Real World Info

Strippers, strip club waitresses, independents, AMP girls, subAmp girls, various Sugar Daddy websites and a surprising number of women from Twitter lately - hardest thing about them is they end up liking me which astounds me because I'm truly an asshole. (My screen name is meant to be ironic) Originally Posted by friendly fred

My friend if this astounds you then you may not really understand the nature of women. Lol!

My friend if this astounds you then you may not really understand the nature of women. Lol! Originally Posted by TheOracle

I've read about the psychology of it but it makes no sense. I personally hate assholes and don't like to be around them.

What's really weird are the women who act like you are not even worth spitting on until you shock them by not responding or wanting to do anything with them and then they start to think you are worth pursuing, like they underestimated you. Then they become very nice and starry eyed.

What's really weird are the women who act like you are not even worth spitting on until you shock them by not responding or wanting to do anything with them and then they start to think you are worth pursuing, like they underestimated you. Then they become very nice and starry eyed. Originally Posted by friendly fred

Not sure how all this relates to the hobby world. At least on ECCIE, everything is pretty much up front and understood.
Pursuing girls on other sites and twitter is a different game. Hit and miss' is pretty common.
But as far as what this thread is about, I guess you're saying you keep your RW information under wraps for those activities as well?

Maybe there is a connection.

Not sure how all this relates to the hobby world. At least on ECCIE, everything is pretty much up front and understood.
Pursuing girls on other sites and twitter is a different game. Hit and miss' is pretty common.
But as far as what this thread is about, I guess you're saying you keep your RW information under wraps for those activities as well?

Maybe there is a connection. Originally Posted by Torre Tames

Yes, I keep my real world information to myself with hookers and civilians from twitter and what not. The real world and this world have plenty of overlapping elements. Plenty of escorts get to like clients who are good to them and I don't blame them. As long as they keep a reasonable distance and answer my emails or messages in a reasonable time frame we can make it all work out just fine.
Numerous strippers and AMP girls and regular escorts like me as a customer and want to keep it going, and a few might even go further but they know it isn't in the cards nor is it a rational long term possibility.

They are better off without me, I assure you.

I noticed on your signature it says you don't see newbies. Is it because they're harder to screen or that they don't always know what proper etiquette is since they are new?

I have clients who I've seen for years and still do not know their RW name.
High Profile gentleman do not like to discuss their personal life, family, kids, where they live or work or any of that stuff.
We keep the conversations on the weather, sports, travel destinations and current news events.

As far as the comfort level ..... it isn't that I know their real name ..... it is how they conduct themselves on the board ..... or from first contact to the session.
Also, checking with the ladies they have visited in the past helps.

Fake names gives us our alternate identity, which is actually part of the fun of the fantasy. Originally Posted by Torre Tames

Good question Nicole.
I did see newbies earlier in my career, but now it's kinda like having the hots for your professor (me being the teacher).

I guess I just evolved to a place where it is more pleasurable for me to interact with gentlemen who are familiar with the hobby.
Yes, etiquette has much to do with it but I've learned the seasoned and more desired clients also know how to respect and compliment a lady in this field of work.

The phase of me "bringing up" newbies has passed.


Also, the screening can be a challenge ..... especially in this day in time when big brother is always peeking in. Never know if they are a nark.

I've known a few ladies RW info and decided to look them up, about 80% have a mug shot and a record. At least from my research and what falls into my lap. I will say that a few of them are well respected in the hobby. Originally Posted by BLM69

Or the yappers ...the ones that snitch on themselves...One whore from Houston kept talking and talking, she probably thought she was talking to some other trick and ratted herself out...She didn't even notice it..or did she?....She a high rate blonde too

Hmm. Interesting viewpoint. I went the exact opposite way. I see them in a completely different light. As I've evolved as a provider I've learned to really appreciate them. at least the ones that have the respect in turn I can give the patience to. I find it easy to connect with them as they haven't seen some of the ugly sides of of the hobby that causes some of the more seasoned gentleman to be jaded.

They probably make up 25% of my clientele




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Good question Nicole.
I did see newbies earlier in my career, but now it's kinda like having the hots for your professor (me being the teacher).

I guess I just evolved to a place where it is more pleasurable for me to interact with gentlemen who are familiar with the hobby.
Yes, etiquette has much to do with it but I've learned the seasoned and more desired clients also know how to respect and compliment a lady in this field of work.

The phase of me "bringing up" newbies has passed.


Also, the screening can be a challenge ..... especially in this day in time when big brother is always peeking in. Never know if they are a nark. Originally Posted by Torre Tames

If you don't wish to give out your personal info, go to another provider. Build references. If even with references from established providers, a lady still wants RW info from you, and you still don't want to give that info, THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GIRL.

Trying to argue the merits and downsides of trading RW info is silly. No logical argument will get anyone to change their minds. Originally Posted by grean

It's not about changing anyone's mind. It's about making sure the new guys and gals don't think that releasing RWI is normal or safe. It's a discussion about why it isn't safe, and why the alternatives are more effective for everyone.

No one should try and 'explain' to a provider how to screen when trying to book with her. You either abide by her process or politely decline and move on. Originally Posted by Brandofan

Absolutely. Her body. Her business. Her decision. Guys can take it or leave it.

I will say that when you politely decline, it might help to let her know that you're not willing to subject yourself to her screening process.

But when faced with a decision to share personal info with someone who could possibly blow up your personal and professional life through malicious intent or just careless indiscretion I think it is only fair to warn the OP and casual newb of the risks.

I like B3. Heck I sincerely hope to meet up with her someday and I can certainly understand her and Nicole's perspective regarding their personal safety. But I really don't care for the way she seems to be dismissing the concern from the male perspective. I understand that B3 is reputable. That is however BY FAR the exception, not the rule, and does not mean that it is safe in general to give out your RWI to providers.

Hopefully someday P411 will open up to new members. Until then my advice to newbs? Be patient, think with the big head, and find a newbie friendly provider. Maybe start with FBSM or stick with AMPs. But do not give your RWI without carefully considering the person with whom you are sharing it. Originally Posted by Brandofan

Absolute truth that every new hobbyist should take to heart.

I find it easy to connect with them as they haven't seen some of the ugly sides of of the hobby that causes some of the more seasoned gentleman to be jaded." Originally Posted by Nicole Cox

I can see where this would hold true.