For the MEN: How do you choose....?

Damnit ... I had my money on a "dumbass" comment. Damn. Just damn. Originally Posted by pyramider

it never fails

Wow. Thank you for a detailed answer and useful tips. This should be a sticky! Originally Posted by anita

AGREE +100

When looking for a Provider that you want to spend time with, how do you choose, when there are so many posts up?

Any comments or examples are appreciated. Originally Posted by Cyndi Lyn

I use a complex mathematical formula that calculates a rate. If the providers rate excedes my calculation then I move on to the next provider.

Calculation: Service X Hotness X Age X Location X Reviews X Smoker

Then I pray for the best.

Showcase and reviews consistency. If the reviews are all over ( menu) then something is up. Then the communication part, regardless what the review says how easy she to communicate with, and may be the case with the reviewer. I might get a different result. I definately think the timely communication and meaningful replies (actually replying to questions ie would you dress up in a schoolgirl outfit? Her response would be when would you like to see me? ). They are locked deals for me and icing on the cake.

To really sum it up ... you have learned:
90% of the guys don't give a shit about your cute Name or your cute Headline.
50% of us click every ad.
40% of use something other than Name or Headline.
And it should be obvious to you that none of those "other" choosers give a shit about number of views. So, there has to something about the Name or the Headline that makes them NOT click on it or choose to skip it!

So, 40% of us don't click on every ad, but as I stated I do in my earlier comments: skip certain ads because I already know those providers aren't for me - in my case ladies that I know have d+ breasts, because I have noted their names from previous searches. Likewise, a percentage of these 40% "other" choosers SKIP your ad because something in the headline DOESN'T meet a criteria - ie - $80 BNG CBJ - would get a skip from me because I want a BBBJ. So, while I know you were trying to find out what magic words you can put in your ad to make them impossible to skip, what you really found out was your name and headline are more likely to cause someone to skip you than to click on you.

Next if you read the comments that really didn't pertain directly to your question - again these guys have to be in the 90% group - because if they were clicking on ads because of a Name or Headline they would have already answered your question and wouldn't have felt the need to elaborate. What they were telling you is that they are ignoring the Name and Headline and something inside or past that point (which was really where your question ended) is where the decision making happens.
SO 90% of us guys click on ads without much processing
the processing happens on the inside or past the name and headline stage.

SO I WENT BACK AND COMPILED WHAT WE ALL SAID TO THIS POINT:

15 - 26% Visual Appeal - Photos - Pictures

Many were careful to point out beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so we are all looking for different things. The timeliness of photos was mentioned several times - ie - new photos, current photos, accurate photos

11 - 19% Activity Match - Services provided

Again, we were all careful to point out we each have "deal breakers" and specific services we look for from providers, we each just want to know you match our list

9 - 16% Rate - Price - Special

Everyone was quick to point out that they were looking to see if you fit our budget and everyone has a different price point

7 - 12% Personality - Attitude - Style

This seems to be a combination of reviews, comment of posts, how you right your ad text and profile (again all past Name and Headline at this point) IMHO an interview style video is the best way to convey personality. I am not talking about a sex video or erotica video (which is what most have if there is a video) Google - Porn Star Interview and you will see what will work best - hell keep your clothes on your pictures should already tell me what you look like naked.

7 - 12% Reviews - Quality of Service - Reputation

All this pretty much comes from the reviews section. Seriously, just want to know you deliver what you promise most of the time.

2 - 4% Ease of Contact

I lumped together two things here 1) speed of contact and 2) ease of contact, so are you likely to get back to us quickly and the multiple choices of ways to contact you coupled with easily finding your contact information listed in multiple places and consistent information.

2 - 4% Location
1 - 2% Availability

Could have lumped these together as scheduling they all were kind of saying the same thing are you close to where I need to see you and are your times fitting my times.

1 - 2% Smoking Preference
1 - 2% Newbie Friendly
1 - 2% Black Friendly

So, we have answered your question you just needed to do a little data mining to see the answer - I guess you could try and write a perfect headline - which is going to be really hard because Services and Rates are hit and miss from guy to guy and so a guy's click for one service leads to a skip for another guy and you only have so much space on a headline to describe Personality, Location options and rest:

Current New Photos - Complete Landry list for services and prices... - Detailed Personality Description - Well Reviewed - w/ multiple easy to find contact options and fast response to initial contact - Complete location list and detailed availability times - that is Non-smoking and Black and Newbie Friendly! Call NOW!!!

