No. It shows there are ~550K people who mathematically should be alive but aren't. We know historically, the percentage of people that die every day from medical causes... for some strange reasons, deaths with cancer, blood, respitory disease are going through the roof in comparison to historical norms. Those curves started diverging in Mar/Apr 2021.
Originally Posted by texassapper
Now apply that exact same logic to covid deaths in 2020-2021. For example, a person with 3 comorbidities who died and a DNA test said they had the covid.
Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
According to the CDC's Wonder database on I46 ICD codes (cardiac arrest). Heart attack-related deaths for people under the age of 50):
- 2018 -> 19K heart attack-related deaths
- 2019 -> 18.6K
- 2020 -> 24K (5000 extra deaths)
- 2021 -> 28K (8000 extra deaths)
And no, it's not Covid. The same database only has a combined 2,398 Cardiac-related Covid deaths in that age group in 2020 & 2021.
Originally Posted by texassapper
It's no great mystery. Here are total deaths in the USA by year,
2015 2,712,630
2016 2,744,248
2017 2,813,503
2018 2,839,205
2019 2,854,838
2020 3,358,814
2021 3,458,697
Incremental deaths in 2020 over 2019 level: 503,976 (18% increase)
Incremental deaths in 2021 over 2019 level: 603,859 (21% increase)
Deaths from COVID in 2020 (JAMA): 345,323
Deaths from COVID in 2021 (CDC): 460,000
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778234
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e1.htm
The number of people who died in 2020 and 2021 as a result of the COVID epidemic was actually higher than the numbers quoted above, for the reason described by Why_Yes_I_Do. Somebody had, for example, diabetes, heart disease and COVID. He ended up dying in 2020 because of COVID, but his death was attributed to Diabetes.
Anyway, COVID the disease is what's causing most of the excess deaths.
If you had 5,000 extra cardiac-related deaths among people under 50 in 2020 and 8,000 in 2021, why would you attribute the excess deaths to the COVID vaccine instead of COVID the disease? Very few people under 50 got the vaccine in 2020.
That's not to say I'd necessarily get the vaccine if I were in my 20's or 30's. But for many people, including me, getting the vaccine made a lot of sense.