Hypathetical Question but not so much;)

Didn't feel like reading 5 pages so I'm answering the OP:

I would possibly agree to traveling with you if all expenses were paid. I could use a vacation. Would I expect pay? Probably, but just at a one-time base pay. Maybe $500 for a weekend since you are paying for EVERYTHING else.

I need to laugh. You are with the gentlemen and he has just purchased an all expense paid vacation for you. That is FREE? What are you going to do figure out how many hours you spent having sex and multiply that by your hourly rate? Frankly, it would be more reasonable for him to offer to take you, not pay at all for vacation expenses and multiply by the hour. BTW, such vacations to the tropics can be had. You pay one price and you can switch ladies mid trip. The ladies know why they are there. Obviously you don't. You think that he pays for everything and must pay for the sex too. That isn't wanting something for free. That is receiving something of value for something of value. I've known ladies to trade sex for household appliances. What is the difference? Originally Posted by heinz5710

The thing is, for the lady, however someone may spin it, it's not a vacation, it's still work.

I have been on trips with providers before but in each case they were ladies whom I had been seeing regularly for months, or even years. And I did compensate them every time, however they did give me significant discounts over their listed rates. I would never expect a provider to go with me anywhere for no compensation.
Although this is a vacation for you, it really isn't a vacation for the provider, no matter how well you get along with them.
My suggestion to the OP is to open an account with one of the SD/SB sites. Everything is negotiable there. I'm sure you could find a girl who would take you up on your offer. Originally Posted by TheDoc

^^^ This.

There was a thread similar to this in the Diamonds and Tuxedos forum. You may want to hunt it down and read the posts there. Two themes that ran through that thread were compensation for time/services and down time. I suppose they could relate to each other. If you want the provider with you 24/7 (no down time), that would probably affect her willingness to waive compensation.

The thing is, for the lady, however someone may spin it, it's not a vacation, it's still work.

^^^ This. Originally Posted by jbravo_123

That is SO true!!! A REAL vacation for me (as a woman, person, human being) is to go on my own, with someone I love, my parents, family, close friends....with no expectation to 'entertain', have sex, or dress up and do whatever I want to do. A time I can be MYSELF....not to provide GFE illusion, illusion of passion. I don't want to dress up or put on make up all the time. I want to look like a bum and do what I like....not what the client likes.THAT is a vacation!!!

That is SO true!!! A REAL vacation for me (as a woman, person, human being) is to go on my own, with someone I love, my parents, family, close friends....with no expectation to 'entertain', have sex, or dress up and do whatever I want to do. A time I can be MYSELF....not to provide GFE illusion, illusion of passion. I don't want to dress up or put on make up all the time. I want to look like a bum and do what I like....not what the client likes.THAT is a vacation!!! Originally Posted by samantha thom

Thats understandable. I would obviously appreciate your laid back nature. That would be the purpose of the whole thing. To try and relax and make a time of it. I think bummy would be great. Especially if we are surfing

Again my opinion really doesn't matter since I am asking the title question hypothetically for those who cant, wont, haven't but thought about it. Obviously this is an over generalization because I can see where some clients are totally into that run run run lifestyle. If this trip was in my court it would be nothing but chill. While some others may be so inclined to play dress up and do that extra work. I do see your point. Also if I was to ever consider taking a woman on a trip like this I would totally want here to be herself. Thats just me though.

That is SO true!!! A REAL vacation for me (as a woman, person, human being) is to go on my own, with someone I love, my parents, family, close friends....with no expectation to 'entertain', have sex, or dress up and do whatever I want to do. A time I can be MYSELF....not to provide GFE illusion, illusion of passion. I don't want to dress up or put on make up all the time. I want to look like a bum and do what I like....not what the client likes.THAT is a vacation!!! Originally Posted by samantha thom

Taint is a real vacation ... no expectations just pleasure.

I have taken many ladies on trips to the stars for normal travel expense .... they must think they are in Heaven cause they always scream " Oh God " .

Taint is a real vacation ... no expectations just pleasure. Originally Posted by pyramider

I think you hit the nail on the head. For most providers, it is just a job. They might enjoy the sex a little but not enough to consider it entertainment for themselves. If it were, you might get more takers. It is much more reasonable to go to the DR for an adult vacation. You could enjoy the beach and the food and you might have your choice of providers if you were so inclined. That is much cheaper than your proposal and just as described here, the ladies are working. Now the lady from Arkansas came close to what you really want. She asked $500 more. However, don't expect her to just rip her clothes off because you ask. For that price you might get two shots on goal and the entertainment she went for, might cost you much much more.

Everyone has their currency though. I have gone on 2 trips (with the same client) and they were both tennis related since he knows that that is my 'currency' and he's not even a tennis player/fan.
He would basically work from the hotel room all day while I'm playing/watching tennis and we got together in the evening. It was one the best experience of my life. :-)

I think you hit the nail on the head. For most providers, it is just a job. They might enjoy the sex a little but not enough to consider it entertainment for themselves. If it were, you might get more takers. It is much more reasonable to go to the DR for an adult vacation. You could enjoy the beach and the food and you might have your choice of providers if you were so inclined. That is much cheaper than your proposal and just as described here, the ladies are working. Now the lady from Arkansas came close to what you really want. She asked $500 more. However, don't expect her to just rip her clothes off because you ask. For that price you might get two shots on goal and the entertainment she went for, might cost you much much more. Originally Posted by heinz5710

You know, it chaps my ass when guys talk like this. You sound like the kind of guy that has a good time with a lady then asks her for her real name. The highlighted areas show the flaw in your thinking.

