Dead candidate walking...

Dumbass, can you fucking read? The email was first sent as unclassified, and then the classification was changed at a later date to classified. It wasn't sent again.

Stick to teaching school Clarence Darrow. Originally Posted by flghtr65

Reading is fundemental, comphrehension is more difficult. Once again, it does not matter whether it was classified before, after, or never. The email does not belong to Hillary Clinton. It belongs to the people of the USA and it is against the law for even Barack Obama to erase it much less a mere mortal like Hillary Clinton.

Once again, it does not matter whether it was classified before, after, or never. The email does not belong to Hillary Clinton. It belongs to the people of the USA and it is against the law for even Barack Obama to erase it much less a mere mortal like Hillary Clinton. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

You and Hillary have a different version of the law. We'll find out who is right. From the link.

Clinton has said she turned over 30,000 work-related e-mails from her private account to the State Department in December. She said she chose not to keep 31,000 other e-mails from the account that were sent and received during those years because they dealt only with personal matters.
“Look, my personal e-mails are my personal business. Right?" she told reporters, when asked if the e-mails were wiped from the server. "So we went through a painstaking process and through 55,000 pages we thought could be worth relating. Under the law, that decision is made by the official. I was the official. I made those decisions."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...clinton-email/

You and Hillary have a different version of the law. We'll find out who is right. From the link.

Clinton has said she turned over 30,000 work-related e-mails from her private account to the State Department in December. She said she chose not to keep 31,000 other e-mails from the account that were sent and received during those years because they dealt only with personal matters.
“Look, my personal e-mails are my personal business. Right?" she told reporters, when asked if the e-mails were wiped from the server. "So we went through a painstaking process and through 55,000 pages we thought could be worth relating. Under the law, that decision is made by the official. I was the official. I made those decisions." Originally Posted by flghtr65

More deflection and deception. "Pay no attention..."

Guilty or innocent won't matter if she can be "swiftboated" with this issue.

Hypothesis: you are ranting about things you do not have sthe slightest clue about.

Do you think Fortune 500 companies make their data base administrators be listed in JPASS before giving them access to confidential data on the companies LEDGER SYSTEM? Are you kidding? You get internal security training and you have to pass a little quiz. The company wants make sure you don't leave a classified document at the airport, or train station. They want to make sure you don't share 2nd quarter sales results with your neighbor at a memorial day BBQ. They want to make sure you understand the various classification categories. For example:

Company ABC Classified - Only certain employees can have access
Company ABC - Internal Use only - Any employee can have access
Company ABC - Unclassified - The outside world can see it

All you did was go off on some fucking tangent. Spare me with your Bullshit. Originally Posted by flghtr65

Hypothesis confirmed.

Give it up, flghtr. As Old T said, you are ranting about things you don't have the slightest clue about. As usual, when someone calls you out on your clueless bullshit, all you can do is lash out with insults of other people's intelligence. That didn't work well for you when you insulted a whole bunch of people in another thread a few weeks ago, and it certainly isn't working now. You will apparently go to the ends of the earth to defend Hillary, no matter what she says or does. That's nothing more than blind, zealous partisanship.

Hillary figures, probably correctly, that since she's on the politically correct side of the ideological debate over social and economic justice and the size and role of government, she's legally immune from jeopardy under the current regime.

In any rational nation, she'd be a lot more concerned about the possibility of being criminally prosecuted and imprisoned than she would be about sagging poll numbers.

You and Hillary have a different version of the law. We'll find out who is right. From the link.

Clinton has said she turned over 30,000 work-related e-mails from her private account to the State Department in December. She said she chose not to keep 31,000 other e-mails from the account that were sent and received during those years because they dealt only with personal matters.
“Look, my personal e-mails are my personal business. Right?" she told reporters, when asked if the e-mails were wiped from the server. "So we went through a painstaking process and through 55,000 pages we thought could be worth relating. Under the law, that decision is made by the official. I was the official. I made those decisions."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...clinton-email/ Originally Posted by flghtr65

Interesting comment....in reality Hillary and I have the same law but I have to obey it and you think that Hillary is right that she doesn't have to obey it. ANY (read that again very carefully) on any government account becomes the property of the people of the USA whether it is about arms reduction or yoga positions. If Hillary put anything (and we know she did) on her server (which automatically becomes a proxy government server) then it becomes our property. It is illegal to erase (remember Nixon) or to attempt to from that server. Hillary has already broken the law regardless of what it was she tried to erase (you think it was cookie recipes or something). If it was classified material then that is another charge plus the fact that she had it in her possession (and didn't tell anyone). Then there is the charge that she was under a subpoena or the threat (same thing) and she was erasing things. Another felony. Are you afraid (I'm sure Hillary is) that we will discover the smoking gun; she knew about the terrorists at Benghazi, that her actions with the server made have made it possible by giving away the position of the ambassador, and that SHE came up with the video lie after she called off any change for help (tying up loose ends). She is deathly afraid of something and it is not pictures of her doing yoga.

