Sure. Subpoena them, why not? Go ahead and waste more time and money on this snipe hunt.... Originally Posted by Chateau BecotHe's a dead duck on obstruction of justice already. Campaign finance violation, if he knew about the lawyer's payment, is a lead pipe cinch. He won't be indicted because Mueller will say that's a political decision for the House and the Senate through impeachment. Kushner's daddy's old cell is being cleaned out for him as we speak. How much more ammunition do you want the Special Counsel to have. Snipe hunt my ass! Trump is dirtier than a $2 truck stop whore.
He's a dead duck on obstruction of justice already. Campaign finance violation, if he knew about the lawyer's payment, is a lead pipe cinch. He won't be indicted because Mueller will say that's a political decision for the House and the Senate through impeachment. Kushner's daddy's old cell is being cleaned out for him as we speak. How much more ammunition do you want the Special Counsel to have. Snipe hunt my ass! Trump is dirtier than a $2 truck stop whore. Originally Posted by TexTushHogI can see how an indictment on campaign finance may be viewed as political. I do not see how, if Mueller can show evidence of obstruction, how that would be. You're probably right. But still, I'd love to see Mueller throw down an indictment. It would once and for all say Presidents are not above the law.
I can see how an indictment on campaign finance may be viewed as political. I do not see how, if Mueller can show evidence of obstruction, how that would be. You're probably right. But still, I'd love to see Mueller throw down an indictment. It would once and for all say Presidents are not above the law. Originally Posted by greanI just think that absent an extraordinary situation that demand imprisonment — premeditated murder, hypothetically — a S[evial Counsel would want to avoid the appearance that “one man” can try to bring down a President or somehow surreptitiously overturn the results of an election. I’m not sure I buy the notion that as a matter of Constitutional law a sitting President can’t be inducted, but as a matter of propriety and institutional respect, on all but the rarest he shouldn’t be.
I just think that absent an extraordinary situation that demand imprisonment — premeditated murder, hypothetically — a S[evial Counsel would want to avoid the appearance that “one man” can try to bring down a President or somehow surreptitiously overturn the results of an election. I’m not sure I buy the notion that as a matter of Constitutional law a sitting President can’t be inducted, but as a matter of propriety and institutional respect, on all but the rarest he shouldn’t be.I agree with absolutely everything you said except I think obstruction of justice in a case about foreign agents attempting to tamper with our elections should be considered one of those rare instances.
Impeachment is the proper remedy for an unfit President, atnd at root, this is an argument that he is unfit because he can’t obey even the most basic laws that govern the operation of the executive branch of government. And Mueller strikes me as a guy who is smart enough to understand these arguments. And he’s a long term DC hand who understands the importance of institutional legitimacy. And Trump will try to make himself a martyr by claiming unelected bureaucrats are the boogie man that’s after him. And impeachment solves that problem, too. My guess is Trump is impeached, and then acquired. But I think he will come out of his impeachment weaker than he went in, unlike Clinton. Clinton was likeanle and wore well on people. Trump is a Yankee asshole and the more you see of him, the more obnoxious he seems. Originally Posted by TexTushHog
If he is impeached for obstruction, I don't see how the senate could let him stay in office. Originally Posted by greanCareful what you ask for.....last time I looked, Pence was still the Veep....
Careful what you ask for.....last time I looked, Pence was still the Veep....Pense, while I disagree with a lot of his policies, would have the good sense not lead by tweets. I wouldn't be completely utterly embarrassed by him every day.
Course....if it comes down to that, I suppose funny boys like you and Tush Hog will want to leave the country immediately.... Originally Posted by Chateau Becot
I agree with absolutely everything you said except I think obstruction of justice in a case about foreign agents attempting to tamper with our elections should be considered one of those rare instances.I understand your position. But I think the obstruction is more likely to be more minor stuff like fucking with Comey and trying to get him to go light on McFarland. I don't know if there is enough evidence to link Trump to knowledge of the nefarious contacts between his campaign and the Russians. He doubtlessly knew in a sense that they were up to no good and that some contacts were going on, but I don't know if that is enough to amount to criminal conduct. But I do look forward to Mueller's report.
Iif he is impeached for obstruction, I don't see how the senate could let him stay in office. Originally Posted by grean
Pense, while I disagree with a lot of his policies, would have the good sense not lead by tweets. I wouldn't be completely utterly embarrassed by him every day. Originally Posted by greanWhich is why we're better off with Cadet Bone Spur. Leaver the motherfucker there and tie his rotting and festering corpse around the neck of every Republican in the country. I can't see any way he can keep the economy humming along for 3 more years. Obama left a strong foundation in place, but it isn't THAT strong when it's being undermined on a daily basis by incompetence and ill intent. .