loses her job.. and she can't figure out what happened.

She has no idea of this little world of ours.. and wouldn't know anything about any of these sites. Folks there are legitimate massage therapists out there.. and what if a guy does a review that says TOFTT and all he got was a massage, but now that review is on the web. She still gets in trouble because of what is implied and the fact it is on a site like this. Originally Posted by Sensia

Interpreted as a review here being found by a coworker at her job and the LMT getting fired because of it.

Outing is outing.

Giving out someone's legitimate business phone number gives everyone (including LE) all the information they need to identify the persons associated with that phone number .... most businesses have some sort of "certification" to do business that is a public record and available to internet access and it takes minutes to track down details of their person and lives..... marital status, birth dates, driver's license numbers, .. etc. ..... how does the screening on here go?

If anyone ever had a curiosity as to why I will not post any reviews there it is .... selective and disparate application of the principles that form the philosophical basis for the existence of the board. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as a review here of an LMT is outing that LMT. Interpreted as your lack of reviews is because the owners/moderators supposedly treat one group differently than another.

It goes like this:

Hobbyist calls an RMT in the therapeutic section of the BP ... and while getting his MASSAGE persuades her to give him a HJ for some extra bucks.... and then costs her the license by posting a review without her knowing he was even on this board or going to post her activities in a PUBLIC FORUM! Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as a review here directly causes LMTs to lose their licenses.

Not at the feet of the staff ..

... at the feet of the hobbyists who post the review of an LMT.

With all due respect JaD .. where's the responsibility of the hobbyists? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as an LMT losing their job is the direct fault of the hobbyists here on the board who reviewed her.

I just saw in another forum a mod cautioning about providing the specific address and name of a hotel in which a session occurred with a provider that was reviewed with specfiic activities ....

there is absolutely no distinction between doing that and ...

posting a review of activities at a spa ... or any where else. EXCEPT ...

the provider can "move about the country" .... and the spa CAN'T!

Does this Board make money off reviews? Or dues and advertising? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as saying that now Spas are in the same group as LMTs and strippers when it comes to doing reviews.

I keep posting this ... as long as folks keep "reviewing" these spots in North Harris and South MOCO they will get hit and closed, or driven out of business by the "presence" in the parking lots and immediate area. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as the hobbyists posting reviews of Spas in North Harris County and South Montgomery County are directly responsible for thoe places getting busted by LE or run out of b usiness by the community.

As long as reviews are posted listing activities and locations, ....

..... the spas are gonna get hit. If the same standard applied to independents or agencies it would be the same result.

And it only takes one review "with extras" for the hammer to fall. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Interpreted as reviews here directly lead to Spas being busted. Interpreted as a single review here listing illegal activities is enough to get a Spa busted.


This was just a quick search LL. Not being a dick, but I find it hard to believe that anyone reading these quotes would think anything vastly different than what I'm interpreting them to say. This leads directly to the point I had in starting this thread.

You bitch, a LOT, about LMTs, Strippers, and Spas getting busted. In the course of this bitching, you throw around your passing the bar and your interactions with the justice system as validation of your opinions. The mods have asked you on multiple occasions to present to them a course of action that you'd like to see implemented to correct the situation you feel so passionate about. You have ignored those requests. Here's your chance...to not only get your plan to save the world out there for everyone to see, but to explain your overall stance concerning the evils of this board.

Your choice to respond...once again...but be warned...your "I told you about doing reviews here" posts in the Alert forums will have lost all of their credibility if you're going to continue to choose to sit in the corner and whine about things rather than try to fix them...

Just...sayin'...

...what's your plan to stop the feds, local cops, state cops, and anyone else with a badge, from learning anything from this site that can be used to bust providers, whether independent, spa, or agency.

...I'm honestly interested. Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Just as I thought ... this is your original post .... aka op ...

"bust providers, whether independent, spa, or agency"......

"Save the World Thread"

"....no one here should ever write reviews ....."

And the best you can do is bring up RMT/LMT's? That's it? That's all of it?

Where's the "no reviews" posts of which you have accused me?

That's all this thread is about .....???? RMT/LMT's??????

Go back to bashing overweight providers .... you're wasting your time here "buddy"!

WU ... you are friggin light-weight joke ... a keyboard warrior of the 3rd class!

Here's the nail in your intellectual coffin ...

"I'm not the one saying that no one here should ever write reviews because they harm the girls/spas/agencies ......"

I asked you ....

"Where is the statement that I made that you misinterpreted?

Thread, post #, date.

It's time to put up or shut up! For you!"

And you go dig up some RMT/LMT posts .... you are a waste of time!

Keep your "day job" .... your reading comprehension won't cut it.

You HAVE misinterpreted what I was writing .... AND in the intent ...if you got out of it ... "no one here should ever write reviews"!!!!!

And then you write this:

"... you throw around your passing the bar ..."

You just never quit making up shit .. do you?

Thread, post #, and date??????? Never have I written that on this Board!

What are you trying to do ..... tap dance around "outing" ... you are dangerous!

You have fun now, here?

Now if there are any providers out there who would enjoy my company for a while without having a review written, without having the fee negotiated, and with an excellent probability of a tip at their incall, please PM and lets see if we can set something up or just contact on P411 if that is an option for you, and we've met before 2nd and 3rds are ok with me.