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Originally Posted by Randy4Candy
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! The Tea Party must really be fucking with your head.....you didn't like the 2010 liberal beatdown at all........
No, they don't, Ianitliein. I'm not necessarily that much of a lefty, but I AM allergic to BULLSHIT. It's just that you can't figure out that who got duped by the fascists the last time were the ones who were so worried about the "purity" of their national experience and more concerned that the trains ran on time, not the so-called "intellectual, elite, lefties." You can drop off the cliche's at the corner trash bin. Originally Posted by Randy4CandyReally, Randy4Andy!?! Did you forget that it was the "lefties" who were concerned with leveling society, confiscating private property, mandating collectives, populating gulags, etc., in Russia, and it was the "lefties" who scared the average German citizen into the ranks of the Nazis!?!
Really, Randy4Andy!?! Did you forget that it was the "lefties" who were concerned with leveling society, confiscating private property, mandating collectives, populating gulags, etc., in Russia, and it was the "lefties" who scared the average German citizen into the ranks of the Nazis!?! Originally Posted by I B HankeringYes, IB-buttfuckingMichelle (you wish), really. And no, I didn't forget. Neither did Hitler and Mussolini. When they came to power they did everything in your quote. the only thing that "scared" the Huns and Dagos into the arms of Adolph and Benito was having to roll wheelbarrows full of cash around in order to buy a loaf of bread. You know, the ol' "national pride" angle. I think that's why Hitler named it National Socialism. Of course, it was neither once he took power - with - by the way - less than 35% of the vote the last time he ran for anything. Don't worry, you TeaPunks are at about 22% and you'll be headed off before you get past 30%. A Totalitarian state, whether it's called "Socialist," "Communist," or "Nationalist," is still a Totalitarian state.
Yes, IB-buttfuckingMichelle (you wish), really. And no, I didn't forget. Neither did Hitler and Mussolini. When they came to power they did everything in your quote. the only thing that "scared" the Huns and Dagos into the arms of Adolph and Benito was having to roll wheelbarrows full of cash around in order to buy a loaf of bread. You know, the ol' "national pride" angle. I think that's why Hitler named it National Socialism. Of course, it was neither once he took power - with - by the way - less than 35% of the vote the last time he ran for anything. Don't worry, you TeaPunks are at about 22% and you'll be headed off before you get past 30%. A Totalitarian state, whether it's called "Socialist," "Communist," or "Nationalist," is still a Totalitarian state. Originally Posted by Randy4CandyAnd just which party is advocating leveling society and confiscating property -- via heavy taxation -- Randy4Andy? And lest you forget, Randy4Andy, it was the left -- Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Che, etc., -- that established totalitarian societies and wrought misery in Eastern Europe, Cuba and Asia for more than two plus generations!
Hey, IBH, it was actually the war reparations and the shitty economy who "scared the average German citizen ito the ranks of the Nazis!" You're wrong, austxjr. There was a fear the Communist would take control of the government and initiate a revolution similar to that which took place in Russia. That fear of Communism is what swelled the Fascist ranks..
This tired old clash of civilizations shit has been being floated for at least 20 years since Samuel P. Huntington tried it in a lecture around 1992 and then wrote a book about it. Again, you're obviously wrong, austxjr. Your explanation doesn't explain or account for Egypt's recent and expectant demand for the abrogation of 1st Amendment rights in the U.S. This was the theme that the NeoCons at PNAC were humming when they dreamed up the strategy that got us into Afghanistan and Iraq (it was going to allow us to take over and control the world oil supply and manage our economic foes like the E.U. and Japan - how did that work out for ya?). Afghanistan has oil, austxjr!?! Since when?
Turns out that Islam and Islamic countries have more than enough cultural and social upheaval right now to deal with and actually, other than a few extremists, could care less about declaring war on the west or bringing Sharia law to the U.S. Yes, Mohammed advocated Islam as the worldwide religion, culture and law in the world when the world was a little slice of mostly the eastern Mediterranean coast - ho hum. BTW, austxjr, every strong Islamic ruler since Mohammed has called for the conquest of the West. Of course, you on the left always choose to ignore the fact the Christian West and Islamic East were in constant conflict from the 7th century to the early part of the 20th century. It was only during the period between WWI and the 1950s that the West imposed a tentative peace on SW Asia. So much for your "benign" Islamic society. Most world religions have advocated that they are the dominant or only religion, culture and government (bringing heaven to earth one burning at a time usually). So what? The legal standard in religious communities in many countries in the world is to let religious laws (Cannon, Halakhah or Sharia) and religious law bodies administer community law as long as it doesn't conflict with the law of the land. This actually takes the burden off the court system and reserves it for more serious issues like criminal law in many cases. Another thing you need to remember, austxjr, Islam was -- from very early on -- spread at the point of a sword. Christianity, on the other hand, was spread via missionaries during its first three centuries. It was not the state religion of Rome until the 4th century under Constantine.
Also turns out that most religions have advocated theocracies for most of their history and in most countries for most of human history you had a official state supported religion (which supported the king, queen or emperor and thus got reciprocal support) that influenced and dictated the laws in those lands. Any great empire in history including the Romans, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Chinese and many others practised this. Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism and even Hinduism all had many instances of this until democracy and separation of church and state appeared a little over 200 years ago. Once again, for your edification, austxjr, Islam has never made this distinction. The Christian right is trying to erode this in the U.S. and if they are successful there will then likely be a serious struggle to be the "state religion" of the U.S.A. Now who is being paranoid, austxjr? From that to Islam supplanting Christianity as our state religion and Sharia as our law is a much smaller step. Never said that would happen austxjr. Perhaps you should re-read the thread. However, terrorists advocating such a change will be a threat to the U.S. for the foreseeable future, and that's a fact you're trying to obfuscate and ignore, austxjr. As long as we are vigilant about the true separation of church and state we are probably OK (as is Europe and much of the rest of the world). Religions grow up too and learn to coexist with others and in fact Islam was very tolerant and forward thinking for much of its history. Islam began attacking the West in 674 and continued through until 1922. Once again, so much for your "benign" Islamic society, austxjr. Unfortunately some of Islam is experiences some slippage back into fundamentalism and intolerance, but that too will pass. Originally Posted by austxjr
Hey dumbass, answers these questions..........Ahhh, I see another player into the world of...I don't know shit, but I can yell loud...
Why don't we hear moderate muslim voices condemning the radicals?
Why did we watch so many muslims celebrating in the streets on 9/11/01?
Why are so many radical muslim running muslim countries?
Why is World conquest in muslim doctrine?
Why is there a holocaust of Christians going on in the Middle East?
Why are the muslims so uneducated throughout the World?
Why do the muslim always get into wars when they bump into other religions throughout the world?
Why do you think muslims believe every human being should submit to their religion or die? Originally Posted by ChoomCzar
A confrontation is coming and it will be between the west and islam. Do you believe in Sharia law or do you want to live under Sharia. I am very interested in the answers of the ladies.Well Hell NO I do not beleave in it...fuckem
I ask because we have a president who refers to the pedophile prophet of Islam as the Holy Prophet. Funny I have never heard him say anything about Jesus. Even the Reverend Wright admitted that he is not sure that Obama really converted which would indicate that Obama was something else before he was a christian...if he truly converted. If we don't have a Muslim president like Madonna thinks then we have a hard core sympathizer.
So ladies do you want to be second or third class citizens? Do you want to be beaten for not covering your hair, walking alone, or speaking to a man who is not your husband. Do you want to be stoned to death for adultery? It is not a pretty thing. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn