Reasons for not seeing someone. Provider or Hobbyist

Within the last few days, I canceled my attempt to see a low profile lady. When I was communicating thru email, I use my typical language about me and why it would be fun to see me....marketing at work. All she did was contradict what I said and said why something else may be better.

I told her the advantages of seeing a young guy like me and I'm one of the nicest guys out there. Her only come back was to say how much the older guys do for her and they are sweeter. She compared me to a 20 yr old frat boy (i forgot the exact words b/c that conversation is deleted)...really? Complete insult if you ask me.

I ended up replying back that for 300/hr, i wanted someone more mature and appreciative.

Miss Scarlett asks, I'll answer. Some of you may find these comments to be spot-on, others may find them foolish. So Be it.

Reasons I would not see a provider.

• Her ad begins with a phrase like "Cum see me with your hard wood!" Uh, no.
• She says "I am new to this hobby and really enjoying it so far!" Well, so am I, let's try it again in a year once we both know what we are doing.
• "I'm a 19 year old hottie." A reflections of my age, when I was 22 a 19 year old might have seemed hot to me, but those days are past.
• hEr Me$$aGe &&&& Loox **likE** THIS@@@@@@
• Poor grammar: that can be a turnoff but I also realize that for some of the providers English is a second language so their messages may not read well, so this one alone is not a show stopper, but can be part of the process.
• An ad that says she is the absolute best I will ever find. Really? If you don't know what I am looking for, how do you know you are the best for me?
• If she is advertising BNG's, I'll pass.
• Price: is her price reasonable for the services offered? Do her reviews indicate this? If so, I may consider a provider at the higher end of the price range. If no reviews, or there are some negative ones, then no.
• Showcase. If there is no showcase, I have no interest. However, if I am bored and look at her reviews that all describe her as a knockout beauty, then maybe yes, but I prefer to actually see what she looks like.
• Showcase photos: some providers, and I can think of many good reasons they would do this, hide their face in the photo, while others show it. +1 for a facial shot (I'm talking about a photograph there! LOL!), but not a showstopper if none.
• There are six photos and they all show her ass. If she is a Greek specialist, totally appropriate. If she is not, then I worry that her ass may be the most attractive thing I will see
• Showcase photo: I click on it and the "enlarged" version that comes up is smaller than a postage stamp. If you don't care any more about your business than that, neither do it.
• No showcase, no reviews. She's operating too far UTR radar for me.
• Date of last activity: if it is more than 5 days ago, she may not be very interested in being a provider.
• Her posts in other area of the board, such as Coed, give me a look into her personality. It's a plus that she is actually part of the online community and posting in other areas, but some of the ladies are rude, insult other providers, and always seem to be in an argument. That is a definite turn off.
• Reviews indicate it is difficult to get in touch with her, text messages go unanswered, etc.

And now, in no particular order, some things that will attract me

• A well written ad
• Good price point
• Good photos in the showcase. I want to have a rough idea of what she looks like. I'm not looking for an absolute stunning knockout. My strip club experiences have taught me that many of those ladies have an attitude of "You're lucky to even be looking at me" and the dances have said as much. I will however read her reviews to see her service level and how she has treated clients in the past.
• Reviews are positive and indicate photos are accurate
• Age: if she is in her 30's or 40's (and possibly older in some cases,) I am interested. But that's just me. I have no doubt that there are some in the 20s who would amaze me.
• Comments like "not a clockwatcher" or "lots of fun to be with."
• She is an active member of the board and posts in other areas such as the Coed. I get a better idea of the lady's personality from reading those posts. Some ladies have a great sense of humor that comes through. Some are donating their time to Whispers' Christmas collection, which strikes me as a very caring act. Some may have messages that are not very well written, but they are active, and if another provider is insulted, they quickly spring to her defense; to me this indicates a passion for the hobby and and she gives a damn about others. Definite +1 for that.

