Still don't believe he's a muslim?

Under, I think you gorget who you are trying to argue logicly with. This is IB, the poorest reader in captivity. Of course he ignores parts of speaches he doesn't agree with, and he will intentionally misstate what YOU said and blame you for not saying what he thinks you should have said.

The man (?) has never admitted an error even when his fraudulent "quotes" are laid bare in front of him. Don't expect have m to change now just because you caught him in another dubious illogical statement. HE says he heard something that wasn't there. How dare you contradict him even though no one can point to the words he says were there. Ask explicitly and he spews fiction.

But what can you really squeeze from a turnip? He claims slavery was a moral activity and thinks the killing of millions of Native Americans with European diseases was somehow the native americans' fault--it certainly wasn't the Europeans' fault in his way of thinking. He'll likely repeat some form of that within 60 seconds of reading my post here, even though I am talking to you, not him. THAT is what you are trying to logically argue with. Good luck.

Under, I think you gorget who you are trying to argue logicly with. This is IB, the poorest reader in captivity. Of course he ignores parts of speaches he doesn't agree with, and he will intentionally misstate what YOU said and blame you for not saying what he thinks you should have said.

The man (?) has never admitted an error even when his fraudulent "quotes" are laid bare in front of him. Don't expect have m to change now just because you caught him in another dubious illogical statement. HE says he heard something that wasn't there. How dare you contradict him even though no one can point to the words he says were there. Ask explicitly and he spews fiction.

But what can you really squeeze from a turnip? He claims slavery was a moral activity and thinks the killing of millions of Native Americans with European diseases was somehow the native americans' fault--it certainly wasn't the Europeans' fault in his way of thinking. He'll likely repeat some form of that within 60 seconds of reading my post here, even though I am talking to you, not him. THAT is what you are trying to logically argue with. Good luck. Originally Posted by Old-T

He's a troll, I know. It's like a punching bag. Sometimes you just want to get some work in, you know?

Name one fact you've stated since we started this discussion. I'll clue you in, you can't, because there haven't been any. It's all your opinion. When did he lie? Christianity has had awful atrocities committed in its name. That's not a fucking lie and you know it isn't. I've owned you at every turn. It's like a chess match where the other person is defeated but doesn't know it yet. You're wrong. And what's worse, you know you're wrong. Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

FACTS! IB don't need no stinking FACTS. He makes them up as he goes.

Name one fact you've stated since we started this discussion. I'll clue you in, you can't, because there haven't been any. It's all your opinion. When did he lie? Christianity has had awful atrocities committed in its name. That's not a fucking lie and you know it isn't. I've owned you at every turn. It's like a chess match where the other person is defeated but doesn't know it yet. You're wrong. And what's worse, you know you're wrong. Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

FACT: Muslim atrocities during the Crusades were as numerous and equal to or greater in magnitude to any atrocity Odumbo might attribute to Christians. Odumbo lied by omission when he didn't mention that fact. FACT: Islamic jihad lasted for fourteen centuries, while the Crusades only lasted about two hundred years. Odumbo lied by omission when he didn't mention that fact. FACT: this is 2015, not 1492. Odumbo is being mendacious when he compares those two distinctly different eras.

He's a troll, I know. It's like a punching bag. Sometimes you just want to get some work in, you know? Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

This is a man I can work with! Sir, YOU understand IB! (Scary as that might be).

Under, I think you gorget who you are trying to argue logicly with. This is IB, the poorest reader in captivity. Of course he ignores parts of speaches he doesn't agree with, and he will intentionally misstate what YOU said and blame you for not saying what he thinks you should have said.

The man (?) has never admitted an error even when his fraudulent "quotes" are laid bare in front of him. Don't expect have m to change now just because you caught him in another dubious illogical statement. HE says he heard something that wasn't there. How dare you contradict him even though no one can point to the words he says were there. Ask explicitly and he spews fiction.

But what can you really squeeze from a turnip? He claims slavery was a moral activity and thinks the killing of millions of Native Americans with European diseases was somehow the native americans' fault--it certainly wasn't the Europeans' fault in his way of thinking. He'll likely repeat some form of that within 60 seconds of reading my post here, even though I am talking to you, not him. THAT is what you are trying to logically argue with. Good luck. Originally Posted by Old-T

Your trollish stalking characteristics are in full bloom again, Old-THUMPER.

