Poll - If you have not received the exact address yet, do you actually have a legit/booked appointment? ...or not?

Heh...guys whining about getting NC/NS when they're the ones setting up the situation where they don't know the exact address beforehand...funny stuff... Originally Posted by Wakeup

No address = no appointment . Originally Posted by oilfieldscum

so how technical & granular do we want to get?
time is money and money is time. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

Lets cut through the bullshit and call it what it is. Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

So what I'm picking up here is there are some ladies who won't consider you as having an appointment until your dick is actually inside her. Good to know. Originally Posted by enderwiggin

No need for the semantics. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

seriously? that's some dumb shit typed right here.

. . . since addresses are already known? dumb bullshit Originally Posted by JustMeCLTXGG

The height of semantics and the law.

"My cocky IS

THIS big.

Only in this hobby does a simple word like"appointment" have so many interpretations, lol. Words have definitions and those definitions are not based upon opinion or any one person's special rules, lol. Definition says an appointment is an agreed upon meeting at a time and place. Not a time and address. Her in call or my outcall is a place. The doctor's office is a place even if you don't know address yet. Only here can we twist the language so much, lol.

Ah, stalker #2 following me from post to post. Nice to know nothings changed. Where are your normal 'broke ass DJ' comments? Finally give up on that lie?
Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

Poor D_J.


really...poor D_J.

so how technical & granular do we want to get? what happens if on 2 or 3 different occasions you setup an Outcall (day and time) with some of the sexiest providers the city has to offer; willing to pay $2-3k for 8-10hrs; so she schedules the day just for you and you tell her the location / hotel name but not the room #...then you cancel at the very last minute because no room # was given. What happens to the trick that does that even one time let alone repeatedly?

How do the providers view him given that she lost out on a lot of money that day?

time is money and money is time. Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

Well..

1) I wouldn't schedule an outcall and then stand a gal up.

2) If I had to cancel I would make some sort of restitution.

3) I wouldn't schedule a session for 8-10 hrs.

3) I'm not willing to part with 3 grand....for pussy anyways.

Just curious about the breakdown of johns vs. providers on the tally of "Yes" and "No" responses in the poll. GlobeSpotter, would it be easy to add the % johns and % providers next to each of the counts?

I'm not lincking up all the history of this nonsense....but here are some quotes from yesterday's NotYourOrdinary NCNS:









So what is it?

I call bullshit. If we've agreed to an appointment, we have an appointment....two way street.

It don't make a fuck difference if the exact address isn't agreed to yet.

Edit: as hate-able as Dorfy is,....I still thincks she's full of shit on this one.
Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

Heh.

In my opinion, if you confirm the appointment time on the day of, you have an appointment, exact address or not. Some don't give the address until a couple of hours before the time. Probably concerned about some stalker dude showing up hours before his time. Just go with the flow. If she NCNS after it's confirmed, then find someone reliable and cross that one off your list.. Originally Posted by Oralist

^^^ +1

If I make an appt & set a time with someone, I then send the complete directions. If I do this at night, I reconfirm in the morning just to let someone know that all is well.




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I don't ever give my address out until 2 hours prior to appt time. If a hobbyist takes his time to "screen" and make sure he sets aside time for said appt and I set aside for said appt......Then it is a "Set Appointment". Plan & simple.

No. IMHO if you or I do not have the exact address, or even the room number for that matter, how can you have an appointment?

I imagine DM can agree to this scenario. Winky wisperer and I agree to a time and date for an outcall. I give her the general location the day before. District, neighborhood or cross streets (private incalls, hotels, or apartment complexes could all be surrounding) is enough information to plan accordingly.

An hour before the scheduled time is when I should give her the address or ask for confirmation. Text should be fine, but I have been in a situation where someone doesn't get the text well after it was sent. Then a call is in order. Given that she is in the vicinity given to her the day before, fifteen minutes until T-time is enough to make it after we hang up.

So she pulls up to my hotel parking lot and the second part of the two-part system comes in two minutes before the first FORE! I text (or call her which I prefer) with the room number. That's when you have an appointment. Think two minute warning.

Let's just say I am waiting in the parking lot for DM to show up. And she does. But I don't like what I see. She is there. I am there but she doesn't know what I look like. This supposes a clear vision of the DT specialist. If she looks too ugly, too fat, too much like a prostitute (or worse: Latina), then I don't send the room number. No ROOM number! NO appointment.

I kid because I love. Maybe I'm the one who gets the address and she doesn't like what she sees. If I get no room number, then I had no appointment. I can bitch all I want but what is that gonna get me? Such is the paranoia. Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

I don't do outcalls with clients ive never seen so no I can't agree...

They gave you the name of the Motel and that is attached to a physical address.You brought up a good point that the room number is not part of any confirmation.Experienced providers don't give out the room numbers ahead of time for safety reasons. Originally Posted by 1on1

Correct I don't give out the room number either till I see your ass in the parking lot & your not doing anything fucking retarded...

So let's say in this scenario above that you go silent. Maybe you shit your pants and can't make it. You're stuck on the toilet and your wireless communicator is out of reach.