* While this IS a job, it's not JUST a job because we expect to get paid for spending time with a guy that's not our SO, who should be the only one that expects that kind of privilege with a woman. UNDERSTAND WHY YOU PAY COMPANIONS! You pay us to be in intimate situations and not being your SO. For not being your first choice. Your SO benefits (that may be emotionally and/or financially) from your commitment to her. You pay because we don't have that level of security.

* Just like YOU want to feel that someone genuinely enjoys your company, we need you to respect that this is our job. What you show with this frame of mind is that you value your money over her comfort. If you don't have it to give, I understand. Go on vacation by yourself or with a civvie. There's nothing wrong with being good friends and sharing great experiences within the confines of our business relationship. But not if you don't respect it.

* Make a woman comfortable, and have a good time. There's nothing like a happy woman that gets what she asks for. You should expect a no holds barred experience. No wondering how many times she's going to sleep with you, wondering if she's got ads up while she's in town, or if she's meeting some other guy when she says she needs 'me time' and jumps in a taxi.

* Shortchange a companion because you pay for the flight and food, and get shortchanged on the experience. A REAL Companion doesn't want any reason to mutter 'cheap mutherfuccer' under her breath and give you a side eye when you get too handsy in the middle of the night on day three.

* While you may be a great person, understand that nothing obligates us to show you that we like you by giving you a freebie. For some of us, meeting you should be appreciation enough.

Respect your companions. Don't cheat yourself. Raise your expectations.

You know, it chaps my ass when guys talk like this. You sound like the kind of guy that has a good time with a lady then asks her for her real name. The highlighted areas show the flaw in your thinking.

* While this IS a job, it's not JUST a job because we expect to get paid for spending time with a guy that's not our SO, who should be the only one that expects that kind of privilege with a woman. UNDERSTAND WHY YOU PAY COMPANIONS! You pay us to be in intimate situations and not being your SO. For not being your first choice. Your SO benefits (that may be emotionally and/or financially) from your commitment to her. You pay because we don't have that level of security.

* Just like YOU want to feel that someone genuinely enjoys your company, we need you to respect that this is our job. What you show with this frame of mind is that you value your money over her comfort. If you don't have it to give, I understand. Go on vacation by yourself or with a civvie. There's nothing wrong with being good friends and sharing great experiences within the confines of our business relationship. But not if you don't respect it.

* Make a woman comfortable, and have a good time. There's nothing like a happy woman that gets what she asks for. You should expect a no holds barred experience. No wondering how many times she's going to sleep with you, wondering if she's got ads up while she's in town, or if she's meeting some other guy when she says she needs 'me time' and jumps in a taxi.

* Shortchange a companion because you pay for the flight and food, and get shortchanged on the experience. A REAL Companion doesn't want any reason to mutter 'cheap mutherfuccer' under her breath and give you a side eye when you get too handsy in the middle of the night on day three.

* While you may be a great person, understand that nothing obligates us to show you that we like you by giving you a freebie. For some of us, meeting you should be appreciation enough.

Respect your companions. Don't cheat yourself. Raise your expectations.

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

+1 I love how you broke that down!

I think it also depends on if the provider is one that tours frequently or most of the time vs a local gal that doesn't tour or tours very little. Touring ladies may be seeing 2-3 guys a day so their compensation would probably need to be more. Local ladies I would guess at seeing 3-4 clients a week. So I would offer a 3 client based rate of 3 clients at one hr. and one 2 hr. client. Add that up and I would think that would be adequate compensation with the other qualities of the trip that you are offering.

Yes, you as a provider can afford your own steak and lobster dinner. I don't think it is realistic that you would treat yourself to that every night. (maybe on tour you might but, in general probably not realistic).

If you make friends with the ladies you see and see them on a regular basis then things generally work out in different ways of compensation. Enjoying each others company and treating the ladies with dignity and respect will carry one a long way in this lifestyle.

Why take sand to the beach. I have been to Hawaii many times and have never failed to hook up. There are women of all ages there just to have a fantasy week or weekend. Some married and some not. They don't want to get involved but just have a great time. They will fuck you until you can't move. I am by no means a Brad Pitt. Just some good conversation and the rest will take care of itself.

+1 on sam's post

that's what i think, y wud one get paid thru a vacation to actually go to work, these ladies r looking to profit wheres the profit in this kinda package, only way i see that working if she asked said client to take her on vacation

As a provider, I would never go on a trip without compensation....well, EXCEPT to the French Open, Australian Open, Wimbledon, or the US Open for me. :-)
But in general, going on a trip with a client will cost us money, too....pet sitting expense, childcare, missing potential income, etc, etc. To be honest, if we want to go on vacation, we make enough money to pay for it ourselves, pick our own destination, go with our SO, bf, friend, family or whoever we are more comfortable with, completely relax and take some time off from our 'work'. Originally Posted by samantha thom

Another +1. Most of us aren't in this for the opportunity to travel....ijs. However, it does sound like a great vacation!