The Decline of the Hobby

All that to say, that for older hobbyists it may not be the hobby that’s changed...it’s us. Originally Posted by TinMan

If it all crashes down, at least the older Hobbyist can rightfully reminisce that ''in my day'' we had plentiful choices, and the hobby was great. Just like we say about music, ''in my day'' bands could sing, write and play, not like the garbage that is fed for your consumption today.

The younger guys will continue to push back, deny that their music sucks, but when ladies are not readily available, that won't be a source of argument, as it will be for sadness.

Well, we were definitely right about the music lol.

Too much GPS for shitty subpar service, especially from the younger providers. They are giving a big hand in the decline. The other is the hobbyist that pay for that bland service. Also hardened pros are very mechanical and robotic with their services with the obviously fake porn star act. Semi pros and non pros are becoming increasingly more popular these days.

Too much GPS for shitty subpar service, especially from the younger providers. They are giving a big hand in the decline. The other is the hobbyist that pay for that bland service. Also hardened pros are very mechanical and robotic with their services with the obviously fake porn star act. Semi pros and non pros are becoming increasingly more popular these days. Originally Posted by Mental AtrraXXXion

The pimp/ad reviewers in the past contributed the majority of that and then that led to embellished/fake reviews by the dick clique to keep the pimp's girls relevant and more bland service to actual hobbyists.

Very rare is it that a young girl gets into the provider business without help from the aforementioned pimps and jaded providers that pass that shitty attitude to the newbies they help out, telling them it is okay to do as white knights and other girls that do the same will have their back when a bad review or intel goes up on the boards about her below average service.

Pimps always existed in the hobby in one shape or form, it could be Tyrone collecting the tricks $ or a Bum BF that benefits from his girl getting porked by a bunch of older hairy men.

Pimps always existed in the hobby in one shape or form, it could be Tyrone collecting the tricks $ or a Bum BF that benefits from his girl getting porked by a bunch of older hairy men. Originally Posted by BLM69

Nothing wrong with pimps. One good thing about them is the TCB skills are always better. What I do not agree with is a pimp using Eccie as a platform to introduce his new to flack girls by posting a fake ad/review to bait business in the door. Then, when true hobbyists see this supposed great girl, she is not worth a shit BCD (BBBJ skills need improvement, she is a dead fish fuck, ect.), yet if you report this in a review, the pimp and his posse will throw you under the bus.

I always report the truth..... lots of no's in my reviews. But they do try and strike back... I think it's funny.

Nothing wrong with pimps. One good thing about them is the TCB skills are always better. What I do not agree with is a pimp using Eccie as a platform to introduce his new to flack girls by posting a fake ad/review to bait business in the door. Then, when true hobbyists see this supposed great girl, she is not worth a shit BCD (BBBJ skills need improvement, she is a dead fish fuck, ect.), yet if you report this in a review, the pimp and his posse will throw you under the bus. Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

Another thing could be that they get wore out quickly, hard to fake it when you had 3 other guys balls deep before you show up. I think most need BBBJ training, sucking only 3 inches should be a crime

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sucking only 3 inches should be a crime

amen!!! lol

HB 1540 will make buying sexual services a felony in Texas, so I expect the hobby to decline even more. Originally Posted by blastoff87

I sadly agree with you. I think police will be hyper-motivated to score felony arrests and will target ladies for arrest, and then offer them a deal or reduced sentence if she sets up clients.

It would only take one popular provider on P411 working with police in return for a reduced charge for herself, to set up dozens or more of her clients. She might offer a deep discount, and by that means police could make 50+ felony arrests on just one provider. The news would then label the men as predators. This is chilling.

I sadly agree with you. I think police will be hyper-motivated to score felony arrests and will target ladies for arrest, and then offer them a deal or reduced sentence if she sets up clients.

It would only take one popular provider on P411 working with police in return for a reduced charge for herself, to set up dozens or more of her clients. She might offer a deep discount, and by that means police could make 50+ felony arrests on just one provider. The news would then label the men as predators. This is chilling. Originally Posted by Buckwiser

That scenario happened in Oklahoma several years ago.

Many of you know me. If not from in person meeting than from being on the board/chat. For those that don't....42 bbw XY dna extraction specialist. I have maintained the same rates for 9 years. I have always advertised what you see is what you get. I have doubled with some of the best and tried to help some of the worst. I still do this because I love being a whore.

