It could be you...

Just like Hellery did...might as well list all the candidates...just that extreme socialist ideology has never won any Presidential election...and you seem to thing this will be a first.
Why the hell do you think they now label themselves "progressive"...or "democratic socialist"...as some how that is different then just plain socialist! Originally Posted by bb1961

Again, Democrats run the gamut from far left to barely left of center. Obama was in office for 8 years and did little to move this country to the left. You are right in saying that extreme socialist ideology has never won a Presidential election. Biden is nowhere near an extreme socialist ideology. Sanders is close and I do not "feel the Bern" as the saying goes. You asked which Democrats I thought could beat Trump and those 3 head my list. Does not necessarily mean I support them all.

Then I think it should be that both did "just enough" to not serve but Trump didn't promise to serve and then renege on the promise. Sadly, a lot of people pulled strings but that bald faced lie to the ROTC colonel is over the line. Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

If you want to split hairs, Clinton was the worst offender of the two.

I think you posted some random polls the other day. You should take a look at the Real Clear Politics web site. Just google Real Clear Politics, Trump, and the name of any Democratic opponent, and it'll give you a list for all polls for that head to head match up.

For example, google Harris and Trump. Of the 3 general election polls, Harris won 2, Trump won one.

Do the same for Biden. There have been 3 polls, for which Biden has winning margins of 7 to 12 percentage points.

For Sanders versus Trump, there have been 6 polls, and Sanders won all with margins of 4 to 15 percentage points.

I reckon your OPINION is well supported by the polls, at least for Biden and Sanders.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rris-6252.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6247.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ders-5565.html

bb1961, it gives me no great joy to say this. Sanders scares the shit out of me, and the fact that he's leading Trump by an average of 10.4 percentage points scares me even more. Originally Posted by Tiny

I find this statement to of significant importance:

"Let us end by remembering — and I cannot emphasize this enough — how long we have to go. Not only in news cycles and Twitter rants, but for the economy. We are just entering the period that will likely prove decisive in how American voters evaluate Trump at the end of his term. The 2020 campaign is, in every meaningful sense, only just beginning."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-election-odds



Very interesting article in its entirety. But VOX is left-leaning.

He sounded like Mussolini in his declaration of self exoneration. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

That nails it!

Based on what you think trumpy "sounded like" he must be guilty as fuck!

Was he speaking Italian?