He's a troll, I know. It's like a punching bag. Sometimes you just want to get some work in, you know? Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

You're inside the bag and can't make an intellectual break through, jackass. You've done nothing but regurgitate Odumbos lies, jackass. Since you and Odumbo want to equate the 21st century with the 14th or 15th centuries, why don't you two enjoy a 14th century frontal lobotomy together.

FACTS! IB don't need no stinking FACTS. He makes them up as he goes. Originally Posted by Old-T

You wouldn't know a fact if it crawled up your ass and bit you on your balls, Old-THUMPER.

This is a man I can work with! Sir, YOU understand IB! (Scary as that might be). Originally Posted by Old-T

Yeah, Old-THUMPER, you like your men well "#Grubered" and lib-retarded.

FACT: Muslim atrocities during the Crusades were as numerous and equal to or greater in magnitude to any atrocity Odumbo might attribute to Christians. Odumbo lied by omission when he didn't mention that fact. FACT: Islamic jihad lasted for fourteen centuries, while the Crusades only lasted about two hundred years. Odumbo lied by omission when he didn't mention that fact. FACT: this is 2015, not 1492. Odumbo is being mendacious when he compares those two distinctly different eras.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Your fault lies in the fact you think he's comparing them. You've missed the point entirely, which doesn't surprise me, but it's frustrating to be sure. It's not a contest to see who can take their religion and use it for the worst. You know what hasn't changed since that era, or since we crawled out of the ooze really; man is the same as he's always been. 1492, 2015 or 2800, same shit, different day. All it tells me is we are capable of despicable acts against our fellow man due to fear. Fear of anything different or that we can't understand. We hate having to deal with the fact that you are born, you live and then you die, that we have created mythic narratives that have us living forever in some paradise or another. That's how fucked up we are. That's how badly we need to attribute meaning to something. You're a grain of sand. We're nothing in the grand scheme of things. The fact you get so worked up and butthurt over Obama and what he's done is a fucking riot to me. I'm laughing my ass off. Spouting off what happened when and all that bullshit, like any of it matters.

This is a man I can work with! Sir, YOU understand IB! (Scary as that might be). Originally Posted by Old-T

I'm fluent in dumbass. As well as shitsipper. And I can get by in liberal fucktard but not great.

Your fault lies in the fact you think he's comparing them. You've missed the point entirely, which doesn't surprise me, but it's frustrating to be sure. It's not a contest to see who can take their religion and use it for the worst. You know what hasn't changed since that era, or since we crawled out of the ooze really; man is the same as he's always been. 1492, 2015 or 2800, same shit, different day. All it tells me is we are capable of despicable acts against our fellow man due to fear. Fear of anything different or that we can't understand. We hate having to deal with the fact that you are born, you live and then you die, that we have created mythic narratives that have us living forever in some paradise or another. That's how fucked up we are. That's how badly we need to attribute meaning to something. You're a grain of sand. We're nothing in the grand scheme of things. The fact you get so worked up and butthurt over Obama and what he's done is a fucking riot to me. I'm laughing my ass off. Spouting off what happened when and all that bullshit, like any of it matters. Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

You're the one lying and obfuscating. Odumbo DID compare the two, and the fact that your a "#Grubered" Odumbo minion that swallows Odumbo's Kool Aid is not at all surprising.

SIZE="1"]I'm fluent in dumbass. As well as shitsipper. And I can get by in liberal fucktard but not great.[/SIZE] Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

And that's precisely why you voted for Odumbo.

Your trollish stalking characteristics are in full bloom again, Old-THUMPER.



You're inside the bag and can't make an intellectual break through, jackass. You've done nothing but regurgitate Odumbos lies, jackass. Since you and Odumbo want to equate the 21st century with the 14th or 15th centuries, why don't you two enjoy a 14th century frontal lobotomy together.




You wouldn't know a fact if it crawled up your ass and bit you on your balls, Old-THUMPER.