So you do nothing,...because you believe that you don't have an appointment because you haven't given her your address yet. No harm no foul.

But Dorfy left Union-ville already because it is more than an hour away from your ritzy outcall. She's on her way thinking how she's gonna throat punch you for green back Tubmans and a bottle of 20/20.

Then,...she has to hang out or circle in the district or neighborhood because she doesn't have the location....while you can't keep your shit together. And, since she needs the money so badly and has no other appointments, she hangs out for an hour past the time knowing you're the typical fuckTard that can't tell time and probably already ran out of Cottonelle® .

Well I guaran-fuckin-tee your ass that Dorfy is quickly gonna put you on public blast and send you a fucking NCNS invoice. Why?

Because just what you said, Winky wisperer and I agree to a time and date for an outcall.

You...made an appointment.

But go ahead,....keep on kissing her ass. Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

Ive never had anyone give me the general location bs & if they did I wouldn't see them...

&

Just so you know GS general location isn't a physical address which means THERE WAS NO APPOINTMENT & I COULDN'T BE MAD AT ANYONE BUT MYSELF...

If there is an agreed date and time, it's an appointment. We are all adults and should be responsible enough to honor our time committments. Most of us have significant responsibilites and do not like to have our time wasted. Originally Posted by GT1369

Very well said

On 8/23/16 11:53PM I see:

If you don't have an address then you didn't have an appointment Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

On 8/28/16 9:54PM I see (emphasis mine):

When tards make an appointment with me I always give the address 1 hour before unless Ive seen you before then I give it when we decide. Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

So I don't see, per this procedure, how a first time client can ever get an appointment. It's mutually exclusive. No address, no appointment. But first timer doesn't get an address until an hour out...?

By the way, this was precisely the situation I was describing in the original post that started that thread.

So as I said:

No wonder some folks don't want to call them appointments. This situation already has a name - it's called a put option, and providers get to buy them for free from hobbyists. Did you guys know you were selling free puts against your time?

So, the next time that a provider and I have a clear, unambiguous agreement to meet on a certain day, at a certain time, for a certain length of time, for a certain fee, in a certain area of town, the precise location is left TBD per her own booking process, and I have cleared the fucking decks to make this happen, but (1) the provider fails to follow through on her own booking process obligation to timely provide location through no fault of mine and (2) fails to communicate about it in any way at all, I will NOT post a NCNS and I will NOT say that we had an appointment that she broke. After all, we didn't really have an appointment, she just bought a put from me, for free, and she will keep on trying to buy other puts from other hobbyists at higher strike prices.

Instead, I will go into Coed and post "Provider Put Option Expired: [Handle]."

New term: PPOE.

I think this is a good compromise and should make everyone happy. Originally Posted by NMEufdaST8

I stand by that.

On 8/23/16 11:53PM I see:



On 8/28/16 9:54PM I see (emphasis mine):



So I don't see, per this procedure, how a first time client can ever get an appointment. It's mutually exclusive. No address, no appointment. But first timer doesn't get an address until an hour out...?

By the way, this was precisely the situation I was describing in the original post that started that thread.

So as I said:



I stand by that. Originally Posted by NMEufdaST8

If you're not interested in seeing me then understanding how I conduct my buisness doesn't matter... I conduct my whore buisness how I please if you don't like it then you can take your wallet & your questions on down the line to a whore who has enough time to explain to you...

Like I tell everyone read my showcase and follow directions everything you need to know is on there...

Everything I do is for a reason you may not agree with my reasons or understand but they are not there for you to agree with it's for my satisfaction and safety...

I stand correct if Ive never seen you then you are not given the address till a hour before the appointment why because Dorfy says so... Don't like it well move on...

I have been doing it this way for years so obviously it works

Toodles

If you're not interested in seeing me then understanding how I conduct my buisness doesn't matter... I conduct my whore buisness how I please if you don't like it then you can take your wallet & your questions on down the line to a whore who has enough time to explain to you...

Like I tell everyone read my showcase and follow directions everything you need to know is on there...

Everything I do is for a reason you may not agree with my reasons or understand but they are not there for you to agree with it's for my satisfaction and safety...

I stand correct if Ive never seen you then you are not given the address till a hour before the appointment why because Dorfy says so... Don't like it well move on...

I have been doing it this way for years so obviously it works

Toodles Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Yes, yes, of course, of course, obviously. But this isn't about your screening procedure. This is about the fact that I followed a procedure from another provider that just so happens to be similar to yours in one way: address to be provided close to appointment time, at least for a first time meeting. As I noted above, you said I did not have an appointment, implying an invalid NCNS post. You later used the word "appointment" to describe exactly the situation I was in that resulted in my NCNS thread. Do you see what I'm getting at?

So, if you could just indulge me two more questions, going back to my NotYourOnly NCNS thread:

If I follow the screening procedure (anybody's), and the provider and I agree to a session length, area of town, in/out, time, donation, and I am told I will be given the address later, and despite repeated attempts to confirm starting hours ahead of time via multiple forms of communication, I am never given the address and the provider has gone completely unresponsive:

1. Did I have an appointment?
2. Is that an NCNS?