I've found that research helps, and the board can answer many of my questions. I may need to read between the lines, but as they said in the X-Files, "The truth is out there." :-)

Within the last few days, I canceled my attempt to see a low profile lady. When I was communicating thru email, I use my typical language about me and why it would be fun to see me....marketing at work. All she did was contradict what I said and said why something else may be better.

I told her the advantages of seeing a young guy like me and I'm one of the nicest guys out there. Her only come back was to say how much the older guys do for her and they are sweeter. She compared me to a 20 yr old frat boy (i forgot the exact words b/c that conversation is deleted)...really? Complete insult if you ask me.

I ended up replying back that for 300/hr, i wanted someone more mature and appreciative.
Originally Posted by MoneyManMatt

Don't tell them your age unless they ask. Just the details of the appointment. Day, Time, Length, In or Out, and Refs. Anything more is taking up their time, and most of these ladies have 100+ to answer. They don't have time for back and forth.

ITsALLME shares my feelings and I use the same guidelines.

" I would be stressed out due to my competitive nature...thinking dang, I am going to have to stick a sparkler in ass or something to impress this one!!!"

Damn, Scarlett, if I had known that was on the menu I would have seen you sooner!

ITsALLME shares my feelings and I use the same guidelines. Originally Posted by dog soldier 4

Thanks for the comment.

Miss Scarlett asks, I'll answer. Some of you may find these comments to be spot-on, others may find them foolish. So Be it.

Reasons I would not see a provider.

• Her ad begins with a phrase like "Cum see me with your hard wood!" Uh, no.
• She says "I am new to this hobby and really enjoying it so far!" Well, so am I, let's try it again in a year once we both know what we are doing.
• "I'm a 19 year old hottie." A reflections of my age, when I was 22 a 19 year old might have seemed hot to me, but those days are past.
• hEr Me$$aGe &&&& Loox **likE** THIS@@@@@@
• Poor grammar: that can be a turnoff but I also realize that for some of the providers English is a second language so their messages may not read well, so this one alone is not a show stopper, but can be part of the process.
• An ad that says she is the absolute best I will ever find. Really? If you don't know what I am looking for, how do you know you are the best for me?
• If she is advertising BNG's, I'll pass.
• Price: is her price reasonable for the services offered? Do her reviews indicate this? If so, I may consider a provider at the higher end of the price range. If no reviews, or there are some negative ones, then no.
• Showcase. If there is no showcase, I have no interest. However, if I am bored and look at her reviews that all describe her as a knockout beauty, then maybe yes, but I prefer to actually see what she looks like.
• Showcase photos: some providers, and I can think of many good reasons they would do this, hide their face in the photo, while others show it. +1 for a facial shot (I'm talking about a photograph there! LOL!), but not a showstopper if none.
• There are six photos and they all show her ass. If she is a Greek specialist, totally appropriate. If she is not, then I worry that her ass may be the most attractive thing I will see
• Showcase photo: I click on it and the "enlarged" version that comes up is smaller than a postage stamp. If you don't care any more about your business than that, neither do it.
• No showcase, no reviews. She's operating too far UTR radar for me.
• Date of last activity: if it is more than 5 days ago, she may not be very interested in being a provider.
• Her posts in other area of the board, such as Coed, give me a look into her personality. It's a plus that she is actually part of the online community and posting in other areas, but some of the ladies are rude, insult other providers, and always seem to be in an argument. That is a definite turn off.
• Reviews indicate it is difficult to get in touch with her, text messages go unanswered, etc.