Yeah, Old-THUMPER, you like your men well "#Grubered" and lib-retarded.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Grubered?

I never said I wanted to equate the two eras. Never said it. I've said the entire time he was merely pointing out that no religion is blameless. You haven't ever agreed that's true, even though it plainly is. It's an incontrovertible fact so in turn you have to take his words and twist them, because otherwise you have no argument. You've said the same fucking thing about 10 times in a row now. Get some new material.

Grubered?

I never said I wanted to equate the two eras. Never said it. I've said the entire time he was merely pointing out that no religion is blameless. You haven't ever agreed that's true, even though it plainly is. It's an incontrovertible fact so in turn you have to take his words and twist them, because otherwise you have no argument. You've said the same fucking thing about 10 times in a row now. Get some new material. Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

You're a liar when you claim your not trying to defend Odumbo's lies, and Odumbo very clearly DID equate two distinctly different eras.

You're a liar when you claim your not trying to defend Odumbo's lies, and Odumbo very clearly DID equate two distinctly different eras.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering

He equated two eras? So fucking what? That's what you're all up in arms about? Goddamn, you're all over the place. I'm not defending Obama, I'm arguing for what's correct. If I thought your position was correct, I'd be arguing for it, but it's not, so I'm not. You're incorrect in your reading of his speech, plain and simple. You aren't objective. You dislike the guy and you would find anything wrong with anything he said. I don't give a flying fuck if he equated two different eras. Man hasn't changed, ever. We are the same despicable fucks we've always been. Where is it written you can't equate two different eras? Where? Show it to me. And if it's only in your moth-ridden brain, that doesn't count.

He equated two eras? So fucking what? That's what you're all up in arms about? Goddamn, you're all over the place. I'm not defending Obama, I'm arguing for what's correct. If I thought your position was correct, I'd be arguing for it, but it's not, so I'm not. You're incorrect in your reading of his speech, plain and simple. You aren't objective. You dislike the guy and you would find anything wrong with anything he said. I don't give a flying fuck if he equated two different eras. Man hasn't changed, ever. We are the same despicable fucks we've always been. Where is it written you can't equate two different eras? Where? Show it to me. And if it's only in your moth-ridden brain, that doesn't count. Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

This is 2015; not 1492, that's "so fucking what!" You're defending a liar, ipso facto you're a liar. BTW, you're also still a "#Grubered" Odumbo minion that swallows Odumbo's Kool Aid.

This is 2015; not 1492, that's "so fucking what!" You're defending a liar, ipso facto you're a liar. BTW, you're also still a "#Grubered" Odumbo minion that swallows Odumbo's Kool Aid. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

I'm still not sure why the year matters. Here's the question that we should be asking; man was killing his fellow man in the name of religion (take your fucking pick as to which one, they were all doing it) a thousand years ago. Fast forward to 2015 and it's still going on. Have we not learned a goddamn thing in a thousand years? Have we not evolved past needing to tell ourselves bedtime stories in order to make it through life? That's the sad part. Even sadder than your dumbass. (I'm positing that it's because people like you keep breeding with whoever you can find and thus depleting the gene pool even more, leading to a country filled with people who are willing to believe a mass delusion fostered by cognitive dissonance. Now if you need to google any of those words, you go right ahead. I'll wait...

I'm still not sure why the year matters. Here's the question that we should be asking; man was killing his fellow man in the name of religion (take your fucking pick as to which one, they were all doing it) a thousand years ago. Fast forward to 2015 and it's still going on. Have we not learned a goddamn thing in a thousand years? Have we not evolved past needing to tell ourselves bedtime stories in order to make it through life? That's the sad part. Even sadder than your dumbass. (I'm positing that it's because people like you keep breeding with whoever you can find and thus depleting the gene pool even more, leading to a country filled with people who are willing to believe a mass delusion fostered by cognitive dissonance. Now if you need to google any of those words, you go right ahead. I'll wait... Originally Posted by UnderConstruction

Buy a history book and read about the advances in civilization that have been made between 1492 and 2015, jackass. It's people like you and Odumbo who delude the masses with false history.