18 USC 1924
(a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
18 USC 793
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense (like classified satellite photographs) which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, (like her lawyer David Kendall) or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer

Pssst! Hey, Fluffy! Hillary is a corrupt, dishonest, lying politician. Sorry to have to tell you the truth, but she is lying about her emails. It's not for her to decide what is relevant or personal, since it was all on the same server. She's committing Obstruction of Justice, among other crimes. Deal with it, Fluffy. If there is justice anywhere, Hillary will be running for President from a federal prison.

Interesting comment....in reality Hillary and I have the same law but I have to obey it and you think that Hillary is right that she doesn't have to obey it. ANY (read that again very carefully) on any government account becomes the property of the people of the USA whether it is about arms reduction or yoga positions. If Hillary put anything (and we know she did) on her server (which automatically becomes a proxy government server) then it becomes our property. It is illegal to erase (remember Nixon) or to attempt to from that server. Hillary has already broken the law regardless of what it was she tried to erase (you think it was cookie recipes or something). If it was classified material then that is another charge plus the fact that she had it in her possession (and didn't tell anyone). Then there is the charge that she was under a subpoena or the threat (same thing) and she was erasing things. Another felony. Are you afraid (I'm sure Hillary is) that we will discover the smoking gun; she knew about the terrorists at Benghazi, that her actions with the server made have made it possible by giving away the position of the ambassador, and that SHE came up with the video lie after she called off any change for help (tying up loose ends). She is deathly afraid of something and it is not pictures of her doing yoga.

18 USC 1924
(a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
18 USC 793
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense (like classified satellite photographs) which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, (like her lawyer David Kendall) or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

She didn't break the law with either of these, USC 1924 or USC 793.
18 USC 1924
(a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
The 4 classified documents that they found ran on unclassified systems in years 2009 and 2011. These documents unclassified at the time. These documents were subsequently sent to Hillary and were marked unclassified at the time. The classification was changed by the state department at a later date to classified. A link was already posted that said the burden is on the sender to mark the classification correctly. Read the links. These 4 emails were turned over as work related she did not try to erase them and they were marked unclassified because the people who had all of that training and never make a mistake with classifications made a mistake.

USC 793
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense (like classified satellite photographs) which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, (like her lawyer David Kendall) or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer
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Emails regarding Chelsa's wedding does not relate to the National Defense of the USA. She could remove them. The investigation has revealed that 400 of the emails that Hillary turned over as work related were not work related at all.________________

She didn't break the law with either of these, USC 1924 or USC 793.
18 USC 1924
(a)Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
The 4 classified documents that they found ran on unclassified systems in years 2009 and 2011. These documents unclassified at the time. These documents were subsequently sent to Hillary and were marked unclassified at the time. The classification was changed by the state department at a later date to classified. A link was already posted that said the burden is on the sender to mark the classification correctly. Read the links. These 4 emails were turned over as work related she did not try to erase them and they were marked unclassified because the people who had all of that training and never make a mistake with classifications made a mistake.

USC 793
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense (like classified satellite photographs) which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, (like her lawyer David Kendall) or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer
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Emails regarding Chelsa's wedding does not relate to the National Defense of the USA. She could remove them. The investigation has revealed that 400 of the emails that Hillary turned over as work related were not work related at all.________________ Originally Posted by flghtr65

You must be paid to be this thick. If Hillary erased only one, single work related message.......she broke the law. We really don't care about the Hillary planted story about Chelsea's wedding. If you bought into it then that is your problem but the sad truth is, if Hillary did put those wedding emails on that server they become the property of the American people, period. Give your brain some air so it can grasp this simple concept.

Give it up, flghtr. As Old T said, you are ranting about things you don't have the slightest clue about. As usual, when someone calls you out on your clueless bullshit, all you can do is lash out with insults of other people's intelligence. That didn't work well for you when you insulted a whole bunch of people in another thread a few weeks ago, and it certainly isn't working now. You will apparently go to the ends of the earth to defend Hillary, no matter what she says or does. That's nothing more than blind, zealous partisanship.

Hillary figures, probably correctly, that since she's on the politically correct side of the ideological debate over social and economic justice and the size and role of government, she's legally immune from jeopardy under the current regime.

