Demiland, love, and dating

I'll trade him to you for a rusty nail. Hell I'll even let you stab it into my hands, if you promise to take him off mine. Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Now see here Ms Summerhill , I am not yours to trade.

Why is it I have to be polite and say mother may I before replying to one of your post and yet you have Carte Blanche in saying anything negative about me without DG objecting a bit?

Oh wait I almost forgot, double standard is the order of your day.

Consistently targeting my character to make it appear questionable is neither discussion nor debate. It might be politely worded, but it's a personal attack. Your "philosophical debate" tactics are unethical. I do not log on during my free time to have someone dissect my posts to the point of badgering me. I find it disturbing you can't tell the difference between a lively conversation and being confrontational and rude.

Whether the statement is directly spoken to me, or is directed at another poster - the subject and approach doesn't change.

I am more confused now, than before.

What is "escort mode"? I have a Nineveh Facet(s) #? Mode, which entails much of what is coaxed out when I enjoy these endeavors...

Would I fall in love with a client? I don't like hypotheticals, Mr Donaghy, but I also know the sun looks its best in Italy somehow, it is *perfect*in Montepulciano and it would be a lie to say that I know I would dislike the way it shines in Brazil and also a lie to say I know that definitely I will prefer the way it burns in Italy in comparison to Brazil. And even then?- I may love the Italian sun but one of my favorite moons is in the Persian Gulf. And then, where are the stars the brightest and most thick?-And then...then...then!...
(There is always illumination).

(Why did I bother?)

And...Poor Ansley!

P.S. Sean Connery said that if ever he were rude, it was 50% the other persons fault. Have some good fun with that(or, not, more likely)...
P.S.S. Is Dennis Miller an asshole, or simply someone with many traits one would find among comedians? Karma, indeed.

Ms Summerhill ... Why is it I have to be polite and say mother may I before replying to one of your post ... Originally Posted by WTF

It is supposed to be "good manners." I'd toss a smiley here but it's been a very long day and evening. I'm not in the mood.

Now lets straighten out one last thing. Lauren was getting very little of my attention. Her double standard was. DG's defense of it was getting the bulk of it to tell ya the truth. He never seemed to want to answer this.

Yes we do.**
Would you want to see a lady you were fond of on her birthday knowing that she had a SO wanting to see her also? I would not. I respect others love. I would question both my selfishness and hers. I get no joy out of hurting another....and however indirect, it is hurting another. And the flip side to that is.... I would question any relationship I was in if my SO chose to be with another on a important date that we celebrated.

lol
(which is his choice)

Darn I have 3 nested WTF's quotes here lol

Honesty is a hallmark of successful relationships. Whether that be a relationship with a construction worker, engineer, lawyer, or escort. Re-reading Lauren's initial posting she makes it clear that she is upfront with an SO - or I guess potential SO - about what she does and what the implications are. She clearly outlines that a favorite gent may get her for her birthday or other such event. I think the real question, since she does not address it, is whether her SO has the same freedom to choose. If he does then there is no double standard it is the way they have chosen to construct their relationship

I give what I expect in return. If my SO wanted to run off to Hawaii with a super hot escort during our 5th anniversary, I'd wish him well. Hell I'd pay half the fee and call it an anniversary gift. I can always call up one of my playthings to keep me amused in his absence, book my own plaything, or take a date and be someone's plaything

I'd would insist my SO share all the dirty details the next time we play! Adds some additional spice.

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Consistently targeting my character to make it appear questionable is neither discussion nor debate. Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Well I am sorry you think that way but we do live in a free country.

I do not make it appear questionable, from my point of view you do a very good job of that all by yourself.

You put a belief system out for all to see, yet it is in total contrast IMHO.

You did it in another thread where you stated that you enjoyed well thought out intro letters. Yet when a poster pointed out that you may have glossed over his letter to you with a terse comment showing that you did not even read his you ignore his post all together. Why is that?

I want to paint with the brush of truth. I am sorry if you do not find that portrait flattering.

I do not log on during my free time to have someone dissect my posts to the point of badgering me. Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

I have totally ignored you since you asked in this thread. I have answered questions and false accusations from DG and Colette. I am sorry if you think that is badgering you. I happen to think otherwise.

I find it disturbing you can't tell the difference between a lively conversation and being confrontational and rude. Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Lwt's see now....you being rude is ok. Me asking what we both agree are politely worded questions is not?

