Obama Speaks & DOW Tumbles !!!

Munchmasterman's Avatar
Yep ! Obama stepped out of the WH to address the nation today with the DOW hoovering in negative 400 territory. Presumably the purpose of his address should have been to ally fears over market declines; but he went on the attack, blaming everyone under the moon (except his own policies) for the S&P downgrade...as a result the DOW went down down down (like a Cash tune) ending up the day at negative 615 !!!

Obama is a fucking joke. He blames everyone else for his failed presidency and refuses to take any responsibilites. He is no leader. He is a fanatical community organizer with no skills to lead this great nation. Even the recent Sunday NY Times opined so.

Originally Posted by Whirlaway
You don't seem to understand or you mischaracterise everything around you. You project your behavior on to the President. Let's compare your analisys to the White House Corespondent's.

President Barack Obama called Monday for political will from both parties Correct. It will take both. to fix what he described as the country's "eminently solvable" economic problems in the wake of last week's downgrade of its credit rating by Standard & Poor's. The market's reaction was expected by many economists
In remarks to reporters that were added to his daily schedule, Obama noted the Friday downgrade from AAA to AA+ occurred because "they doubted our political system's ability to act" following the grueling negotiations with congressional leaders that preceded last week's agreement on a debt ceiling increase.
Now it will take political will on the part of Democrats and Republicans, the president said, calling on all involved to stop refusing "to put what's best for the country ahead of self-interest or party or ideology."
"We knew from the outset that a prolonged debate over the debt ceiling, a debate where the threat of default was used as a bargaining chip, could do enormous damage to our economy and the world's," Obama said on a day the Dow plunged 634 points in reaction to the S&P downgrade.

"That threat, coming after a string of economic disruptions in Europe, Japan and the Middle East, has now roiled the markets and dampened consumer confidence and slowed the pace of recovery." he said.
Calling the situation a "legitimate source of concern," Obama said the "good news" is that "our problems are eminently solvable. And we know what we have to do to solve them.
The nation needs to tackle its budget deficits over the long term, he said, adding that he will be presenting his ideas for how to proceed in coming weeks as a special congressional committee set up under the debt-ceiling agreement begins its work. Obama offered no details of his plan, and White House Press Secretary Jay Carney also provided no additional information when questioned later by reporters.
In his remarks, Obama said the issue of the most immediate concern to most Americans and to financial markets was the slow pace of recovery from economic recession.
He renewed his call for Congress to extend into next year the payroll tax cut that took effect in January as well as funding for unemployment insurance benefits, saying both steps would spur economic activity by putting money into the hands of consumers.
Noting public concerns about the economy, Obama declared: "Markets will rise and fall, but this is the United States of America. No matter what some agency may say, we've always been and always will be a triple-A country."
To tackle the mounting federal deficits and national debt, Obama has called for a comprehensive agreement that would cut spending, reform entitlement programs and increase tax revenue.
Republicans oppose any kind of tax increase, and many reject increased tax revenue even if the tax rates remain the same or are lowered.
The tax revenue issue, as well as the scope of entitlement reforms, have been the main stumbling blocks to a major deficit reduction deal.
"Over the next several months, there will be tremendous pressure on Congress to prove that S&P's analysis of the inability of the political parties to bridge our differences is wrong," said House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said in a memo to GOP members.
"In short, there will be pressure to compromise on tax increases," he said. "We will be told that there is no other way forward. I respectfully disagree."he then proves S&P analysis is right. Either that or he has known a way he is not telling
The special congressional committee set up under a debt ceiling deal will comprise 12 members -- six Democrats and six Republicans -- from the House and Senate. It must present its recommended package of deficit reduction steps by November 23, and Congress must vote on the package with no amendments by December 23.
Congressional leaders have until August 16 to appoint members to the special committee.

Nothing in here supports whirlys version of things. You dig faster than 2 marschalls could HA HA you out,
"Vote Buyer In Chief"

His never ending quest to buy votes by promising to give any supporter anything they want has, hopefully, run it's course.

He is proving one thing. You can take the man out of Chicago, but you can't take Chicago out of the man.
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Thank you for noticing. It did take well over an hour.

The economy? Let the Bush tax cuts expire. Cut spending. Offer higher (tax rate cuts) or lower (cash) incentives to the public for ways to cut spending and expenses (similar to "whistle blowing" programs that reward inovation with a % of the money saved). Originally Posted by acp5762
Well what you have purported as solutions may look good on paper. The american dollar is the standard in world currency. If the dollar falls in value it affects other economys too. would other countries want to continue trade with the United States if the value of the dollars falls? Can we still borrow money under those conditions? If our currency falls in value or is no longer an acceptable viable form of currency what would take its place and what would we have to do to maintain our current lifestyle?
waverunner234's Avatar
I hope BO refrains for speaking today, I don't want another hit on my stock
You don't seem to understand or you mischaracterise everything around you. You project your behavior on to the President. Let's compare your analisys to the White House Corespondent's.

President Barack Obama called Monday for political will from both parties Correct. It will take both. to fix what he described as the country's "eminently solvable" economic problems in the wake of last week's downgrade of its credit rating by Standard & Poor's. The market's reaction was expected by many economists
In remarks to reporters that were added to his daily schedule, Obama noted the Friday downgrade from AAA to AA+ occurred because "they doubted our political system's ability to act" following the grueling negotiations with congressional leaders that preceded last week's agreement on a debt ceiling increase.
Now it will take political will on the part of Democrats and Republicans, the president said, calling on all involved to stop refusing "to put what's best for the country ahead of self-interest or party or ideology."
"We knew from the outset that a prolonged debate over the debt ceiling, a debate where the threat of default was used as a bargaining chip, could do enormous damage to our economy and the world's," Obama said on a day the Dow plunged 634 points in reaction to the S&P downgrade.

"That threat, coming after a string of economic disruptions in Europe, Japan and the Middle East, has now roiled the markets and dampened consumer confidence and slowed the pace of recovery." he said.
Calling the situation a "legitimate source of concern," Obama said the "good news" is that "our problems are eminently solvable. And we know what we have to do to solve them.
The nation needs to tackle its budget deficits over the long term, he said, adding that he will be presenting his ideas for how to proceed in coming weeks as a special congressional committee set up under the debt-ceiling agreement begins its work. Obama offered no details of his plan, and White House Press Secretary Jay Carney also provided no additional information when questioned later by reporters.
In his remarks, Obama said the issue of the most immediate concern to most Americans and to financial markets was the slow pace of recovery from economic recession.
He renewed his call for Congress to extend into next year the payroll tax cut that took effect in January as well as funding for unemployment insurance benefits, saying both steps would spur economic activity by putting money into the hands of consumers.
Noting public concerns about the economy, Obama declared: "Markets will rise and fall, but this is the United States of America. No matter what some agency may say, we've always been and always will be a triple-A country."
To tackle the mounting federal deficits and national debt, Obama has called for a comprehensive agreement that would cut spending, reform entitlement programs and increase tax revenue.
Republicans oppose any kind of tax increase, and many reject increased tax revenue even if the tax rates remain the same or are lowered.
The tax revenue issue, as well as the scope of entitlement reforms, have been the main stumbling blocks to a major deficit reduction deal.
"Over the next several months, there will be tremendous pressure on Congress to prove that S&P's analysis of the inability of the political parties to bridge our differences is wrong," said House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said in a memo to GOP members.
"In short, there will be pressure to compromise on tax increases," he said. "We will be told that there is no other way forward. I respectfully disagree."he then proves S&P analysis is right. Either that or he has known a way he is not telling
The special congressional committee set up under a debt ceiling deal will comprise 12 members -- six Democrats and six Republicans -- from the House and Senate. It must present its recommended package of deficit reduction steps by November 23, and Congress must vote on the package with no amendments by December 23.
Congressional leaders have until August 16 to appoint members to the special committee.

Nothing in here supports whirlys version of things. You dig faster than 2 marschalls could HA HA you out, Originally Posted by Munchmasterman
Whats your version of "things" ? Your pretty quik to refute, but when it comes down to showing true knowledge you fall short. By your own admission it took you over an hour to write a short paragraph refuting my post. So I gave you the benefit of the doubt and decided to throw a few questions at ya, that you've yet to answer. I guess you need more time.
TexTushHog's Avatar
I hope BO refrains for speaking today, I don't want another hit on my stock Originally Posted by waverunner234
Opps!! He spoke and the market is up 4%. Are you going to give back your gains?
Let me guess! Mel Gibson once played the lead role in a movie made about your life! Originally Posted by bigtex
No it was Morgan Freeman.
Monday's losses were no doubt compounded by Obama's terrible statement from the WH, accelerating Monday's meltdown.

Tuesday's gains had nothing to do with what Obama said on Monday; and everything to do with what happened in the euor-markets earlier and Bernacke !



Opps!! He spoke and the market is up 4%. Are you going to give back your gains? Originally Posted by TexTushHog
waverunner234's Avatar
Opps!! He spoke and the market is up 4%. Are you going to give back your gains? Originally Posted by TexTushHog
I didn't hear him speaking, maybe that's the secret, and the market I play is up every day, lol so actually I shouldn't care.

Did he say something new? Maybe that's why the market went up?
Yep: Obama gave his "save my job" campgain speech to a joint session of Congress lat night and the market tumbles ......

DOW down 302 points as of 10:53 am.


The market knows what a failure Obama is...and soon the electorate will get to decide.........less than 14 months.

Can America survive this guy much longer?
waverunner234's Avatar
Yep: Obama gave his "save my job" campgain speech to a joint session of Congress lat night and the market tumbles ......

DOW down 302 points as of 10:53 am.


The market knows what a failure Obama is...and soon the electorate will get to decide.........less than 14 months.

Can America survive this guy much longer? Originally Posted by Whirlaway
Whirl you are a real stupid ass, and as usual you are completely WRONG
I know you love to blame Obama but the sole reason that the DOW was down (and the DOW means nothing, it's the S&P that counts did you know that?) HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA'S SPEECH
The only reason for the market to go down was an article by UBS about a possible bankruptcy this coming weekend of Greece and the implications on the future of the Euro.
By the way maybe you noticed (I doubt it) that the value of the dollar rose at high speed the last 2 days?
WE can play the blame game , but the truth is ALL of them need to be fired.

Bad things happen , when good men do nothing! Thats us folks
CuteOldGuy's Avatar
+1
It happened again ! WTF is it with this guy?

This morning (9.30 am EST) Obama is at the WH introducing his $1.3 trillion dollar "deficit plan" and the stock market tubles again !!!!!!!!

The DOW is down 173 at noon today !
waverunner234's Avatar
Whirl, REAL STUPID PEOPLE NEVER LEARN

The DOW was down due to ongoing problems in the EuroZone
All financial markets were down since the Japan market opened 16 hours ago and went all through the world, Asia, Europe and now the US
Actually when Obama was speaking the market went UP
The lowest point in the market was reached before Obama even started.

So whats next? Are you gonna blame Obama for the problems in Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain, Portugal?
Be honest, you wish you could.