In any rational nation, she'd be a lot more concerned about the possibility of being criminally prosecuted and imprisoned than she would be about sagging poll numbers. Originally Posted by Ex-CEO

Speaking of not having a clue. I asked you a couple of weeks ago "How did you run Accounting at your former company with pencil, paper and adding machine" You never answered the question. Neither you or Old- T know shit about I/T.

The example with company ABC that I gave with the security classifications was made very simplistic for a reason. The example of Company ABC - Internal Use Only is a real classification used by a company whose stock symbol is on the DJIA. This company has over 60 billion dollars of revenue yearly.

Did you think I was going to put real detailed company information on a Hobby Board?

I'll take a polygraph, I have had access to confidential information at Fortune 500 companies. I did not have to go 23 street to get it either.


What kind of company were you CEO of a mom and pop gas station?

Explain at a high level how you ran accounting or SHUT THE FUCK UP.

FYI, the name calling was started by IFFY and IBH long before your account was activated.

If Hillary erased only one, single work related message.......she broke the law. We really don't care about the Hillary planted story about Chelsea's wedding. If you bought into it then that is your problem but the sad truth is, if Hillary did put those wedding emails on that server they become the property of the American people, period. Give your brain some air so it can grasp this simple concept. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

A really weak come back JD. You have nothing with UFC 1924. With UFC 793 it has not been proven that she erased anything work related. By the way the FBI is not investigating Hillary, they are investigating the Emails. Also, according to Pat Buchanan who was on Hannity Tuesday knight, Hillary still has her government security clearance.

Speaking of not having a clue. I asked you a couple of weeks ago "How did you run Accounting at your former company with pencil, paper and adding machine" You never answered the question. Neither you or Old- T know shit about I/T. "Paper, pencil, and an adding machine?'' Come on. Why would I bother to answer such a silly question?

The example with company ABC that I gave with the security classifications was made very simplistic for a reason. The example of Company ABC - Internal Use Only is a real classification used by a company whose stock symbol is on the DJIA. This company has over 60 billion dollars of revenue yearly.

Did you think I was going to put real detailed company information on a Hobby Board?

I'll take a polygraph, I have had access to confidential information at Fortune 500 companies. I did not have to go 23 street to get it either.


What kind of company were you CEO of a mom and pop gas station? No, it was something just a bit more substantial than that.

Explain at a high level how you ran accounting of SHUT THE FUCK UP. Explain at a "high level?" Why should I bother? Judging from your clueless babble in this forum, you wouldn't understand anything I posted anyway.

FYI, the name calling was started by IFFY and IBH long before your account was activated. I don't give a fuck who called whom what prior to that thread. The only thing I saw was that you lashed out with insults directed at everyone who was handing you your ass on a platter, including me, when it became clear to all that the discussion wasn't going well for you.

And then, perhaps funniest of all, you topped all that off by actually boasting that you make $85,000 per year, insinuating that gives you some sort of credentials that we should all take seriously. LMAO! Yes, you BOASTED of making $85K per year. You just can't make this shit up! As I recall, I think I touched a sensitive nerve by suggesting that if your income is that meager, you ought to go back to school and get a better education. Or work on your career, rather than spending all your time perusing (and then posting about) pro-Hillary and pro-Obamacare websites. Originally Posted by flghtr65

Here's a suggestion for The Hildabeast's new motto:

A server in every toilet closet! (Don't forget to wipe!)
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Originally Posted by Ex-CEO

The reason you don't want to explain how you ran accounting is that the only thing you knew about it was when to ask the accounting department for reports.

You are turning out to be one of the most laughed at people on here. And for just cause!

Speaking of not having a clue. I asked you a couple of weeks ago "How did you run Accounting at your former company with pencil, paper and adding machine" You never answered the question. Neither you or Old- T know shit about I/T.
This is not a discussion of accounting practices. And why should I answer a question that was not asked of me? A dumb non-pertinent question at that?


The example with company ABC that I gave with the security classifications was made very simplistic for a reason. The example of Company ABC - Internal Use Only is a real classification used by a company whose stock symbol is on the DJIA. This company has over 60 billion dollars of revenue yearly. What is the Dow Jones symbol for NSA?
The discussion was not about company secrets either. It is about government classified material. You embarrass yourself by confusing the two.
Did you think I was going to put real detailed company information on a Hobby Board? Why would I think that? Really dumb comment on your part.

I'll take a polygraph, I have had access to confidential information at Fortune 500 companies. I did not have to go 23 street to get it either.

You amplify your ignorance with every comment you make.

What kind of company were you CEO of a mom and pop gas station?

Explain at a high level how you ran accounting or SHUT THE FUCK UP.

FYI, the name calling was started by IFFY and IBH long before your account was activated. Originally Posted by flghtr65