Oh, geez! Austin following San Francisco and LA.

That’s not all TEXAS has legalized.

who is president YR it sure isn't Hillary
at you YR Originally Posted by Hotrod511

Is that all you got?

Of course.

Don’t forget “No collusion. no obstruction!” Or the ever popular “Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!”

Tedious.

Yeah Liberalism is the wave of the future...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3clRraH77M

You keep hanging your had on the left wing nuts who populate the cesspools of the far SW and far NE. A majority of the states are far right leaning as to the 30 of 50 states went for Trump.

With the field of clowns running as far left as to make marx blush...that should be the litmus test to show you a repeat of the trouncing the far left nominees took in 72' & 84'.
I don't care what you are ANYONE else says liberalism doesn't sell in this country on a national level. Originally Posted by bb1961

We shall see. 4 of the last 7 presidential elections went Democratic. 2 of the last 6 presidents who ran for reelection lost (Bush and Carter. 4 won (Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama).
So incumbent presidents losing in reelections is hardly rare.

Will Trump win in 2020? Very possible. Trouncing? Won't happen. Didn't happen in 2016 and there is no state that voted for Clinton in 2016 that is likely to flip in 2020. Will be close. Closer than 2016 IMHO.

....there is no state that voted for Clinton in 2016 that is likely to flip in 2020. Will be close. Closer than 2016 IMHO. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The Clintons are not running in 2020.

A friend just told me, and I guess it is so: Texas has legalized firearms suppressors, and Gov Abbot has directed state law enforcement agencies to ignore Federal law regarding these silencers.

So thet must make Texas a "Suppressor Sanctuary State".

The principle is the same. One cannot be legal and not the other as well. Originally Posted by ICU 812

The most recent update to Texas suppressor law - which is superceded by Federal law controlling suppressors.




The National Firearms Act (NFA), 73rd Congress, Sess. 2, ch. 757, 48 Stat. 1236, enacted on June 26, 1934, currently codified as amended as I.R.C. ch. 53, is an Act of Congress in the United States that, in general, imposes a statutory excise tax on the manufacture and transfer of certain firearms and mandates the registration of those firearms. The Act was passed shortly after the repeal of Prohibition. The NFA is also referred to as Title II of the Federal firearms laws. The Gun Control Act of 1968 ("GCA") is Title I.
All transfers of ownership of registered NFA firearms must be done through the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (the "NFA registry").[2] The NFA also requires that the permanent transport of NFA firearms across state lines by the owner must be reported to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Temporary transports of some items, most notably suppressors, do not need to be reported.

Silencers are Not Prohibited Weapons in Texas


New Texas law, HB 1819, addresses key components regarding possession of a silencer.

In Texas, it is legal to possess a firearm sound suppressor, or silencer, if you meet the requirements set fourth under Texas law. HB 1819 does nothing to change this. What HB 1819 does do is ready the state for the possible change in federal silencer laws. Texas legislatures are hopeful that changes in federal law will make silencers available for purchase under the same conditions as one would purchase a firearm. HB 1819 prepares state law for this potential change at the federal level.
Currently, the Texas Penal Code requires that silencers are registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, & Explosives (BATF). This is because the federal National Firearm Act requires it. BATF registration is quite an ordeal. There is currently a nine-month approval process and $200 in fees that registration applicants face. However, the federal law referred to as “Hearing Protection Bill,” may change that. The bill would exempt silencers from ATF registration and remove silencers from the requirements of the National Firearm Act. This means that a person, under federal law, would not have to go through the lengthy and expensive BATF registration process.
If the Hearing Protection Bill is passed before the Texas Legislature meets again, people wanting to purchase silencers will not have to register with BATF under federal law, but would still have to register with BATF under Texas law or face a possible felony charge. That is the problem that HB 1819 addresses. If the law passes at the federal level, HB 1819 makes it so Texas would no longer require BATF registration as well.
HB 1819 only allows further ease of access to silencers. Again, note that silencers are currently legal in Texas as long as:

• You are not a convicted felon, not under investigation for family violence, and not diagnosed with a mental illness;
• You register the silencer in the National Firearms Registration; and
• Send a record of silencer purchase to ATF.