OR you could hear what we are all saying and trying so hard to tell you and that is 90% of us blow past the Name and the Headline ... SO ... use the above list as a template to "how to write a great ad" - since it is too hard to put everything in the headline and omissions of information and limiting information lead to Skipping of the ad by 40% of us

SO HOW WOULD I DO IT WITH 25 YEARS OF ADVERTISING EXPERIENCE - GALD YOU ASKED

HEADLINE: INSIDE --- New Picture & Video - Detail of Services w/ Special Rates - Highly reviewed - Non smoking - Newbie Friendly - Black 35+ OK - Fast Scheduling

Visual - Now once inside on the ad page go out to your car and take a selfie like you have already done 100 times, then date it and post it on your ad first thing.
Activity Match, Rate and Price - Now list all your services in alphabetize
BBBJNQNS - CFS - no anal - DATY - DATO - no TUHA - no BBFS - INCALL - OUTCALL- no FIV - DFK - LFK - HJ - FBSM - ETC ... <<< in this format
[(make it a detailed list if you do do it say so if you don't do it say so - no pricing in this part- we need to be able to scan quickly and make sure what we want is on the menu) or put a detailed list in your profile text and say list of services (see Profile) or copy what you already have listed in your profile here (best option because you have it BOTH places and you are making it easy for us)]
then list detailed time periods and pricing - 30 min $150 - 1 hr $250 - 3 hr $300 ($200 off) make sure 2 or 3 or 4 are highlighted as specials or discounted pricing. Make this part a table. add extras here like Anal +50 MSOG +50 Outcall +25 [side note - if your idea of MSOG is one extra pop than I would say MSOG +50 per shot]
Personality Attitude Style - Then have a link to a YouTube video and post that - it is on YouTube (ie - public) wear civilian clothes and have someone off camera ask you questions as if it were a dating video (that way if anybody in real life sees it you can tell them you were thinking about doing internet dating and you wanted to be able to send someone to see it) DONT MAKE A SEX VIDEO OR EROTICA VIDEO THAT IS FOR YOUR PORFILE PHOTOS THIS IS ABOUT PERSONALITY, ATTITUDE, STYLE. So, have them ask you dating type questions that you would be comfortable to see in public. What's your best feature? Are you a good Kisser? Why? Your Favorite Movies? What do you like to do on a date? that answers don't matter the questions don't matter - what we are after is personality - I can tell you after 5 minutes of video I know more about you than if I read 100 reviews - personality wise anyways - TRUST ME JUST DO IT!
Reviews - it is already part of your profile so if you are lazy or too busy just count on us to find them - if you want to communicate you are an above average provider I would find some good reviews and offer 3 or 4 hyperlinks to take me straight to them of hyper link to your review page.
Contact - complete and detailed - Email: include 2 references or P411 with 2 okays (show me what you want me to send) tell me how long to expect for and answer... Text (what to send) ... phone ... can I call you (details) you know we are idiots - and speed of response is what we are looking for from you so the faster the better
Location: Availability - outcall list everywhere you will go ... incall where are you located generally or do you multiple notels in areas ... hour of service are you 24 / 7? 8 am to 5 pm, after 5pm only etc.
MISC - you may want to list NBA or Newbie Friendly or Non Smoker or what ever here but you already have tons of info so I would just add that to the headline.

and if I were you I would write all this up and save it and then when ever you want to place an ad just pull it up add your new selfie and fix any changed info resave and post the ad. Play with your specials and see the responses you get ... try an ad with just a strong BNG offer ... try an ad with a deeply discounted over night reg. $2000 this week $800 ... you might find that you can book 5 overnights for $800 easier than 80 BNG's for $100 - and it is the same money ... if you are not normally MSOG or you up charge for MSOG try offer MSOG for the no MSOG rate ... once you have a solid quality ad ... all you really have to do is play with different offers to see which brings you the business you want.


Damn ... if I was a pimp my hoes would be rich! Originally Posted by 5T3V3

OUTSTANDING sir!!!

Hopefully other providers, especially those who may be new or not getting much business see this and take heed.

I see you still missed the sarcasm in that... smh keep trying you may understand one day....

let me breAk it down in tard language... What is the picture of your handle? now who is really not the expert in sarcasm... Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Sweet heart .... he is a donkey D O N K E Y ... I guess I really need to pull out my winky and show you the difference

But you gotta love a woman with a snappy come back - well as long as your winky is in her mouth when she is making it!

Wow. Thank you for a detailed answer and useful tips. This should be a sticky! Originally Posted by anita

I promise --- if you follow this prescription --- you will have more "sticky" than you can handle

Damnit ... I had my money on a "dumbass" comment. Damn. Just damn. Originally Posted by pyramider

Mine was on " two words donkey... Shut up "... ( just following the theme)

HB

Sweet heart .... he is a donkey D O N K E Y ... I guess I really need to pull out my winky and show you the difference

But you gotta love a woman with a snappy come back - well as long as your winky is in her mouth when she is making it! Originally Posted by 5T3V3

You really dont get it do you smfh thats sad... Pulling out your winky has nothing to do with what im talking about.... just let it go smh

I utilize several different search patterns.

