If Election held today, Bernie beats Trump

So you favor govt intervention in private business? Capitalism isn't even geared for equal opportunity you fucking idiot. Do you care about poverty? What would YOU do about it? You haven't answered that yet. Too stupid? Originally Posted by WombRaider

The Libertarian position, with which I agree, is that no one should be able to take anyone else's life, liberty or property by force or fraud. Crony capitalists and monopolistic corporations are perpetrating a fraud, so yes, government should intervene, through the courts to stop them.


What would I do? First, I would pass the FairTax. That takes enormous amounts of power out of the hands of the elitists and their puppet politicians. Secondly, I would end the FED and put our money in a sound, value backed system. Thirdly, I would repeal the 17th Amendment, and once again give the states a voice in national affairs. I would also eliminate all federal spending not strictly authorized by the Constitution. Some would have to eliminated over time, but eliminated for sure. I would eliminate all federal bureaucracies except except the Departments of Defense and State. The Defense Department budget would be cut dramatically. No foreign aid. None. Especially when we have to borrow it to give it. I would eliminate all federal drug laws. Let the entrepreneurs make the money, instead of the criminals.


Then on my second day . . .


Well, you asked what I'd do.

The Libertarian position, with which I agree, is that no one should be able to take anyone else's life, liberty or property by force or fraud. Crony capitalists and monopolistic corporations are perpetrating a fraud, so yes, government should intervene, through the courts to stop them.


What would I do? First, I would pass the FairTax. That takes enormous amounts of power out of the hands of the elitists and their puppet politicians. Secondly, I would end the FED and put our money in a sound, value backed system. Thirdly, I would repeal the 17th Amendment, and once again give the states a voice in national affairs. I would also eliminate all federal spending not strictly authorized by the Constitution. Some would have to eliminated over time, but eliminated for sure. I would eliminate all federal bureaucracies except except the Departments of Defense and State. The Defense Department budget would be cut dramatically. No foreign aid. None. Especially when we have to borrow it to give it. I would eliminate all federal drug laws. Let the entrepreneurs make the money, instead of the criminals.


Then on my second day . . .


Well, you asked what I'd do. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Hogwash!

A great place for you to start would be to quit being a Welshing Idiot!

Pay up on the "wager", Idiot!

You're employing the IB chicken shit school of posting, now. The US doesn't determine the economic system that other countries follow. I apply the cunt label, because it applies to YOU. What I don't care about, is anything you've got to say on the matter. You're warped, fudgepacker. Originally Posted by WombRaider

You only listen to and repeat what Odumbo tells you to listen to and repeat, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. To advance his political agenda, Odumbo arbitrarily changed the definition of *poverty*, and by doing so, Odumbo increased the number of people *living in poverty* on his watch, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. And you unquestioningly swallowed his definition and regurgitate on command, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

You're employing the IB chicken shit school of posting, now. The US doesn't determine the economic system that other countries follow. Originally Posted by WombRaider

No, we don't determine their economic systems. If we did, then they would follow our capitalist example and lift more of their people out of poverty. So what's your point - you don't have to care about global poverty because other countries made bad stupid choices that keep their people poor? Ok, I'll buy that. Just quit pretending you're better than everyone else when you really don't care.

I apply the cunt label, because it applies to YOU. What I don't care about, is anything you've got to say on the matter. You're warped, fudgepacker. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Hahahaha.... you have no arguments, you can't answer the simplest of questions, you're bankrupt and your ass is painfully reamed out again.... gee, it must be time to employ the sewer rat school of posting, call names and pretend you don't care.... hahahaha....

Actually, you are the one who is "fucking stupid" - but we already know that. Your stupidity lights up like a neon light whenever you try to talk about economics. Your generalizations are useless. Some companies are labor-intensive, others aren't. Some companies require high-skilled workers, others rely on unskilled labor. Some companies face strong foreign competition, others don't. Any economist will tell you there are a host of variables that influence wage levels in different industries. Only an ignorant dipshit like you would insist "it all comes down to greed".

If I am the CEO of a US company watching my sales, profits and market share plummet because low-wage foreign competitors are eating my lunch, and I look at the numbers and decide to outsource half the jobs in an attempt to save the other half, am I motivated by GREED or SURVIVAL?

That's a typical decision people in the real world have to make. But then, you and Bernie Sanders know nothing about the real world!

