Have we decided to forgo the rules in favor of hostility?

As long as safety and security aren't the issues I think your own professionalism and ability to sell yourself BCD "should" ultimately trump any damage people try to inflict because of their hidden agendas. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789
But it doesn't, and you know that.

We've all seen it before, a guy posts a NCNS or some other complaint in Coed and the girl responds with an amazing pic of her tits & ass and then all is forgiven in the world. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789
This formula may work if it happens once or twice, but the more it's repeated, the more it's believed. Again, something you already know.

This formula may work at the lower price points, but for ladies at a higher price point, they simply must be more perfect and above the fray.

I can only speak for myself. My most loyal clients dont get involved with discussions or write reviews on eccie. They do not enjoy the trolling or fighting. So troll on, they dont read this anyway. I myself get tried of the negativity here. My two cents. Originally Posted by Sonya
They may not get involved, but a large percentage of my book of business were lurkers. That's how they found me. And that's how the decided to pay above the market rate to see me.

The name of this game is to attract the best clients you can. I's just that simple. And that's harder to do when a lady is being constantly harassed, stalked or smeared by hobby lifers and other vicious women.
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  • 06-27-2014, 10:46 AM
I'm not anybodys pet Olivia, I find it offensive you call me one....should I bang the rtm button like a little pussy as you have done when you are offended? You are the least civil person on here. This is nothing more than a personal vendetta of yours against LD. You act as if you are sticking up for ladies and civility but if a lady disagrees with you, you trash her....no different than the behavior you are crying about.
But it doesn't, and you know that.



This formula may work if it happens once or twice, but the more it's repeated, the more it's believed. Again, something you already know.

This formula may work at the lower price points, but for ladies at a higher price point, they simply must be more perfect and above the fray.



They may not get involved, but a large percentage of my book of business were lurkers. That's how they found me. And that's how the decided to pay above the market rate to see me.

The name of this game is to attract the best clients you can. I's just that simple. And that's harder to do when a lady is being constantly harassed, stalked or smeared by hobby lifers and other vicious women. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

I have my moments when I'm more or less active on this site but from what I can tell it seems the ladies at the higher price points for the most part are above the fray. Not saying they don't have occasional drama or anything to say but when you look great, talk with common sense, and have great reviews it's hard for haters to win. I didn't know there was a market rate but if you have lurkers paying above market rates to see you then you're winning. Now all you need to do to help combat the hidden agendas is offer an occasional incentive to write reviews and I'm sure if your BCD skills are great more people will take notice of the positive reviews and hit you up on PM.
I'm not anybodys pet Olivia, I find it offensive you call me one....should I bang the rtm button like a little pussy as you have done when you are offended? You are the least civil person on here. This is nothing more than a personal vendetta of yours against LD. You act as if you are sticking up for ladies and civility but if a lady disagrees with you, you trash her....no different than the behavior you are crying about. Originally Posted by WTF
New business: What are you pouting about? At least I capitalize it! Show some gratitude. Now go back to stalking me and my posts.

Rule Breaking - Lying: I do not have a vendetta against LD. In fact, like I've said, she made a beeline for me when she got back from wherever. Every time you say it in an attempt to make it true-by-frequency, I'll simply re-post this.
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Me?? Bully anyone? Hahahahahaha! Really? Wow, thanks. Didn't know I had the power.

(On my phone now, so no green type.)

No, I don't necessarily want the owners of this site to do anything. I want the MEMBERS to play nice. Yeah, I know, hahahahahaha again. Lost cause, so I'll shut up about it.

I would quote Oliva on why some fellows insist, to the point of neurosis, of tramp stamping providers/escorts/companions/whatever as whores, but I can't edit much on my phone. Those guys who just GRIND it in, whore, whore, whore, are putting us in our place, I believe, one where they can feel superior. Have at it. It's your fantasy. My perception of self worth is not based on my profession.

