Gaetz forgot to make his Venmo payments private. Investigators didn’t even need a warrant to get a record of his payments.
Of course Gaetz is toast if they can convict but investigators are gonna have to flip someone other than Greenberg. Originally Posted by boardman
Payments........for what ? "I have never paid for sex." End of investigation Originally Posted by VitaManthink about the numbers though. imagine how many different gals Gaetz "sessioned" with, and his story that every one of them was his sugar baby. so Gaetz has 30 sugar babies, lets say. at trial, the prosecutor calls 10 or so real sugar daddies-it's a thing-and asks whether anyone not named Elon Musk could have 30 hot sugar babies at approximately the same time, and whether the pattern of payments looks anything like a sd/sb relatiship. all 10 guys say no way.
Section 2423(g)Defense.—
In a prosecution under this section based on illicit sexual conduct as defined in subsection (f)(2), it is a defense, which the defendant must establish by clear and convincing evidence, that the defendant reasonably believed that the person with whom the defendant engaged in the commercial sex act had attained the age of 18 years.
All of a sudden it seems .... age is not an issue. Now it's P4P. Originally Posted by LexusLoverp4p is small potatoes-mostly a hypocrisy and state misdeameanor issue-compared to the age thing and trafficking. the allegedly underage gal has been allegedly working with the feds for several months now. she can easily call bs on his "oh i thought she was 18" defense. if the most recent reports are true-i predict that they are-then i say he's toast.
....the allegedly underage gal has been allegedly working with the feds for several months now. she can easily call bs on his "oh i thought she was 18" defense. if the most recent reports are true-i predict that they are-then i say he's toast.#1: leaks from the investigating "Feds"?
i get a kick out of .... Originally Posted by pxmcc
ppYou don't do Federal criminal trial work do you?
....lets say. at trial, the prosecutor calls 10 or so real sugar daddies-it's a thing-and asks whether anyone not named Elon Musk could have 30 hot sugar babies at approximately the same time, and whether the pattern of payments looks anything like a sd/sb relatiship. all 10 guys say no way.... Originally Posted by pxmcc
Those other convictions really had nothing to do with the initial investigation by Mueller. Most of it was making false statements. After brow beating these guys for months on end they find an inconsistency in an answer from three month previous and next thing you know they're hanging a charge on someone. If these guys were really guilty of something they would have known better and kept their mouth shut. What they did to Michael Flynn is beyond anything I thought could ever happen.Is conspiracy to defraud the United States by Russian nationals really unrelated to Trump/Russian collusion?
Mueller spent millions to try and dig up something on Trump/Russian collusion and got a bunch of unrelated charges, some plea deals and convictions. Not impressed.
Originally Posted by boardman
pp
think about the numbers though. imagine how many different gals Gaetz "sessioned" with, and his story that every one of them was his sugar baby. so Gaetz has 30 sugar babies, lets say. at trial, the prosecutor calls 10 or so real sugar daddies-it's a thing-and asks whether anyone not named Elon Musk could have 30 hot sugar babies at approximately the same time, and whether the pattern of payments looks anything like a sd/sb relatiship. all 10 guys say no way.
then you call the actual gals in question to describe the relationship and when the payments occurred, and it sounds nothing like what the 10 guys explained. basically, they got paid after or before sex, depending on the policies they followed. (some gals require pre-payments.) he's toast, right?
just a side note. the gals on the sd/sb sites are the exact same gals on the escort sites. just another revenue stream.. Originally Posted by pxmcc