And now, in no particular order, some things that will attract me

• A well written ad
• Good price point
• Good photos in the showcase. I want to have a rough idea of what she looks like. I'm not looking for an absolute stunning knockout. My strip club experiences have taught me that many of those ladies have an attitude of "You're lucky to even be looking at me" and the dances have said as much. I will however read her reviews to see her service level and how she has treated clients in the past.
• Reviews are positive and indicate photos are accurate
• Age: if she is in her 30's or 40's (and possibly older in some cases,) I am interested. But that's just me. I have no doubt that there are some in the 20s who would amaze me.
• Comments like "not a clockwatcher" or "lots of fun to be with."
• She is an active member of the board and posts in other areas such as the Coed. I get a better idea of the lady's personality from reading those posts. Some ladies have a great sense of humor that comes through. Some are donating their time to Whispers' Christmas collection, which strikes me as a very caring act. Some may have messages that are not very well written, but they are active, and if another provider is insulted, they quickly spring to her defense; to me this indicates a passion for the hobby and and she gives a damn about others. Definite +1 for that.

I've found that research helps, and the board can answer many of my questions. I may need to read between the lines, but as they said in the X-Files, "The truth is out there." :-) Originally Posted by ItsAllMe

Wow. ..

A man who is as DETAIL oriented as myself...

I think I just fell in LOVE...

Your starstruck slave,

Guinevere

" I would be stressed out due to my competitive nature...thinking dang, I am going to have to stick a sparkler in ass or something to impress this one!!!"

Damn, Scarlett, if I had known that was on the menu I would have seen you sooner! Originally Posted by Jimfightsfire

Okay, but it's BYOS bring your own sparklers or smoke bombs!

Beautiful Slave Guinevere,


You are not the only one who is smitten! Can we share?

MMM,

Sometimes trying to convince a lady of all the good reasons to see you has the opposite effect. If you know you are awesome, no need to convince her. Her loss. That's just my opinion though.

Within the last few days, I canceled my attempt to see a low profile lady. When I was communicating thru email, I use my typical language about me and why it would be fun to see me....marketing at work. All she did was contradict what I said and said why something else may be better.

I told her the advantages of seeing a young guy like me and I'm one of the nicest guys out there. Her only come back was to say how much the older guys do for her and they are sweeter. She compared me to a 20 yr old frat boy (i forgot the exact words b/c that conversation is deleted)...really? Complete insult if you ask me.

I ended up replying back that for 300/hr, i wanted someone more mature and appreciative.
Originally Posted by MoneyManMatt

That's horrible! I for one like the younger guys - they're more willing to learn anything that I can teach them.

@itsallme

This is an extreme list! You surely eliminate 80% or more of providers, most of which are quality providers with bad marketing skills. Instead of denying them, I think you ought to become their consultant.

I do agree that 95% of your list are turn-offs, but most of us are obviously willing to look past bad pictures and hieroglyphs or they wouldn't keep doing it. Heck, there is some John out there who reads hieroglyphs and gets a chubby thinking, "damn, she's clever!"

Without a doubt, a bad showcase or ad is evidence that the provider does not have a thorough understanding of the ECCIE marketplace and has probably not spent any time looking through the ads or showcases of other providers and are just using the tactics employed on backpage.

Beautiful Slave Guinevere,


You are not the only one who is smitten! Can we share? Originally Posted by Scarlett Rossi

Sounds like a wonderful idea to me! SR call me with time and place! :-)

You are right, it is an extreme list. My money and time are limited, so I have to be picky.

Does this list cause me to miss out on some fabulous providers? I have no doubt that it does! But it works for me.

As you said, the next guy might enjoy the hieroglyphs. Or may find a lack of showcase to be appealing as it adds an air of mystery to the first meeting as he wonders what she looks like.

What works for one may not work for another.

I suspect that each guy has different expectations from a provider. One guy may love BNG, get in there, get it done, and leave. Some providers may also prefer that. Another client or provider may prefer to take more time, talk first, etc. In each case, everyone is right if the encounter goes as they hoped.

A year from now I may look back on my list and ask "What the hell was I thinking?" Or I may look back and say "That was a GREAT year!"

As long as we have fun and stay safe, it's all good. :-)

Okay, but it's BYOS bring your own sparklers or smoke bombs! Originally Posted by Scarlett Rossi

Scarlett…

I'll bring the SYBIAN and you bring the CHAMPAGNE!!

Your naughty slave,

Guinevere