Obviously, I do frequently check the newcomers welcome section, and also scan the ad forum (handle by handle) and my constantly reliable fall back is the Indy review section. Where I am looking for reviewers first and the providers.

Quite often I click on certain reviewer handles so I can make better choices, and somewhat less frequently, other reviewer handles to determine who I probably will avoid.

Primo on my list of "to sees" are ladies I may have met in person at socials. Hey, with 2 events a month in SA and at least one a month (this summer more like 1.5) in Austin, I will be enjoying the primes.

Wish we had M & G here in Houston...UGH!

To really sum it up ... you have learned:
90% of the guys don't give a shit about your cute Name or your cute Headline.
50% of us click every ad.
40% of use something other than Name or Headline.
And it should be obvious to you that none of those "other" choosers give a shit about number of views. So, there has to something about the Name or the Headline that makes them NOT click on it or choose to skip it!

So, 40% of us don't click on every ad, but as I stated I do in my earlier comments: skip certain ads because I already know those providers aren't for me - in my case ladies that I know have d+ breasts, because I have noted their names from previous searches. Likewise, a percentage of these 40% "other" choosers SKIP your ad because something in the headline DOESN'T meet a criteria - ie - $80 BNG CBJ - would get a skip from me because I want a BBBJ. So, while I know you were trying to find out what magic words you can put in your ad to make them impossible to skip, what you really found out was your name and headline are more likely to cause someone to skip you than to click on you.

Next if you read the comments that really didn't pertain directly to your question - again these guys have to be in the 90% group - because if they were clicking on ads because of a Name or Headline they would have already answered your question and wouldn't have felt the need to elaborate. What they were telling you is that they are ignoring the Name and Headline and something inside or past that point (which was really where your question ended) is where the decision making happens.
SO 90% of us guys click on ads without much processing
the processing happens on the inside or past the name and headline stage.

SO I WENT BACK AND COMPILED WHAT WE ALL SAID TO THIS POINT:

15 - 26% Visual Appeal - Photos - Pictures

Many were careful to point out beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so we are all looking for different things. The timeliness of photos was mentioned several times - ie - new photos, current photos, accurate photos

11 - 19% Activity Match - Services provided

Again, we were all careful to point out we each have "deal breakers" and specific services we look for from providers, we each just want to know you match our list

9 - 16% Rate - Price - Special

Everyone was quick to point out that they were looking to see if you fit our budget and everyone has a different price point

7 - 12% Personality - Attitude - Style

This seems to be a combination of reviews, comment of posts, how you right your ad text and profile (again all past Name and Headline at this point) IMHO an interview style video is the best way to convey personality. I am not talking about a sex video or erotica video (which is what most have if there is a video) Google - Porn Star Interview and you will see what will work best - hell keep your clothes on your pictures should already tell me what you look like naked.

7 - 12% Reviews - Quality of Service - Reputation

All this pretty much comes from the reviews section. Seriously, just want to know you deliver what you promise most of the time.

2 - 4% Ease of Contact

I lumped together two things here 1) speed of contact and 2) ease of contact, so are you likely to get back to us quickly and the multiple choices of ways to contact you coupled with easily finding your contact information listed in multiple places and consistent information.

2 - 4% Location
1 - 2% Availability

Could have lumped these together as scheduling they all were kind of saying the same thing are you close to where I need to see you and are your times fitting my times.

1 - 2% Smoking Preference
1 - 2% Newbie Friendly
1 - 2% Black Friendly

So, we have answered your question you just needed to do a little data mining to see the answer - I guess you could try and write a perfect headline - which is going to be really hard because Services and Rates are hit and miss from guy to guy and so a guy's click for one service leads to a skip for another guy and you only have so much space on a headline to describe Personality, Location options and rest:

Current New Photos - Complete Landry list for services and prices... - Detailed Personality Description - Well Reviewed - w/ multiple easy to find contact options and fast response to initial contact - Complete location list and detailed availability times - that is Non-smoking and Black and Newbie Friendly! Call NOW!!!

OR you could hear what we are all saying and trying so hard to tell you and that is 90% of us blow past the Name and the Headline ... SO ... use the above list as a template to "how to write a great ad" - since it is too hard to put everything in the headline and omissions of information and limiting information lead to Skipping of the ad by 40% of us

SO HOW WOULD I DO IT WITH 25 YEARS OF ADVERTISING EXPERIENCE - GALD YOU ASKED

HEADLINE: INSIDE --- New Picture & Video - Detail of Services w/ Special Rates - Highly reviewed - Non smoking - Newbie Friendly - Black 35+ OK - Fast Scheduling

