Claire She Blows and PlainVanillaATX

So, I guess CSB is responsible for this guy’s negligence? He not only visited a provider while married but he, apparently, had an ongoing relationship with her. Nevertheless it is the provider who is flogged publicly and encouraged by slimy SL and some other teenage gossip trolls.

Here is the real issue, why did he have a long-term relationship going on with CSB? Obviously he didn’t value his wife much and would rather have another woman in his life. CSB obviously knew he was married but caught feelings for him despite this, but she isn’t the one with a ring on her finger and love is a weird thing in that the heart wants what the heart wants. In this case, I opine your friend is an idiot for playing with a long-term relationship while he was married. I think I understand where your hatred for women stems from in that you mansplaining your friends reckless actions and placing the entire burden on CSB.

Your friend made the ultimate mistake of betting more than he can afford to lose and, despite the fact that he was married, you want to point all the blame CSB. While it seems that the medium used for communicating this message, the recipient has a right to know because she was married and her husband was shacking up on the side in an apparent long-term fling.

Grow up Whispers.

So, I guess CSB is responsible for this guy’s negligence? He not only visited a provider while married but he, apparently, had an ongoing relationship with her. Nevertheless it is the provider who is flogged publicly

it's the Whore here that picks up a phone and called the guys wife to tell her that he was seeing her..... It is the whore here that posted the story on social media for the world to read.... It is the whore here that posted pictures of the guy and her on social media.....

Was he a fucking idiot for getting involved with her in the first place? I think many would agree..... Is he just as culpable for the length of time it went and emotions that built?... I think most would also agree with that.....

But no where that anyone has seen is he outing her to friends or family trying to destroy her life..... he's trying to salvage what is left of his life.....

She admitted to doing that.....


Here is the real issue, why did he have a long-term relationship going on with CSB?


No... The only issue that matters here is that a whore was outing a member of this community... Anyone considering seeing her needs to be aware of that

Obviously he didn’t value his wife much and would rather have another woman in his life. CSB obviously knew he was married but caught feelings for him despite this, but she isn’t the one with a ring on her finger and love is a weird thing in that the heart wants what the heart wants. In this case, I opine your friend is an idiot for playing with a long-term relationship while he was married. I think I understand where your hatred for women stems from in that you mansplaining your friends reckless actions and placing the entire burden on CSB.

PlainVanillaATX was no friend of mine..... I met him one time when he was trying to get me to drop some of the issues that were being posted about Claire when her barebacking came to light..... That and he wanted information on another whore I knew that he wanted to see....

Your friend made the ultimate mistake of betting more than he can afford to lose and, despite the fact that he was married, you want to point all the blame CSB. While it seems that the medium used for communicating this message, the recipient has a right to know because she was married and her husband was shacking up on the side in an apparent long-term fling.

Grow up Whispers. Originally Posted by gt27

I'm not blaming Claire for how the relationship evolved. Both were members of this community and the end result was a Provider that advertises here outing a member of the board.....

That is the purpose for the thread.

There may be others that think , as I do, that the whore's have a responsibility, as the professional in the meetings, to keep it all professional..... I've not been pushing that point here at all.

I'm not blaming Claire for how the relationship evolved. Both were members of this community and the end result was a Provider that advertises here outing a member of the board.....

That is the purpose for the thread.

There may be others that think , as I do, that the whore's have a responsibility, as the professional in the meetings, to keep it all professional..... I've not been pushing that point here at all.

Originally Posted by Whispers

Oh, I gotcha. . . You aren't pushing the "the provider should be professional" issue, you're just here to protect some guy who, while not being your friend, you have infinite trust in and never ending knowledge of. I really have a hard time understanding how, if you are not friends with this guy, you have so much confidence in the messenger.

I don't buy it Whispers. I think this is either a friend of yours, or this is just another naive attempt at ruining a providers reputation. It doesn't help your credibility that your lone meeting with this guy was due to you bashing her. Your axe must be pretty sharp because you've been grinding it for a while.

Here, I'll help you out with a PSA: It is an incredibly stupid idea to have a long term relationship with a provider while you are married.

Does that help whispers? I guess dispersing common knowledge is worthy of an entire thread. And saying that she outed him. . . Bold accusations demand substantial evidence and your word carries little weight imo. Stupid decisions lead to stupid results. I bet your friend won't make that mistake again and, by mistake, I am referring to long term affairs while married.

Oh, I gotcha. . . You aren't pushing the "the provider should be professional" issue, you're just here to protect some guy who, while not being your friend, you have infinite trust in and never ending knowledge of.

No. You obviously are posting without having read and understood the details. I am not posting to protect this guy.... The message here is for EVERYONE that might consider seeing this provider to know what she is capable of. It is not the first time she has proven unprofessional in how she holds things in confidence that she learns in sessions.

