Phony Presidential Outrage

It shows a defecit of intelligence to assume that everybody within a defined group acts and thinks exactly the same !

It shows a defecit of intelligence to assume that everybody within a defined group acts and thinks exactly the same ! Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Wrong again! However, there are those who might believe that it shows a "defecit of intelligence" to incorrectly spell the word deficit! ROTFLMAO

Just sayin'

You conveniently edited out the key Wiki phrase in the definiton you posted.....which shows how dishonest lefties are...and how far they will go to try to smear those they oppose....I added it in red !

The definition of a "social conservative," according to Wikipedia:

The accepted meaning of traditional morality often differs from group to group within social conservatism.Thus, there are really no policies or positions that could be considered universal among social conservatives. Social Conservatives generally favor the pro-life position in the abortion controversy; oppose all forms of and wish to ban embryonic stem cell research ; oppose both eugenics (inheritable genetic modification) and human enhancement (transhumanism) while supporting bioconservatism;[1] support a definition of marriage as being one man and one woman; view the nuclear family model as society's foundational unit; oppose expansion of civil marriage and child adoption rights to couples in same-sex relationships; promote public morality and traditional family values; oppose secularism and/or privatization of religious belief; support the prohibition of drugs, prostitution, premarital sex, non-marital sex and euthanasia; and support the censorship of pornography and what they consider to be obscenity or indecency.


Whirly, I will say the following with a great degree of certainty. If you are a "social conservative" as you claim, you have no business being a willing participant on an adult hobby board?. On the other hand, if you are not really a "social conservative" while claiming that you are, than I am going to call it like I see it.
Originally Posted by bigtex

You conveniently edited out the key Wiki phrase in the definiton you posted.....which shows how dishonest lefties are...and how far they will go to try to smear those they oppose....I added it in red ! Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Whirly, you can run but you can't hide! You either fall in the "social conservative" category as you claim or you're not a "social conservative." When it comes to the adult hobby as it relates to ["public morality, traditional family values, support of prostitution, premarital sex, non-marital sex and supporting the censorship of pornography" and what is generally considered by all (not most) "social conserviatives" to be "obscenity and indecency,"] there is no in between!

Whirly, the evidence against you is overwhelming and quite frankly there is no gray area. As long as you are a willing participant on an adult hobby board, you fall in the "not a social conservative" category, just like everyone else who willingly is an adult hobby board participant! The mere fact that you wrongly make the claim to be one, does not make you a "social conservative!" By the same token, I can make the claim on this board that I am a millionaire, many times over. But at the end of the day, I still have to pay my fair share of taxes, therefore I must not be a millionaire! Get my drift? Or did that also go over your head?

Before you ask, I promise to not try your deceptive tactics: I will readily admit that I am not a "social conservative!"

So basically you're just gonna ignore your own definition of social conservatism? Makes no sense to me, but go ahead and play the fool.

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Whirly, you can run but you can't hide! You either fall in the "social conservative" category as you claim or you not a "social conservative." When it comes to adult hobbying, prostitution, etc. there is no in between. As long as you are a willing participant on an adult hobby board, you fall in the "not a social conservative" category, just like everyone (myself included) who willingly participates on this board!

At least I admit that I am not a "social conservative!" Originally Posted by bigtex

but go ahead and play the fool.

... Originally Posted by Whirlaway

It does me no good to even apply. You have already wrapped up the job as ECCIE's lead "fool!

The best I can hope for is to be the back up!

Based on toe-tapping social conservatives like Larry Craig, and diaper-wearing social conservatives like David Vitter, I'd guess that the definition of 'social conservative' is someone who preaches one thing as a virtue for others while secretly engaging in the opposite when he thinks no one's watching.

Based on toe-tapping social conservatives like Larry Craig, and diaper-wearing social conservatives like David Vitter, I'd guess that the definition of 'social conservative' is someone who preaches one thing as a virtue for others while secretly engaging in the opposite when he thinks no one's watching. Originally Posted by TheTexasTornado

And given how much time he spends on here, it wouldn't surprise me if the dude is living off welfare. Which, frankly, would probably turn me into a conservative.

Based on toe-tapping social conservatives like Larry Craig, and diaper-wearing social conservatives like David Vitter, I'd guess that the definition of 'social conservative' is someone who preaches one thing as a virtue for others while secretly engaging in the opposite when he thinks no one's watching. Originally Posted by TheTexasTornado

Nope! The above is how you define a hypocrite! And before you ask, Whirly also falls in that category!

Whirly, you can run but you can't hide! You either fall in the "social conservative" category as you claim or you're not a "social conservative." When it comes to the adult hobby as it relates to ["public morality, traditional family values, support of prostitution, premarital sex, non-marital sex and supporting the censorship of pornography" and what is generally considered by all (not most) "social conserviatives" to be "obscenity and indecency,"] there is no in between!