. Originally Posted by lustylad

Huh? What's the matter, sewer rat, why can't you answer the questions? If income redistribution is good for the US, then it should be even better for the entire planet! Right? I mean, why stop at our borders? And if the 1% in this country is being greedy because it doesn't want to surrender its income to fund the government's inept redistribution schemes, then isn't the global 1% just as greedy if it objects to a global redistribution scheme? Or do you apply the "greed" label selectively to ensure that it only pertains to others but not you?

I'm beginning to think you don't really care about ending world poverty and inequality, do you sewer rat? What a greedy, stone-hearted bastard you are!

. Originally Posted by lustylad

No, we don't determine their economic systems. If we did, then they would follow our capitalist example and lift more of their people out of poverty. So what's your point - you don't have to care about global poverty because other countries made bad stupid choices that keep their people poor? Ok, I'll buy that. Just quit pretending you're better than everyone else when you really don't care.




Hahahaha.... you have no arguments, you can't answer the simplest of questions, you're bankrupt and your ass is painfully reamed out again.... gee, it must be time to employ the sewer rat school of posting, call names and pretend you don't care.... hahahaha....

Originally Posted by lustylad

Lifted people out of poverty? And placed them straight into debt. Through advertising and planned obsolescence, capitalism and greed have brought us to where we are. Leveraged to the fucking hilt. Yeah, great system.

You only listen to and repeat what Odumbo tells you to listen to and repeat, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. To advance his political agenda, Odumbo arbitrarily changed the definition of *poverty*, and by doing so, Odumbo increased the number of people *living in poverty* on his watch, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. And you unquestioningly swallowed his definition and regurgitate on command, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

So to advance his agenda, he actually increased the number of poor? He didn't change the definition of poverty. Poverty still means the same thing.

The Libertarian position, with which I agree, is that no one should be able to take anyone else's life, liberty or property by force or fraud. Crony capitalists and monopolistic corporations are perpetrating a fraud, so yes, government should intervene, through the courts to stop them.


What would I do? First, I would pass the FairTax. That takes enormous amounts of power out of the hands of the elitists and their puppet politicians. Secondly, I would end the FED and put our money in a sound, value backed system. Thirdly, I would repeal the 17th Amendment, and once again give the states a voice in national affairs. I would also eliminate all federal spending not strictly authorized by the Constitution. Some would have to eliminated over time, but eliminated for sure. I would eliminate all federal bureaucracies except except the Departments of Defense and State. The Defense Department budget would be cut dramatically. No foreign aid. None. Especially when we have to borrow it to give it. I would eliminate all federal drug laws. Let the entrepreneurs make the money, instead of the criminals.


Then on my second day . . .


Well, you asked what I'd do. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I could actually get behind a lot of that, but the problem is it would take generations to accomplish and that's why I keep telling you it won't ever happen. No party can hold power long enough to bring about changes on that scale. Once the power swings back the other way, they will undo parts of what was done, then it's just the same fight all over again. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying it's not realistically possible with our current system.

" I act locally, donating time and money to worthy causes that impact people's lives on a daily basis." So you're a humanitarian for allowing one customer a week a freebie fudge packing on you and you give them a goods "slurpie " down at the 'holes ? And the only people "impacted" on a daily basis for your "it takes a village" approach is you. You must have a constant problem with "impaction" of your fudge , huh woomby / undercunt / rusty balloon knot / wanna-be jalapeno sucker ! Try drinking a cup or two of mineral oil in the morning before you start your shift down at Talleywackers or the other 'holes in your franchise. That ought to help with the " impact " of your magnanimous "donation". And it isn't "giving money to a worthy cause" " to give away your wypies for the freebie cleanup .

" I act locally, donating time and money to worthy causes that impact people's lives on a daily basis." So you're a humanitarian for allowing one customer a week a freebie fudge packing on you and you give them a goods "slurpie " down at the 'holes ? And the only people "impacted" on a daily basis for your "it takes a village" approach is you. You must have a constant problem with "impaction" of your fudge , huh woomby / undercunt / rusty balloon knot / wanna-be jalapeno sucker ! Try drinking a cup or two of mineral oil in the morning before you start your shift down at Talleywackers or the other 'holes in your franchise. That ought to help with the " impact " of your magnanimous "donation". And it isn't "giving money to a worthy cause" " to give away your wypies for the freebie cleanup . Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

Sounds like you're well versed in how to take care of a packed ass. You're a tiresome turd, but then you know that.

You only listen to and repeat what Odumbo tells you to listen to and repeat, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. To advance his political agenda, Odumbo arbitrarily changed the definition of *poverty*, and by doing so, Odumbo increased the number of people *living in poverty* on his watch, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. And you unquestioningly swallowed his definition and regurgitate on command, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

So woomby is a swallower AND a spitter ? ! His ads down at Talleywackers don't mention that as an option. Is it an "upcharge" if he spits ? And his past posts on here say that he's a swallower. It must depend on what type of cock he's working over. bet he doesn't spit if it's jalapeno cock !!!