I love, well, at least lust for, all gentlemen, ECCIE, Eros, P411, BP, lurkers, other board members, the entire male race, and even a few females. It's my job, and a delightfil one, indeed.
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  • 06-27-2014, 11:01 AM
#17 - "Cyber Stalking" is a term that refers to the act of following another member around online. This may include persistent PMing of the other party, repeated ISOs about the other party, or excessive bumping of reviews or posting in threads about the other individual, whether it be positive or negative information posted. In any of these cases, whether staff deems that the behavior has crossed the line into cyber-stalking, or the "stalked" party complains to staff about the alleged behavior, staff will take the necessary steps to make it stop. Please avoid becoming involved in this type of conduct.


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Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
Easy, I rarely read Coed. I stay mostly in the Spider Hole. No, I didn't have an epiphany, I searched on Daphne's handle and came upon this thread. The other day I searched on her handle and came upon a hateful comment she made about someone going to the ER that I responded to and another Angry Elf post she posted on that same day [I believe] that I RTM’d.
I have my moments when I'm more or less active on this site but from what I can tell it seems the ladies at the higher price points for the most part are above the fray. Not saying they don't have occasional drama or anything to say but when you look great, talk with common sense, and have great reviews it's hard for haters to win. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789
Not always. I had two stalkers. I got rid of one when I quit posting in the Political Forum. I was getting tired of the same old cut and paste, it's Obama's fault, it's Bush's fault nonsense anyway. The other one, my Pet, still follows me around. Even knows when I go to my surgeon. I managed him and his attempts to derail my business well. I had plenty of clients say they contacted me because of my banter with my Pet. But who's to say how many didn't because of his banter.

I also had a hater, I'd categorize more as a baby-stalker if I had to call him a stalker, that dogged all my reviews because he stole money from me. I can guarantee he cost me money. There is literally no reason the things he said about me and on my reviews should have been allowed to stand yet it was.

These two never effected my OVERALL finances. I have a second source of income and I built a book of business ranging from hair and nails to patrons. A few thousand here and there wasn't necessarily missed like it would be for ladies just starting out or ladies teetering on the edge.

I didn't know there was a market rate but if you have lurkers paying above market rates to see you then you're winning. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789
There is a bell curve in for any statistical data. Hooker rates are no different. I'd say average is $250 - $300 in Houston.

Now all you need to do to help combat the hidden agendas is offer an occasional incentive to write reviews and I'm sure if your BCD skills are great more people will take notice of the positive reviews and hit you up on PM. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789
I never encouraged reviews that's why I had so few. However, you are right for the small minority of women that treat this as a real, legitimate and ongoing business, and consider escorting as a career and not killing time or just a job.
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  • 06-27-2014, 11:09 AM
Me?? Bully anyone? Hahahahahaha!

(On my phone now, so no green type.)

No, I don't necessarily want the owners of this site to do snything. I want the MEMBERS to play nice. Yeah, I know, hahahahahaha again. Originally Posted by Fancyinheels
You are not bullying, Olivia is. She is trying to do it to LD

You are being Passive/aggressive....first you say this is your place of business, which it is not. No more so that the men's place of business.

Then you basically say eccie is going to lose business if they do not listen to me. That is the passive/aggressive approach. Be like my wife saying in her nicest tone, "My pussy would sure appreciate that dress!" Kinda a passive/aggressive way of trying to barter for what she wants. Like I said....state your case, just don't act as if you are not on one side of the fence trying to get your way. I do agree you may attract more bee's with honey than vinegar!
Rule Breaking - Lying by frequency and lying

You posted this in your post title:
You admit to breaking rule number 17....yet you are not cyber stalking LD? Right!

No, I've already explained this twice. This is what I said to Brooke:

Now, had I been reading yet another one of your prolific angry posts, I would have been searching on your handle instead and the thread would have been about your posts. Does that answer your question/s? Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
And this is my explanation to LD on why I searched her handle for comments.

And that means what exactly? That I'm your fan? Perhaps I was curious what you had to say on other topics other than the thread I was reading? Maybe I was searching your handle because when you talk about me you use OH and I can't search on that. Maybe I wanted to see if you'd picked up where you left off and were trying to intimidate other women with your constant harassment. There are several solutions to this puzzle. They don't all have to lead back to me being one of your fans. After all, you're the one that made a beeline to me when you came back from wherever you were not the other way around. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
I also don't think you understand the definition of stalking. What you do to me is stalking. Searching LD's handle when I read yet another of her hateful, bullying comments twice in four years is not. I've said publicly I don't appreciate the way you stalk me. From now on, I'll just RTM the posts.
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  • 06-27-2014, 11:20 AM
The other one, my Pet, still follows me around. Even knows when I go to my surgeon. I managed him and his attempts to derail my business well. I had plenty of clients say they contacted me because of my banter with my Pet. But who's to say how many didn't because of his banter.

. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
Yet you chose to banter with me and have admitted you try and piss me off by call my sweet as honey 84 year old mother a whore. This from a woman who started polls and threads about why women should not call other women whores.

Next , knowing you need plastic surgery is like knowing a monkey throws shit. It is common knowledge. Now if you want to lie and say I somehow am following you and found out some secret of yours , go ahead , lie away. Or hit the rtm button and settle it correctly....instead of this constant lie of yours that I have stalked your rw or done anything other than to combat your constant lies about me and others.

This whole thread is a lie....it has nothing to do with civility and everything to do with you stalking LD's posts and trying to get her banned.

The more you talk to others, the more and more others see your lack of civility. .
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  • 06-27-2014, 11:27 AM



And this is my explanation to LD on why I searched her handle for comments.


. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
So that is your excuse for admitting to cyber stalking LD's posts?

#17 - "Cyber Stalking" is a term that refers to the act of following another member around online. This may include persistent PMing of the other party, repeated ISOs about the other party, or excessive bumping of reviews or posting in threads about the other individual, whether it be positive or negative information posted. In any of these cases, whether staff deems that the behavior has crossed the line into cyber-stalking, or the "stalked" party complains to staff about the alleged behavior, staff will take the necessary steps to make it stop. Please avoid becoming involved in this type of conduct.


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Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
Easy, I rarely read Coed. I stay mostly in the Spider Hole. No, I didn't have an epiphany, I searched on Daphne's handle and came upon this thread. The other day I searched on her handle and came upon a hateful comment she made about someone going to the ER that I responded to and another Angry Elf post she posted on that same day [I believe] that I RTM’d.


I also don't think you understand the definition of stalking. What you do to me is stalking. Searching LD's handle when I read yet another of her hateful, bullying comments twice in four years is not. I've said publicly I don't appreciate the way you stalk me. From now on, I'll just RTM the posts.

. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
I understand that it said stalking was repeated ISOs about the other party which you have admitted to doing. Shall I post it again?

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
Easy, I rarely read Coed. I stay mostly in the Spider Hole. No, I didn't have an epiphany, I searched on Daphne's handle and came upon this thread. The other day I searched on her handle

Pet! There you ARE! Well, better late than never. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
So you are going to rtm a post I made to Zanzibar and then you quote me! Priceless. Who is stalking who? Sounds like they should ban you! Originally Posted by Zanzibar789
It's all a rather simple concept for me. Cyber Bully = a guy or gal who got their asses kicked all the time and are are very good candidates for that same treatment today. Basically people who can't physically defend themselves so they take to the interwebs for revenge. Lol I have no doubts the Cyber bullies would be scared shitless to get in a MMA or Boxing ring and go a few rounds.
cyber bullies crying about other cyber bullies....PRICELESS!

next subject...passive/aggressive assholes that think they are perfect. God this is like a repeat of the old aspd forum of which i can not remember. The D&T of aspd. I agree with Brooke....if you don't like it leave....but for gods sake don't come on here bitching about something you do.
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  • 06-27-2014, 11:38 AM
Steps away slowly. Not my monkeys, not my circus.
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It's like a bad dream that won't end lmao

We are discussing guidelines and moderation of said guidelines. As I said, I chose a good example well as Daphne is a serial rule breaker as evidenced by her eight bans.
Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
So what do you suppose that do about me?

wait for it, everyone.. this should be good.
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  • 06-27-2014, 11:44 AM
Steps away slowly. Not my monkeys, not my circus. Originally Posted by Sonya
Agreed....let the Mods work out the reason for this thread.

Lizzy Borden Howard ain't convincing me she bought a ax to grind because she cares about her parents. If Fancy wants to believe that lets just warn her not to stick her neck to far out!