Yikes! Miss handling of classified info is rather a big deal.
I agree, it is a big deal but "intent" seems to be built into our code of justice. Now some of us might say it doesn't matter, the law is the law while others take intent into consideration. That's why Donald Trump Jr. isn't in jail right now because as sure as I'm sitting here typing this, he violated the statute that we have discussed her many times that says you can not solicit something of value which can be defined as "information" from a foreign entity to be used in a political campaign.
Yes, I think Hillary did that to, so if Jr. gets a pass, then Hillary gets a pass UNLESS there was different intent. I don't think Jr. knew the law and apparently Mueller decided the same thing. I think Hillary probably did know the law but can that be proven in a court of law? Recently the DOJ dropped the case against McCabe who we know lied to the FBI but apparently Barr thought the case was weak combined with intent to do harm or not and he was absolved of the charge, so far.
Do we think Hillary intended to do harm by collaborating with a foreign government? I haven't seen the evidence that she did. Did she mis-handle the classified information for personal gain? I haven't seen that proof. Did she mis-handle it because she was to lazy to follow the rules thinking the rules just didn't apply to her? I think most likely. She should have been punished, there is no doubt in my mind about that because as you say it was classified information and a price should be paid for that. Barring proof she did it to hurt the US government and it's people, I think that punishment should be something other than jail time. I understand why you and others might feel differently.
Kinda why there are strenuously regulated levels of classification and training classes on it and affidavits signed by people granted access. It also has well defined guidelines and penalties. What's the proposal here? Just say bad kitty?
Nope, there should have been a price to pay, I just don't think jail was that price.
People die because of miss handling of classified info. Hola, habla Benghazi? Notwithstanding what costs could be associated to that are almost incalculable.
Yes, they do and that would absolutely up the ante. So is there any proof that what Hillary did caused the death of our Special Operators visa vie what she did on her phone and computer? I haven't seen that evidence, but her actions outside of her handling some classified information might very well have by having those people where they probably shouldn't have been, why they were there, was action to save them derelict? Those would be things to consider but if the classified information in question had nothing to do with those decisions and I don't know if they did or didn't, that would be up to the DOJ to decide
"paranoia of persons knowing her business". You mean like her superiors, aka the boss, and the American public writ large? It wasn't 'her' business. It was the business of America. If she wanted to have a yahoo or gmail account to trade recipes, so what. Nobody cares how wide her lard-ass is. But transmitting and backing up classified documents from a non-secured server to a public Yahoo account is ludicrous and endangering to the country. Side note: You are aware that the entire Yahoo database of accounts was hacked in that time frame. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
I hear yeah. I think, just an opinion, that after decades of people using information against her, she was so paranoid, she didn't want anybody using the decisions she was making as political fodder against her. I'm not excusing what she did, like I said, I think she should have been punished but I have not seen any evidence that she did this for monetary gain ( but her foundation sure as hell did ) or to intentionally hurt the country as in getting even with somebody that had done her wrong. Those would easily be seen as prosecutable.
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