So woomby is a swallower AND a spitter ? ! His ads down at Talleywackers don't mention that as an option. Is it an "upcharge" if he spits ? And his past posts on here say that he's a swallower. It must depend on what type of cock he's working over. bet he doesn't spit if it's jalapeno cock !!! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

I'd spit yours right back in your face

Lifted people out of poverty? And placed them straight into debt. Through advertising and planned obsolescence, capitalism and greed have brought us to where we are. Leveraged to the fucking hilt. Yeah, great system. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Poor widdle woomby.... you need to stop fretting about all that student debt you racked up to smoke pot and flunk out of Dogpatch Community College. Odumbo pushed the private lenders out of the picture so now you're just dealing with the feds. Odumbo and Bernie will be happy to write off all those loans in return for your vote! So stop worrying! You won't have to work triple shifts down at Tallywackers and the gloryholes just to pay taxpayers back for all those loans.

And if "planned obsolescence" bothers you, just tell Bernie to campaign on a promise that you and everyone else with an Obama phone will get a free upgrade to an iphone 6! Don't be a pussy, woomby! Make American capitalism work for you!



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Poor widdle woomby.... you need to stop fretting about all that student debt you racked up to smoke pot and flunk out of Dogpatch Community College. Odumbo pushed the private lenders out of the picture so now you're just dealing with the feds. Odumbo and Bernie will be happy to write off all those loans in return for your vote! So stop worrying! You won't have to work triple shifts down at Tallywackers and the gloryholes just to pay back taxpayers for your loans.

And if "planned obsolescence" bothers you, just tell Bernie to campaign on a promise that everyone with an Obama phone will get a free upgrade to an iphone 6! Don't be a pussy, woomby! Make American capitalism work for you!



. Originally Posted by lustylad

You think I'm 40 and still have student loan debts? Jesus Christ, you're fucking stupid. Those shits got paid off long ago.

Ok, you want me to answer you like a hard-boiled capitalist? You shouldn't have gotten into that business or at least had the foresight to see the eventual moving of jobs overseas. You fucked up, now tough shit. What does it matter what motivates you if the outcome is the same? And I'm not talking about mom and pop companies. I'm talking about Exxon Mobil, etc. For them, it does all come down to greed. If you think it's about anything other than profits, you're dumber than I already think you are.

Whether a company's product is labor intensive, requiring highly skilled labor, etc, the focus is on profit, yes? Can we at least make that generalization?

You know what light blinks when you talk? The red one over your stall at the gloryhole when it comes on, signaling you're ready for the next poor sap to put his dick through the hole so you can take it in your gaping maw. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Gee woomby, is that how YOU do it down at your franchises and Talleywackers ? ! With the red light ? ! You're giving away all your "trade secrets" there woomby ! How are you going to remain the gloryhole king of Arkansas if you give away all those secrets. Trying to be like Shrillary again and sell those secrets for some "donations" to YOUR cause woomby ? ! You won't stay in busimess long that way ! Your painfully lacking understanding of business and finance is ONCE AGAIN showing through ! No wonder you can never establish roots of your own and have to stay in your Momma / sisters basement to live. And since you have a hearing problem from all those minor concussions from bouncing off those stall walls, you should get yourself a buzzer or an "AAhOOGAH" horn to let you know that it's time to pucker up and drop your Depends again for the next jalapeno cock !!!

I could actually get behind a lot of that, but the problem is it would take generations to accomplish and that's why I keep telling you it won't ever happen. No party can hold power long enough to bring about changes on that scale. Once the power swings back the other way, they will undo parts of what was done, then it's just the same fight all over again. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying it's not realistically possible with our current system. Originally Posted by WombRaider

Wait, what? Did I just read what I thought I read?

Because it looks like you are more or less agreeing with COG's down-the-line libertarian agenda; something that looks like it's right out of the Ron Paul playbook. Big cuts in pretty much everything, a flat tax, etc. ---- that means buh-bye to most of the social programs progressives support, and big tax cuts for those one-percenters you guys seem to resent so much. Isn't that pretty much the opposite of the Bernie Sanders agenda? I mean, he wants all those fat cats to have to start paying their fair share ... not get a big tax cut!!

Did you suddenly have some sort of epiphany and decide to go all libertarian on us? And just when you had me convinced you were such a kind and benevolent social democrat!