Visual - Now once inside on the ad page go out to your car and take a selfie like you have already done 100 times, then date it and post it on your ad first thing.
Activity Match, Rate and Price - Now list all your services in alphabetize
BBBJNQNS - CFS - no anal - DATY - DATO - no TUHA - no BBFS - INCALL - OUTCALL- no FIV - DFK - LFK - HJ - FBSM - ETC ... <<< in this format
[(make it a detailed list if you do do it say so if you don't do it say so - no pricing in this part- we need to be able to scan quickly and make sure what we want is on the menu) or put a detailed list in your profile text and say list of services (see Profile) or copy what you already have listed in your profile here (best option because you have it BOTH places and you are making it easy for us)]
then list detailed time periods and pricing - 30 min $150 - 1 hr $250 - 3 hr $300 ($200 off) make sure 2 or 3 or 4 are highlighted as specials or discounted pricing. Make this part a table. add extras here like Anal +50 MSOG +50 Outcall +25 [side note - if your idea of MSOG is one extra pop than I would say MSOG +50 per shot]
Personality Attitude Style - Then have a link to a YouTube video and post that - it is on YouTube (ie - public) wear civilian clothes and have someone off camera ask you questions as if it were a dating video (that way if anybody in real life sees it you can tell them you were thinking about doing internet dating and you wanted to be able to send someone to see it) DONT MAKE A SEX VIDEO OR EROTICA VIDEO THAT IS FOR YOUR PORFILE PHOTOS THIS IS ABOUT PERSONALITY, ATTITUDE, STYLE. So, have them ask you dating type questions that you would be comfortable to see in public. What's your best feature? Are you a good Kisser? Why? Your Favorite Movies? What do you like to do on a date? that answers don't matter the questions don't matter - what we are after is personality - I can tell you after 5 minutes of video I know more about you than if I read 100 reviews - personality wise anyways - TRUST ME JUST DO IT!
Reviews - it is already part of your profile so if you are lazy or too busy just count on us to find them - if you want to communicate you are an above average provider I would find some good reviews and offer 3 or 4 hyperlinks to take me straight to them of hyper link to your review page.
Contact - complete and detailed - Email: include 2 references or P411 with 2 okays (show me what you want me to send) tell me how long to expect for and answer... Text (what to send) ... phone ... can I call you (details) you know we are idiots - and speed of response is what we are looking for from you so the faster the better
Location: Availability - outcall list everywhere you will go ... incall where are you located generally or do you multiple notels in areas ... hour of service are you 24 / 7? 8 am to 5 pm, after 5pm only etc.
MISC - you may want to list NBA or Newbie Friendly or Non Smoker or what ever here but you already have tons of info so I would just add that to the headline.

and if I were you I would write all this up and save it and then when ever you want to place an ad just pull it up add your new selfie and fix any changed info resave and post the ad. Play with your specials and see the responses you get ... try an ad with just a strong BNG offer ... try an ad with a deeply discounted over night reg. $2000 this week $800 ... you might find that you can book 5 overnights for $800 easier than 80 BNG's for $100 - and it is the same money ... if you are not normally MSOG or you up charge for MSOG try offer MSOG for the no MSOG rate ... once you have a solid quality ad ... all you really have to do is play with different offers to see which brings you the business you want.
Originally Posted by 5T3V3

Excellent breakdown (and post!)

Now we know what we should include & prioritize.

Just make sure you get your commission when you see the bitchez using it!
lol!

It must be nice to have such a vast selection to choose from.

It seems we have very few gals that actually live here .

Activities -reviews- price-reviews-activities

Looks

Excellent breakdown (and post!)

Now we know what we should include & prioritize.

Just make sure you get your commission when you see the bitchez using it!
lol! Originally Posted by FoxyNC

no commission necessary - Cyndi asked the question, the community answered it and all I did was organize the findings into something that is hopefully usable, because my belief is that every girl here has a unique something that will attract a unique group of guys. You will never be able to appeal to every guy, so stop trying to be everything to every one. The best way to get the best clients for YOU is to tell us who YOU are, show us how you REALLY look, explain to us exactly what you will do, and tell us exactly what we need to do to be able to see you, and we will weed ourselves out for you ... and the ones left will love your company and write rave reviews about you and brag about what you did to and for them, because they got exactly what they wanted. When you try to be something your not --- that is where things get messed up! Think of it like this ladies ... if YOU are expecting a 30 year old good looking stud of a guy and a 52 year old bald pimply fat man shows ... things aren't going to go very well ... are they? And yet, if you chose that fat man things would go far different right?.

The more success you ladies have the better the quality of the provider that is attracted to the business and the better choices I have when it comes to play time. After 20 years of hobbying, I can truly say the quality has never been better. I have seen many reach their goals and retire and we remain friends to this day. And while for personal reasons I would love to see rates stay low and affordable, I would happily pay more as long as those higher rates allowed me to find higher quality providers, and improve the overall honesty and integrity of the profession --- which I think it generally has. I wish everyone that chooses this profession happy times and great success and I would hope they wish the same for me.