Conservatives are literally killing us

All you're doing is buying into a big lie. Besides how does a criminal and liar leave behind a surplus.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

That's your reasoning? So in your view, someone is 100 percent good or 100 percent bad?

That's your reasoning? So in your view, someone is 100 percent good or 100 percent bad? Originally Posted by WombRaider

People are basically corrupt. Bill Clinton was the poster child for that. Get your head out of your ass. You must be 100% delusional if you think there was a surplus that was debunked a long time ago.

Jim

Newsflash. I've read them. I don't give a shit. I couldn't care less. You act as if no one ever said it before he did. By and large, Americans are ignorant. I mean, look at you. Originally Posted by WombRaider

So, it's ok for leaders to lie to the people about legislation and policy. Since the government knows better than us, they can do what they want without our informed consent. How can a country like that dare to call itself a "free" country?

So, it's ok for leaders to lie to the people about legislation and policy. Since the government knows better than us, they can do what they want without our informed consent. How can a country like that dare to call itself a "free" country? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Hello cog please return back to earth - you dumb ass this is politics governments lie all the time if you are that naive to think governments don't lie or never have than you have been living in fantasy land. As long as the lie doesn't hurt the good of the people than what difference does it make. I am totally fine at whatever Obama wants to do even if he decided to disclose it from Americans as long as we are not harmed.
Where do you get off thinking that humans never lie - when you were young and dumb like when you were 5 years old I am pretty sure you asked mommy where do babies come from and she told you a stork drops them off - would you say yourotjer was a liar - yes in a sense but the bigger picture is that there are some things that Americans don't need to know - if you think Americans should know everything would it be acceptable for Americans to know where all of our nukes are hidden or the codes to launch the nukes?
You guys are being irrational to think you somehow as an American citizen need to know everything the government does - you are wrong pal.

Hello cog please return back to earth - you dumb ass this is politics governments lie all the time if you are that naive to think governments don't lie or never have than you have been living in fantasy land. As long as the lie doesn't hurt the good of the people than what difference does it make. I am totally fine at whatever Obama wants to do even if he decided to disclose it from Americans as long as we are not harmed.
Where do you get off thinking that humans never lie - when you were young and dumb like when you were 5 years old I am pretty sure you asked mommy where do babies come from and she told you a stork drops them off - would you say yourotjer was a liar - yes in a sense but the bigger picture is that there are some things that Americans don't need to know - if you think Americans should know everything would it be acceptable for Americans to know where all of our nukes are hidden or the codes to launch the nukes?
You guys are being irrational to think you somehow as an American citizen need to know everything the government does - you are wrong pal. Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Then you agree that we no longer have representative government or a free country. It's odd that a God Fearing Christian will defend and practice both lying and whoremongering.


Do they lie? Yes. Is it ok for them to lie? No.

Then you agree that we no longer have representative government or a free country. It's odd that a God Fearing Christian will defend and practice both lying and whoremongering.


Do they lie? Yes. Is it ok for them to lie? No. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

We never had representative government - where have you been all your life? You are really delusional sir. Do you lie ? Yes you do - but you expect government officials to be saints? He who is without sin cast the first stone? Are you tossing any stones? It sickens me COG that you come on these boards and want to call out politicians and criticize them for lies yet you are on a hooker board seeing whores? Yeah I am on this board as well but I have asked God to forgive my sins and I admit I have sinned in the past but you on the other hand act as if you are perfect and that makes me sick to my stomach.

What kind of government were we founded to be? One where we elect liars and corrupt people, and then lay back and accept their dishonesty like you use whores and expect God to forgive you over and over again? Were we never a government "of the people, by the people and for the people"? You support dishonest leaders? Did you support GW Bush when he lied to us? Did you support Reagan when he lied to us? Was it ok for them, too?

You are a sad person. You expect me to just accept government lies. Not to do so, in your eyes, makes me unfit to be an American. Drive by a National Cemetery. Look at the headstones. Did all those men and women die so we could be free to accept corruption? So our leaders could lie to us with impunity? Is that what their deaths stand for?


Then, because I point out your Christian hypocrisy, you try to tell me how to be a Christian. Sickening. An open, unrepentant sinner proclaiming the Gospel of Christ. I would not follow your God on a bet. Not because of Him, but because I don't want to be counted among God Fearing Christians who don't know the meaning of the words. Have you witnessed to anyone lately? Have you said to them, as Paul did, "Follow me, as I follow Christ"? Take them to the brothel, then ask forgiveness, then go back. It doesn't work that way.


In short, by traditional definitions, you are neither Christian, nor American.

So, it's ok for leaders to lie to the people about legislation and policy. Since the government knows better than us, they can do what they want without our informed consent. How can a country like that dare to call itself a "free" country? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

We elect them to represent us. If you want a different form of government, you should do something about that. We aren't free. What do you want?

What kind of government were we founded to be? One where we elect liars and corrupt people, and then lay back and accept their dishonesty like you use whores and expect God to forgive you over and over again? Were we never a government "of the people, by the people and for the people"? You support dishonest leaders? Did you support GW Bush when he lied to us? Did you support Reagan when he lied to us? Was it ok for them, too?

You are a sad person. You expect me to just accept government lies. Not to do so, in your eyes, makes me unfit to be an American. Drive by a National Cemetery. Look at the headstones. Did all those men and women die so we could be free to accept corruption? So our leaders could lie to us with impunity? Is that what their deaths stand for?


Then, because I point out your Christian hypocrisy, you try to tell me how to be a Christian. Sickening. An open, unrepentant sinner proclaiming the Gospel of Christ. I would not follow your God on a bet. Not because of Him, but because I don't want to be counted among God Fearing Christians who don't know the meaning of the words. Have you witnessed to anyone lately? Have you said to them, as Paul did, "Follow me, as I follow Christ"? Take them to the brothel, then ask forgiveness, then go back. It doesn't work that way.


In short, by traditional definitions, you are neither Christian, nor American. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I don't want government lies either, but neither you or I can do one iota about it. It will take enough people to think that way, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

We elect them to represent us. If you want a different form of government, you should do something about that. We aren't free. What do you want? Originally Posted by WombRaider

You're ok with that?

You're ok with that? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

There it is. Some more bitching and moaning from our resident bitch-moaner aka bitch-tits.

Hey, cum-guzzler do you have anything substantive to offer?

You bang your idealism drum in every single thread without offering any viable solutions FOR ANYTHING. What good does that do?

And no, voting for an independent along with your 5 butt buddies does not count as a solution.

You're ok with that? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

There it is. Some more bitching and moaning from our resident bitch-moaner aka bitch-tits.

Hey, cum-guzzler do you have anything substantive to offer?

You bang your idealism drum in every single thread without offering any viable solutions FOR ANYTHING. What good does that do?

And no, voting for an independent along with your 5 butt buddies does not count as a solution. Originally Posted by shanm

He's not wrong. You do preach idealism from the rooftops, but rarely if ever offer substantive solutions. Am I ok with being lied to? Am I ok with the corruption? Of course not. I also know that whinging and pissing on a hooker board isn't going to do shit. Locally is where you can have the most direct influence. At least that way you get to live in a place that you feel like you have some control over, however indirect.

He's also not wrong about you and your 5 butt buddies. I'd be ok with giving Bernie a chance, but he's got as much chance as a snowball in hades. It is what it is. It's a behemoth and to actually get it to stop is nothing short of a herculean task.

Bitch tits has a nice ring to it. Cum-guzzling bitch tits. Yeah. I like it.

Resistance may be futile, but supporting them is suicide. If you think this is the only place I'm vocal, you are wrong. I work pretty hard promoting freedom and personal responsibility away from here. I enjoy this forum because it helps me see the massive ignorance out there. You guys are cartoon characters. Most of the Statists I meet out here are not anywhere as stupid as you folks are. They're civil, and capable of conversation. Not all, of course, but a great many.

Resistance may be futile, but supporting them is suicide. If you think this is the only place I'm vocal, you are wrong. I work pretty hard promoting freedom and personal responsibility away from here. I enjoy this forum because it helps me see the massive ignorance out there. You guys are cartoon characters. Most of the Statists I meet out here are not anywhere as stupid as you folks are. They're civil, and capable of conversation. Not all, of course, but a great many. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Here's a little bit of news for you; nobody gets out of life alive. As for this forum, do you think people actually converse this way in reality? Do you think IB Bitch Tits goes around calling people odumbo gruberized minions? This is all bullshit. I'm civil in the real world. Civility doesn't pay in this forum, however.

31-4 says you are full of shit, wormrider.