I really have a hard time understanding how, if you are not friends with this guy, you have so much confidence in the messenger.

i don't need any confidence in the messenger... I went to the social media sites and read it myself as Claire posted it....

Did you miss her confession?



I don't buy it Whispers. I think this is either a friend of yours, or this is just another naive attempt at ruining a providers reputation.

reporting facts about her actions is not ruining her reputation... Her reputation is obviously of no concern to her based on her actions.

It doesn't help your credibility that your lone meeting with this guy was due to you bashing her. Your axe must be pretty sharp because you've been grinding it for a while.

My credibility has already been established by her admitting to what she did.

Here, I'll help you out with a PSA: It is an incredibly stupid idea to have a long term relationship with a provider while you are married.

Does that help whispers? I guess dispersing common knowledge is worthy of an entire thread. And saying that she outed him. . . Bold accusations demand substantial evidence and your word carries little weight imo. Stupid decisions lead to stupid results. I bet your friend won't make that mistake again and, by mistake, I am referring to long term affairs while married. Originally Posted by gt27

maybe you should read her words as well and not just want you want to....

Ok, went back and read it again. She did not say she told the wife that she is a provider or that her husband is a Jon. Again, I go back to the original issue--> Don't have a long term affair while married. It's that simple man. Look, I don't participate in the hobby when I have an SO. While that is just me, I think we both agree that Vanilla was being incredibly stupid in this case because it was long term.

As far as your post being only for public safety and nothing else, I don't buy that. You two have a history and this situation does not seem to be the "he slept with me once and now he's gone so I am going to tell the wife." That, to me, is outing. This situation is different in that there appears to be feelings involved. The gloves come off once you cross that line and break the rules of having more than just a transactional relationship. If what she said is true, and you seem to take it as being somewhat true, then you know Vanilla knew that they had something more than a mere provider/providee relationship. Play with fire and get burned. Should CSB have called the wife? That was probably a bad idea BUT your view makes it seem like providers have no heart and are incapable of feelings. You honestly think that having a 2+ year relationship will have a non-emotional ending, a relationship that seemed to have more than just a mere exchange of money and body fluids? If you are that naive, I have some land to sell you. . .



Back to the point, you are just dragging someone through mud.

Ok, went back and read it again. She did not say she told the wife that she is a provider or that her husband is a Jon. Again, I go back to the original issue--> Don't have a long term affair while married. It's that simple man. Look, I don't participate in the hobby when I have an SO. While that is just me, I think we both agree that Vanilla was being incredibly stupid in this case because it was long term.

As far as your post being only for public safety and nothing else, I don't buy that. You two have a history and this situation does not seem to be the "he slept with me once and now he's gone so I am going to tell the wife." That, to me, is outing. This situation is different in that there appears to be feelings involved. The gloves come off once you cross that line and break the rules of having more than just a transactional relationship. If what she said is true, and you seem to take it as being somewhat true, then you know Vanilla knew that they had something more than a mere provider/providee relationship. Play with fire and get burned. Should CSB have called the wife? That was probably a bad idea BUT your view makes it seem like providers have no heart and are incapable of feelings. You honestly think that having a 2+ year relationship will have a non-emotional ending, a relationship that seemed to have more than just a mere exchange of money and body fluids? If you are that naive, I have some land to sell you. . .

Back to the point, you are just dragging someone through mud. Originally Posted by gt27

No. I am not naive at all.....

I believe a provider that advertises on this board should handle her affairs in a more professional manner. Their relationship started as a session between two ECCIE members and from her writings on social media always had a financial component where he gave her cash each and every month.

I believe her outing him to the wife as well as posting pictures of the 2 of them is relevant to her continuing to whore herself out here on ECCIE.

What is unrealistic is for any whore to believe that a married man with a career, wife and children is going to give it all up for her......

look around and you will find whores that believe a john they were in a relationship with should be outed to everyone else so that other women will not fall for him.....

It's no different....

This particular whore has shown a lack discretion and professionalism on multiple occasions. None of this really comes as a surprise considering her history.

This is not personal.... If any other whore was doing the same and I was aware of it it would get posted.

Ok, went back and read it again. She did not say she told the wife that she is a provider or that her husband is a Jon. Again, I go back to the original issue--> Don't have a long term affair while married. It's that simple man. Look, I don't participate in the hobby when I have an SO. While that is just me, I think we both agree that Vanilla was being incredibly stupid in this case because it was long term.

As far as your post being only for public safety and nothing else, I don't buy that. You two have a history and this situation does not seem to be the "he slept with me once and now he's gone so I am going to tell the wife." That, to me, is outing. This situation is different in that there appears to be feelings involved. The gloves come off once you cross that line and break the rules of having more than just a transactional relationship. If what she said is true, and you seem to take it as being somewhat true, then you know Vanilla knew that they had something more than a mere provider/providee relationship. Play with fire and get burned. Should CSB have called the wife? That was probably a bad idea BUT your view makes it seem like providers have no heart and are incapable of feelings. You honestly think that having a 2+ year relationship will have a non-emotional ending, a relationship that seemed to have more than just a mere exchange of money and body fluids? If you are that naive, I have some land to sell you. . .



