PRINCESS MICHELLE SPENDS ANOTHER $100,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY NEEDLESSLY

You're the one who left out 4 years in Indonesia, trying to make it look like he never left the states. Born and raised in Hawaii? Yes, except for 4 years IN INDONESIA!! That's a little different than 4 years in Albuquerque. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

But that is not wtf you said grasshopper!

Actually, WTF, he was born in Hawaii, but raised in Indonesia. Don't worry, I'm getting used to correcting your inaccuracies. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

. He grew up in Indo. He just was born in Hawaii. . Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

I barely remember any teachers from elementary but all my teachers from Junior High and High School. I'm 51. I moved from one place to another one year (6th -12, Obama was 5th-12 plus birth to 4years old!) after Obama and I sure the fuc would not want two people to lie about where I grew up. You two did just that. You made no mention of him actually being raised in Hawaii.

That was done either by ignorance or deception. Which was it?

Ah, ignorance or deception. Interesting, since you are the one who didn't tell the truth. Makes me wonder . . .

Ah, ignorance or deception. Interesting, since you are the one who didn't tell the truth. Makes me wonder . . . Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I said he grew up in Hawaii.

You and Olivia said he grew up in Indonesia.

Which one of the three were closer to the truth, You and Olivia or me?


I have repeadetly said that he spent the first four/five years of his life in Hawaii, the next four in Indonesia and the last 8/9 in Hawaii.

You nor Olivia never mentioned that fact.

Again, which is more decietiful?

Actually, WTF, he was born in Hawaii, but raised in Indonesia. Don't worry, I'm getting used to correcting your inaccuracies. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

. He grew up in Indo. He just was born in Hawaii. . Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

At least Olivia has the good sense not to renter this discussion! It is there in black and white for all to see. Admit it, you were mistaken

You said he was raised in Hawaii, which was a lie. He was raised in Hawaii AND Indonesia. Get over it, you've been caught. Now STFU and go lie on another thread.

Oh, Happy Holidays!

You said he was raised in Hawaii, which was a lie. He was raised in Hawaii AND Indonesia. Get over it, you've been caught. Now STFU and go lie on another thread.

Oh, Happy Holidays!

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

And you and Olivia said he was raised in Indonesia.

My question is...Which is closer to the truth?

If you had to pick just one.

4 years in one place and 14 in the the other?

Yes he was also raised in Indo but mostly Hawaii.

And finally something I can agree with ya on! Have a Happy Holiday.

You didn't say "mostly" you implied "only". That was wrong. Deal with it. And a Happy New Year, as well.

WTF did you two imply?....

Actually, WTF, he was born in Hawaii, but raised in Indonesia. Don't worry, I'm getting used to correcting your inaccuracies. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

. He grew up in Indo. He just was born in Hawaii. . Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Well at least you and Olivia have learnt that he did not grow up in Indo.

My work is done.

It's been done for awhile.

It's been done for awhile. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

COG, the thread was about Obama vacationing in his home state.

Whit that backdrop...

Do you think I should have said that he really should be vacationing in Indo instead of say Illinois like what the person I was talking to was saying? Or should I have said Hawaii like I said? Do you think I was trying to fool someone into believing that Obama had not spent time in Indo?

You and Olivia were the one's either lying or ignorant of the truth. From the context of the conversation -him vacationing where he grew up- which would be Hawaii or Illinois , l was perfectly in line to say Hawaii without injecting Indo.

Only when you and Olivia said what you said, did we go off on this wild goose chase because neither of you would admit that you actually thought he grew up in Indo.

I thought you were done?

They probably dont remember him in Hawaii. Wasn't he calling himself Barry in high school and college? And don't ask him who his favorite baseball team was because he doesn't even know. One minute it's the White Sox then later it's Oakland. Typical politician.

Why would a flight cost $100,000??


She flying in a gold plane or something?

I thought you were done? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

'Tiffany' will never be done under achieving.

Why would a flight cost $100,000??


She flying in a gold plane or something? Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

Good question. What did we do before the internet?

Its about 8000Km from DC to Hawaii.
Multiply by .6 to get the number of miles.
A 747 cruises at approximately 550 mph
A 747 uses about 25000 lbs of fuel an hour
It takes about 3000 lbs of fuel extra for taxiing and takeoff
A gallon of jet fuel weights 6.84 lbs
A gallon of jet fuel delivered and pumped into the jet at Reagan Airport varies but averages about $5

This means the cost was about $161,000

Muncher, check my figures. Didn't double check any source. Princess Michelle may well have gone on another plane other than a 747. Cost doesn't include any carbon credit offsets.

'Tiffany' will never be done under achieving.



. Originally Posted by gnadfly

Not as long as I keep hanging around you losers!

Shit, the OP made it sound like she hopped a plane all by herself, or that there wasn't a way where she simply caught a flight ALREADY GOING to Hawaii. He's spouting off about shit that A, no one cares about (but him), B, hasn't been done by Gov't officials before, C, he don't know the specifics of her leaving, the convenience of it, nor the true expenses of.

None of these officials pay their own way to go anywhere. NONE OF THEM DO, so what the hell is the big fucking deal about the current first lady doing it?

Hell, white Presidents have been fucking up the country for 200 years. Give us a chance to fuck it up some. Fair is fair.