Whirly, the evidence against you is overwhelming and quite frankly there is no gray area. As long as you are a willing participant on an adult hobby board, you fall in the "not a social conservative" category, just like everyone else who willingly is an adult hobby board participant! The mere fact that you wrongly make the claim to be one, does not make you a "social conservative!" By the same token, I can make the claim on this board that I am a millionaire, many times over. But at the end of the day, I still have to pay my fair share of taxes, therefore I must not be a millionaire! Get my drift? Or did that also go over your head?

Before you ask, I promise to not try your deceptive tactics: I will readily admit that I am not a "social conservative!" Originally Posted by bigtex

Bigtex, you presume to define Whirly and tell him who he is? Who gives you that right? Your post represents exactly the type of snobbish, condescending position for which socialist elitists are infamous.

It shows a defecit of intelligence to assume that everybody within a defined group acts and thinks exactly the same ! Originally Posted by Whirlaway

While I agree with the statement, although I would have stated it differently, I find it shocking and very hypocritical coming from you. Need I go back and show you the numerous times, in your anti-Obama threads, how many times you lumped all liberals, and/or dems, into thinking or believing a certain way? I B is just as guilty with his favorite term, dimocrats. Anyone using republicans in the same way is just as wrong.

This is a major reason why politics and our government is so fucked up, not to mention the brain dead people who blindly follow them and pundit party rhetoric. They're so fixated on hating, or dismissing anything the opposite party does, says or offers. People have become close minded and that often translates to less informed. We are far from the country we once were, while even if we disagreed, we still were willing to talk, listen and attempt to come up with a compromise. Those days are long gone. The intelligence of the people in our country is getting worse, as our public education system worsens.

If the so-called intelligent people, including our leaders, continue to play the blame game and search more for what's wrong and how fucked up the other side is, rather than try to find ways to work and figure out how to fix our problems, those problems will only get worse.

Whirly, the noises in your head don't bother me, it's the links to them you post that do.

Bigtex, you presume to define Whirly and tell him who he is? Who gives you that right? Your post represents exactly the type of snobbish, condescending position for which socialist elitists are infamous. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I B, what is the definition of socialists elitists? Since you lumped them together for having snobbish, condescending positions, I'd like to know who they are.

As for BT and his questioning and calling Whirly out for describing himself a social conservative, in some respects BT has a point. A social conservative's social mores would most likely be against prostitution and adultry, and therefore makes the inquiry as to what Whirl is doing on a hooker board with those beliefs, legitimate. Being on here is one thing, hobbying another. We know there are those of all walks doing what we do. I think he's pointing out more of Whirl's hypocrisy.

I think he's pointing out more of Whirl's hypocrisy. Originally Posted by surcher

In fact, I specifically pointed out Whirly's hypocrisy several times in this thread alone.

As for Whirly's participation in the hobby, I have no problem with it. I would be hypocritical to feel otherwise. But trying to pass himself off as a social conservative when he has 21 adult hobby board reviews to his credit over an 18 month period, is seriously crossing over the "social conservative" line. By anyones definition (with the exception of Whirly and IB) those are not the actions of a true social conservative. By the same token, had Whirly attempted to make the claim that he was a socially moderate/fiscal conservative, I would have had no reason to question the statement.

Being an active and frequent participant in the adult hobby world while trying to make a futile claim that you are a social conservative is no different than actively advocating against gun-rights legislation while being a card carrying/gun totin' member of the NRA. "Never the twain shall meet!"

IB, do you also tell "whoppers" about being one of those new-breed adult hobby enthusiasts/social conservatives or do you prefer to just go ahead and tell the truth from the beginning? ROTFLMAO

blah blah blah...socialist elitists...blah blah blah Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Now there's an intelligent argument. Please tell us the one about the Muslim terrorist Kenyan Messiah anti-Christ. I loved that story.

First off thank you BigTX for recognizing my 21 reviews, all of Premium AA ass, but BigTx, you're delusional..you are using the term SC to brand me a hypocrite, but you ignore your own definiton of SC, posted by you ! The Wiki definition of SC clearly states...

"The accepted meaning of traditional morality often differs from group to group within social conservatism. Thus, there are really no policies or positions that could be considered universal among social conservatives. Social Conservativesgenerally favor........ "

Either your dishonest or dumb as rocks to not understand that within SC (or any other movement), people agree and disagree on things.

Are you so fucking rigid in your life dude that you have to have everything inside the box?

And your whole NRA thing illustrates my point. Not everybody who is a card carrying member of the NRA agrees with everything the NRA does - I am one! I don't know what lesson you missed growing up, but newsflash , you need to go back to school for remedial studies, otherwise I feel sorry for you guy.

First off thank you BigTX for recognizing my 21 reviews, all of Premium AA ass. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

If they were "all of Premium" quality, why did you give 4 of them negative reviews? Or was this yet another example of a Whirly "play on words?"

Just sayin'

BigTx, you're delliusonal. Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Is "delliusonal" a new word? I was unable to find it in my online dictionary!

Quick, somebody dust off the trusty ol' Funk and Wagnalls, I believe I might need it!