I am really starting to understand this whole double standard thing.

I do not agree with it but I really do believe that you do.

I am indifferent to our conversations, we can either have them or not. To think otherwise is just not fact based.

I used to be such a romantic. I believed in a soul mate. I believed in true love. Now, I don't know what I believe when it comes to a life long mate.

All my life I was codependent. I felt I needed a man in my life to "complete me." "I LOVE you, please don't leave me!" was a desperate cry from within. I was very insecure. I was committed 100% and lived my life to please my mate, then when he didn't live his life for me - I was devastated. "After all I've done for you..." "After all I’ve given up, sacrificed..." It was pathetic! I was so needy, I drove men away. I was so terrified of being alone.

Now, I'm the opposite. I am happy without a man in my life. I don't NEED anyone. And now I look at relationships and wonder. Why do we have to own someone else? In a relationship why am I yours and you are all mine? Why do we have to envision our future with this person, instead of just enjoying that they are here right now in this moment. Why do we have to think about FOREVER?

I am guilty of these emotional attachments. Just like a baby with his Blankley. He feels comfortable holding it tightly, but try to take it away and he will fall apart. Why are we afraid of loosing the ones we love? Why don't we just love them and be glad that they are here now? Enjoy the moment?

Why do we get jealous? Is it from insecurity? Are we afraid if he talks to her, he might like her better and leave me? If he sleeps with someone else, he may not ever come home to me? Or if he loved me he wouldn't want anyone else?

Why do we NEED to know that this will last?

I used to think I would DIE without him (any of them that I loved), but now I cherish the moments and don't worry about the future. I have survived worse. Originally Posted by Nicolette Bordeauxva

I understand Colette, I really do. Yet, you brought up far too many things that have to be addressed individually and discussing some of those items here would not be appropriate. Overall, my opinion of what you wrote is that it is most unfortunate you feel the way you do being as young as you are but it is your opinion and I respect that. However I look at what you wrote as the very reason why I retired from seeing providers almost two years ago and that what you wrote speaks volumes about who you are with very few written words.

Personally, I did not want to live like you described and that is why I made the choices I did a couple of years ago but that is me.

Now see here Ms Summerhill , I am not yours to trade.

Why is it I have to be polite and say mother may I before replying to one of your post and yet you have Carte Blanche in saying anything negative about me without DG objecting a bit?

Oh wait I almost forgot, double standard is the order of your day. Originally Posted by WTF

WTF ... martyrdom? .... Please ....

I think she was trading you for a drink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duo_and...ils#Rusty_Nail

I was trading him in for blood poisoning.


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Darn I have 3 nested WTF's quotes here lol

I think the real question, since she does not address it, is whether her SO has the same freedom to choose. If he does then there is no double standard it is the way they have chosen to construct their relationship Originally Posted by discreetgent

Only three? lol It is getting confusing. At the risk of being accused of badgering Lauren...

Look let's just focus on the words and forget who said it. But to say you want someone to be happy , yet then restrict their options is not being truthful. To the viewer. Like I said from the start it appears it could very well be a Hobson Choice.

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I have always encouraged my SO's to see other ladies. I ask only that they not be in my social circle. I strongly prefer it be a professional lady instead of a swinger or some woman he picked in a bar. Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

I am reminded of this commercial. Wow, you didn't say I could have a real person, only one you choose for me. Is that really how an open relationship is. Why call it open. Sounds controlling to me.



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WTF if, as you state, you can hurt someone indirectly - i.e. being with an escort on her birthday meaning she is not with her SO and thus hurting her SO - then surely you can badger someone indirectly as well. Doing it in such a fashion is clever but that does not mean the rest of us are idiots and cannot see through it.

Free country, free speech? absolutely (well mostly, it applies only to government). Badgering? Not sure that really is what our Founding Fathers had in mind.

I was trading him in for blood poisoning. Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Tsk, tsk, Lauren that was not a very nice thing to say.

Ummm even in free countries with free speech, if someone publicly questions your character, you can take legal actions. If someone harasses you, you can press charges.

Do not mistake free for lawless, honourless anarchy.

Tsk, tsk, Lauren that was not a very nice thing to say. Originally Posted by discreetgent

No... it wasn't. I was teasing Terbul, who mentioned martyrdom. I probably wasn't any nicer to offer to be stabbed with a rusty nail in exchange for WTF leaving me in peace.