Having said that, this thread is about clock-watchers and signs that point to a provider who is one/acts like one. For me, the biggest factor is attitude.
Originally Posted by Cpalmson
Exactly, this was never intended to be about starting times, ending times, or other interpretations of what constitutes a session, although the point about "stoppage" has some merit in this regard, because often, but not always, it is the same ladies that are late getting ready for an incall appointment or arriving late at an outcall appointment, get several phone calls or even worse actually stop to have a conversations or several exchanges of texting, that also will be the most vehement clockwatcher. I think this may have more to do with general manners, time management in all aspects of life, than actually a provider specific issue.
The conversation only drifted into that when the thread was hijacked by a young lady (emphasis on young, I have been active in the hobby longer than she has been on the planet) attacking people that posted because she assumed this thread, perhaps just from the title, was about gents looking to get one over on a provider and regularly convert a normal session into an extended session for free.
Somehow this thread seems to have evolved from "ClockWatching" to complaining about guys that overstay their welcome.
It is real simple: when it is time to leave; leave. At a very minimum, acknowledge the session is over or nearly over. If you stay longer at least everyone is on the same page.
Originally Posted by atlcomedy
Well stated, as always, ATL.
I agree with Jordan. It may seem that Brittany is being rude, but. . .
Originally Posted by China Doll
No, she was pretty much very rude and attacked several gents and even a few providers.
. . .I think that she, the others, and I perceive your expectations as inconsiderate. . .
I am not sure which expectations you are speaking of. You mean the one that this thread started with in which many gents expressed that we love a provider that can direct a session like a symphony and manage to magically provide a perfect session, that is on time and seamless, and not only does she not physically look at the clock, she can make 60 minutes (or longer if that was what was booked and paid for) seem like an eternity even though it wasn't?
This is not a dating site.
Originally Posted by caroline!
Amen!
I already have a girlfriend and a wife.
It should never be assumed that a gent hobbies because he can't get laid for free.
While that may be true sometimes, most seasoned hobbyists will tell you that they are looking for a consummate professional that can do things that civilian women either can not do, or will not do.
Speaking for myself, I am here to buy a service, specifically I am here to buy a fantasy, and nothing will kill that fantasy quicker than actually putting an egg timer on the night stand (yes I have seen that done) or creating an atmosphere where there might as well be an egg timer on the nightstand. This is a site designed to enhance the hobby experience, learn from folks that have been around longer than you and made all the mistakes you can avoid if you listen to what they have to say. Most importantly it is a site to network, research, and advertise.
In fact, ladies should be mindful, that like it or not everything you post is an advertisement. It isn't that folks care about disagreements, they care HOW YOU GO ABOUT DISAGREEING.
Wanna spend your time as me playing Dr. Phil...
He is not as qualified as most folks think, and chances are most providers are not either, unless they have a few initials after their name that was the result of both academic training and clinical experience. I have met one. She was awesome, but retired from the hobby now, but she still has her clinical practice running. Since you bring it up by the way, her rates for couch time are lower than BCD time. I suppose you are right though, there are probably many gents out there that want mental therapy as well as bedroom play, in whatever form that takes, but given that most psychologists don't charge as much as a provider, why do they do that? Not even the lady I was talking about above could take Humanna or Anthem when she was offering both services.
. . .that's fine but when time is up, this director says, "CUT!" But I like what a provider once told a client who was gossiping about another provider... "you do know you're on the clock!" This shit isn't rocket scientist.
That would pretty much fit my description as clock watching. Not because of the measured time, but rather because of how the session was delivered. That may sound cute to you, but if the session was conducted in that way, and she actually said that aloud. . .not only would I not return, it would result in a pretty negative review. I am only speaking for myself, but perhaps other gents will chime in and disagree.
If a gent is being a "Chatty Cathy" there are far more subtle ways to redirect him than to mention time. I am sure their are plenty of ladies that can share tips on how to take charge of a session artfully; that would be wonderful, and what this thread was designed to do:
How can you conduct a session and be mindful of time, without appearing to be mindful of time?
How can you manage a session without appearing to manage the session?
The best sessions are when you get back to your car, or she leaves your outcall and you glance at your watch or cell phone for the first time and realize it felt like over two hours, but only 58 minutes passed. That just happened to me this morning with a lady. In fact, rather than writing replies to all the stings in this thread, I should get to working on the awesome review she deserves.
hopefully this thread has helped some of you guys out!
Originally Posted by dirty diana
It has. I now have a better feeling for when I travel outside of my region who to avoid, and who I should put on my "must see list" based on their responses. . .as much based on the content as the way they stated their position.
I also think it is helpful for newer gents to clearly understand the time and fee structures are rigid. I am glad some of the providers explained this better than others, but even those that did not explain it well, gave some insight into their character and personality.
I still say the best quote on here was:
"Time spent is much like a tip. It is never expected, but always appreciated."
If for whatever reason, a session begins to go over, the best providers handle it smoothly and get it back on track without appearing to do so. If a gent has gone over a few minutes over and it was because of him, and not something the provider did (phone interuptions etc) or didn't do (ready and on time) then a tip may be in order. In fact, if the session was done artfully a tip could be in order, because it is looking like such sessions may become increasingly rare as the market is flooded with younger providers that seem to have a reluctance to learn from the ladies that have been doing this for a while successfully and gracefully.