AUSTIN, Texas (May 10, 2019) – On Friday, the Texas House passed a bill that would decriminalize firearm sound suppressors under state law and end some state enforcement of federal laws regulating them in the Lone Star State.
Rep. Tom Oliverson (R-Houston), along with a bipartisan coalition of three cosponsors, introduced House Bill 2286 (HB2286) on Feb. 25. Under the proposed law, state agencies could not adopt any rule, order, ordinance, or policy to enforce a federal statute, order, rule, or regulation that purports to regulate a firearm suppressor that does not exist under the laws the state. It would also repeal a provision in current state law making it an offense to possess, manufacture, transport, repair or sell a firearm suppressor unless it is registered by the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.
On May 10, the House passed HB2286 by a 92-46 vote.
As originally introduced, the legislation would have effectively ended all state enforcement of federal laws relating to firearms sound suppressors, but an amendment on the House floor would allow law enforcement agents to enforce such laws “if the officer is cooperating with an agent of the federal government as a member of a task force.” This opens up a huge loophole. In effect, state and local law enforcement officers would continue to fully participate in the enforcement of “silencer” regulations. Joint federal-state task forces are the norm, not the exception.
The Senate should reconsider this amendment language.
Suppressors simply muffle the sound of a gun. They do not literally silence firearms. Nevertheless, the federal government heavily regulates silencers under the National Firearms Act. The feds charge a $200 tax on the purchase of the devices. Buying one also requires months-long waits after filing extensive paperwork with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
The repeal of state suppressor restrictions in Texas would not alter federal law, nor would it end federal enforcement, but it would remove a layer of law hindering access to these harmless devices. The widespread easing of suppressor regulation would subtly undermine federal efforts to unconstitutionally regulate firearms. As Texas activist Tom Glass put it, “It would not stop feds from attempting to enforce, but at least it would get Texas law right.”
As we’ve seen with marijuana and industrial hemp, a federal regulation becomes ineffective when states ignore it and pass laws encouraging the prohibited activity. Or when the state decriminalizes and people start ignoring the federal prohibition without any further state “permission” to do so.
Either way, the federal government lacks the enforcement power necessary to maintain its ban in such a climate, and people will increasingly take on the risk of federal sanctions if they know the state will not interfere. This increases when the state actively encourages “the market.”
Less restrictive state gun laws such as HB2286 can have a similar impact on federal gun laws. It will make it that much more difficult for the feds to enforce federal gun control, should the people defy it, and increase the likelihood that states with few limits will simply refuse to cooperate with future federal enforcement efforts.
State actions like HB2286 lower barriers for those wanting to the option of defending themselves with firearms and encourage a “gun-friendly” environment that would make federal efforts to limit firearms that much more difficult.


I am not sure if the Bill passed the Senate and was signed by Gov Abbott. In the absence of confirmation - I would assume Not.

Listening to a "Friend" on complex legal matters such as this could get one 5-20 years in Federal Prison if caught with an unregistered suppressor and convicted of the offense in Federal court.



The "Principle" regarding "sanctuaries" is absolute BS propagated by a deluded DPST.

No way are People and Supressors equivalent.

Unless You DPST's give apes and suppressors voting rights!!!!


My apologies - did not intend to hijack thread.

Don’t know who you’re talking about, when you say “you DPSTs,” but it looks like you’ve now crossed the line.

And who are you calling “apes?”

A cursory internet search would provide you with the status of all bills filed in the Legislature.

And you’re still misspelling it!

LOL!

why is owning a suppressor/silencer against the law?


it doesn't eliminate the sound of the gunshot sonic boom exit. something like 20% of the sound is reduced. its still loud, but not as loud to wake the dead.

I just got home and had to pass a few over bridges. The shits getting worse. I don't think the Peoples Republik
of Austin's city council realize how many homeless live here due their heads being stuck up their asses. The city council here is dumber then a box of rocks. SMH

Over bridges?

Over bridges? Originally Posted by matchingmole

Yes, she was driving over bridges and they were living under them. You’re welcome.

Good thing She didn't pass those under bridges...they are tunnels. Passing by over bridges is no problem...they don't move that fast

Good thing She didn't pass those under bridges...they are tunnels Originally Posted by matchingmole

Actually not true, there are 2 level bridges. We have one in Pittsburgh. Two lanes into town are underneath, two lanes on top going out of town. The homeless live under the inbound lanes. There’s room for you.

So in Trump English...that would be a double over past..........

why is owning a suppressor/silencer against the law?


it doesn't eliminate the sound of the gunshot sonic boom exit. something like 20% of the sound is reduced. its still loud, but not as loud to wake the dead. Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

DF - please read post above. Suppressors, like machine guns, are regulated by Federal law. It is legal to own a suppressor upon compliance with the and BATFE policies and procedures,

No dear. I'm not trying to win over the Trump haters. I'm not the jackass whisperer. So if you think it's an over pass or under pass - I don't really care.

So in Trump English...that would be a double over past.......... Originally Posted by matchingmole