Back to the point, you are just dragging someone through mud. Originally Posted by gt27

"... Vanilla was being incredibly stupid..."
Makes not a pimple on a flea's ass whether she was a provider/escort.
The fact that a married guy was taking pictures with a woman other than his wife is a slap upside the head offense.
With social media the way it is that could slip out too easily.
I'll say it:
What a fucking DumbAss.

"Back to the point, you are just dragging someone through mud."
Yeah well,pigs do love them some mud...

No. I am not naive at all.....

I believe a provider that advertises on this board should handle her affairs in a more professional manner. Their relationship started as a session between two ECCIE members and from her writings on social media always had a financial component where he gave her cash each and every month.

I believe her outing him to the wife as well as posting pictures of the 2 of them is relevant to her continuing to whore herself out here on ECCIE.

What is unrealistic is for any whore to believe that a married man with a career, wife and children is going to give it all up for her......

look around and you will find whores that believe a john they were in a relationship with should be outed to everyone else so that other women will not fall for him.....

It's no different....

This particular whore has shown a lack discretion and professionalism on multiple occasions. None of this really comes as a surprise considering her history.

This is not personal.... If any other whore was doing the same and I was aware of it it would get posted. Originally Posted by Whispers

You just don't get it, do you? It was Vanilla who thought it would be a good idea to get into a relationship while married. It was Vanilla who agreed to photos(I assume, no one here said she put a gun to his head). It was Vanilla who had everything to lose and it was Vanilla who accepted that risk.

"What is unrealistic is for any whore to believe that a married man with a career, wife and children is going to give it all up for her......" Well, it looks like he did, maybe not voluntarily but he certainly knew the risk. I think what you should have said is that it is unrealistic for a married man to expect to keep his marriage intact while simultaneously having a long-term relationship with a provider.

Lesson learned the hard way: Long-term relationships and marriage never mix.

I'll only say one last thing that no one else seems to really think about.

Who were the people that were stalking Claire's PERSONAL Facebook to begin with and why? Why go and run & tell whispers? Females do this kind of shit. Jealous females. IDK. I wasn't there. I don't know the players. I just know if someone came in here and started posting shit that was on my personal social media...to me, that's outting. And I'd be fucking pissed.

"No matter how bad the blood."

I'll only say one last thing that no one else seems to really think about.

Who were the people that were stalking Claire's PERSONAL Facebook to begin with and why? Why go and run & tell whispers? Females do this kind of shit. Jealous females. IDK. I wasn't there. I don't know the players. I just know if someone came in here and started posting shit that was on my personal social media...to me, that's outting. And I'd be fucking pissed. Originally Posted by The Infamous One

My money is on the same person who outed him to his girlfriend on this very forum:

btw can you please tell your boyfriend to come collect the article of clothing that he left at my place while you two were on your "break". I have been trying to get him to come collect these things before I throw them out....
Originally Posted by Daddys Girl ATX

I'll only say one last thing that no one else seems to really think about.

Who were the people that were stalking Claire's PERSONAL Facebook to begin with and why? Why go and run & tell whispers? Females do this kind of shit. Jealous females. IDK. I wasn't there. I don't know the players. I just know if someone came in here and started posting shit that was on my personal social media...to me, that's outting. And I'd be fucking pissed. Originally Posted by The Infamous One

"Who were the people that were stalking Claire's PERSONAL Facebook to begin with and why? Why go and run & tell whispers?"

Telephone,telegraph and tele-Whispers...
Anyone,whether hobbyist or provider that shares info/gossip with Whispers best beware.
This thread is ALL the evidence you need.

My money is on the same person who outed him to his girlfriend on this very forum... Originally Posted by Claire She Blows

Gotta link?

My money is on the same person who outed him to his girlfriend on this very forum: Originally Posted by Claire She Blows

Lmao. How can he be outed to his girlfriend when you said you ok'd him seeing other providers, and even surprised him and payed for them?

Sorry, but you shouldn't say you were his girlfriend. He was married, he can't have a girlfriend. You were always just a side chick. You finally realized it and tried and maybe even destroyed his marriage.

Because if you can't have him, that wife of his damn sure can't either.

Silly hooker, tricks aren't boyfriends!

Silly kicks, there are plenty of provider and hobbiest relationships. Most don't work out,but then again how many marriages or RW relationships work out, and some of these relationships do work out. I wonder what the the numbers are of both RW and provider/hobbiest successful and nonsuccessful relationships are. Are those numbers starting to get closer and closer together?