Still not safe, still not effective.

no matter how ya look at it, taint no proof ether way.

thank you FDA and CDC for hiding whatever the truth is Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

Do I REALLY have to cite once again the Covid hospitalization and death rates of vaccinated versus unvaccinated people? Both in the U.S and worldwide?

Do I REALLY have to cite once again the Covid hospitalization and death rates of vaccinated versus unvaccinated people? Both in the U.S and worldwide? Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

its NOT . Hospitals in NYS lie more than than county ans state medical examiners

been to many Death by C19, NOT the bus, car, bullet ect that hit him
In NYS guy dead, check 1st if had C19 or not, and if had the shot or not. Then rule on what killed him, The bus that ran over is not a factor

its NOT . Hospitals in NYS lie more than than county ans state medical examiners

been to many Death by C19, NOT the bus, car, bullet ect that hit him
In NYS guy dead, check 1st if had C19 or not, and if had the shot or not. Then rule on what killed him, The bus that ran over is not a factor Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

not to mention how many covid deaths are actually flu/pneumonia deaths.

Certainly that's a lot of people but the reality is not everyone contracted Covid and the public will never know the real numbers of those who contracted covid and the numbers of death. The reason is, the general public has been lied to on every aspect of this Pandemic. Cut the shit about the Government they aren't in the business of saving you from anything. In other words they don't give a shit. Originally Posted by Levianon17

They do give a shit about tax payers, dead people can't pay taxes.

warp speed smhropp speed... that is just bullshit marketing from the orange turd. Wonder how long it took to come up with that warp speed bullshit. Any other president would have done something, and probably way better than trump could even imagine. Think any other president would just say "covid, hmm, fuck it"??? What should have happened by any other president is squash the problem before it became a big problem. Any other president probably would have only lost 100k people, maybe not even that many. Trump in no way "saved" 2 million plus lives.

not to mention how many covid deaths are actually flu/pneumonia deaths. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

I recently had cold symptoms and went to a clinic. Had several precautionary tests done.

THERE ARE 2 DIFFERENT TESTS FOR FLU AND COVID. THERE IS NO POSSIBIOLITY OF MISTAKING DEATHS CAUSED BY FLU AND DEATHS CAUSED BY COVID.

its NOT . Hospitals in NYS lie more than than county ans state medical examiners

been to many Death by C19, NOT the bus, car, bullet ect that hit him
In NYS guy dead, check 1st if had C19 or not, and if had the shot or not. Then rule on what killed him, The bus that ran over is not a factor Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

As in most cases with your statement, someone or some institution must be lying for you to be correct. And in every instance you are wrong.

As in most cases with your statement, someone or some institution must be lying for you to be correct. And in every instance you are wrong. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

DUH

I live in NYS. Cooking the books to fit there agenda is HIGH
I bet not the only state
FDA and CDC deleted pages of how why how C16 shot made never passed tests
more cooking
there is no place that has uncooked figures as ifs all based on local and state level and what the FDA and CDC not saying after cooking books

Then there’s nothing you’ll believe, admit to believing or consider.

Why continue to argue?

They do give a shit about tax payers, dead people can't pay taxes. Originally Posted by royamcr

True dead people don't pay taxes, but somehow they are able to vote, lol.

not to mention how many covid deaths are actually flu/pneumonia deaths. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

All of them.

True dead people don't pay taxes, but somehow they are able to vote, lol. Originally Posted by Levianon17

NYS the only state that has a one shot death tax????
to die is not free unless you had nothing

Then there’s nothing you’ll believe, admit to believing or consider.

Why continue to argue? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

I believe the C19 shot is more deadly than C19

The Purchasing agreement that Pfizer was forcing nations to sign has been leaked. (We've heard bits of this before). This is the example that South Africa signed.

Purchaser acknowledges that the vaccine and materials related to the vaccine, and there are components and constituent materials, are being rapidly developed due to the emergency circumstances of the COVID-19 pandemic and will continue to be studied after provision of the vaccine to purchaser under the agreement. Purchaser further acknowledges that the long-term effects and efficacy of the vaccine are not currently known and that there may be adverse effects of the vaccine that are not currently known. Further, to the extent applicable, purchaser acknowledges that the product shall not be serialized.

So when they were telling you it was all good, they were LEGALLY binding contracts stating the opposite.

What I find interesting is that Pfizer prohibited serialization of the product. That's because they DIDN"T want traceability. I've worked in pharma related industries (MGF QA) and even worked with start ups making PCR tests. Pfizer DID NOT WANT lot based and serialization traceability which is a 180 opposite for what they were doing (exerimental mRNA shots). In fact they make sure that single lots do not get sent to a single state/province so that lot clustered side effects are more difficult to find. (If one lot went to Philly and Philly experiences an uptick in cancer they WANT that harder to ID)

I've also read that there is a potential to get around the producer liability exclusions due to the experimental nature of the clot shots based on the fact that it appears that there were components in the shots that were not disclosed. There is still some uncertainty on this as the vials that were tested by independent labs were not obtained formally. In other words, Pfizer won't provide samples.. and those that have been tested were pulled from the pipeline (more likely to be representative) but the argument then is that their chain of custody is suspect.

Regardless, the wall gets chipped away at slowly but surely.