ABSOLUTELY there is a decline in the hobby. Not just lack of quality ladies, but quality gentlemen. And the ones in question are the ones who crawled from under the bp rocks expecting to find $50 anything goes. Some say ladies are jaded. How many of you gents are a little jaded and bitter? From some of the posts, several. Everyone has their breaking limit of what they will puy up with. We are tired of ncns, lowballing and no one wanting to screen. You guys are tired of the rise in rates, lack of skills and deposit requirements. We have a lack of advertising sites. Some of the sites changing how they do things. Eros is slowly dying and they did it to themselves. P411, current okays cannot be that hard to get, espcially if from someone who okayed you before. I will never understand eccie doing what they did. We can't advertise or even hint at rates but you guys can still review and mention them. TER is and always was a shitshow.

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ABSOLUTELY there is a decline in the hobby. Not just lack of quality ladies, but quality gentlemen. And the ones in question are the ones who crawled from under the bp rocks expecting to find $50 anything goes. Some say ladies are jaded. How many of you gents are a little jaded and bitter? From some of the posts, several. Everyone has their breaking limit of what they will put up with. We are tired of ncns, lowballing and no one wanting to screen. You guys are tired of the rise in rates, lack of skills and deposit requirements. We have a lack of advertising sites. Some of the sites changing how they do things. Eros is slowly dying and they did it to themselves. P411, current okays cannot be that hard to get, especially if from someone who okayed you before. I will never understand eccie doing what they did. We can't advertise or even hint at rates but you guys can still review and mention them. TER is and always was a shitshow. Originally Posted by GypsyHeart

Everything you said is true.

The quality of people are always going to have their bad apples. Not saying you, but this is for all providers. Instead of shunning away guys because you were gullible enough to believe what providers and other hobbyists who obviously have not been with a particular hobbyist BCD much less seen in person say or should you go with the ladies who have actually seen him for a session, you decided to talk to, set appointments with guys that do exactly what you say. Therefore, you get the NCNS, overstay their time, short you on the donation, demand services you do not provide and do not post a review after taking advantage of a review special guys. So, IMO, providers deserve what they get.

Coming from someone who has 140+ P411 OKs, a guy can get an OK on P411 from a provider he has seen before, but the number of OKs stays the same (you cannot get multiple OKs from a provider, she can only update her OK date). Now, an OK does not mean that they are your new friend or that you even meshed during your appointment, it does mean that the hobbyist set an appointment, payed the proper donation and respected her time and person, nothing more.

You want some advertising? You do know their are info exchange/review sites right? Give 100% effort to your client to show him a good time that makes him want to not only return to see you again, but tell other hobbyists via reviews and back channel info what a great time he had with you (BTW, the self reviews, pimp reviews and heavily embellished reviews do not count and are pretty clear as to what they are).

ALL providers have the skills to make a man feel glad he is a man BCD, but the fact of the matter is, most do not care to show that as they simply go through the motions, aka jaded as you have said, so during the session, you lay there like a corpse and do their lackluster broken record of "gotta get those activities in" appointment with zero passion. If you are THAT jaded, then instead of projecting a fake sense about you to bait business in the door just to fuck over a guy (and not in a good way) and all he is to you is nothing more than an ATM machine, it is time to retire from being a provider.

If a verified provider and have lots of time, phone is not ringing, 99% of the time see one time clients or even lack appointments, then it is not the quality of gentlemen.

Since I retired last year and moved west to a more religious state, and to a small town, hobbying is no longer on the table because it pretty much doesn't exist unless you make a trip to a large city. certainly hooking up with a lonely housewife is possible but soon everyone in town would know. I did return to Dallas in January but never had time for fun. I'll be back again in October but after reading this thread I'm not sure I'll find anything available without extra research.

Every few months I sign on to eccie, there seems to be very little interesting reading in any of the threads. And yes, I don't recognize any providers that I knew and visited. DFW must have gone thru big changes with the covid and maybe LE since I've left.

I'd be satisfied with a visit to a MP for just a HJ but sounds like those are on the way out? Maybe things will pick up as the economy grows and my October visit will be worth it.

It's not like it was back when it was good for providers and hobbyist alike, social get-to-gethers etc. Good times, hope they come back for you all.