See. There's the racist we all love to hate. Do you have any way to prove that other than your anecdotal evidence(which honestly isn't worth a penny). Your disdain for all things Muslim is quite apparent in everything you post. Many Indians are Muslims, and you perhaps(most likely) don't know this but India and Pakistan used to be the same country a mere 60 years ago. They are the same people, same ethnicity, divided haphazardly by the British when they left in 1947.
Originally Posted by shanm
Wow, you are one ignorant fuck.
First, stop telling me what I do and don't know, because you look and dumber and dumber every time you try to set up a strawman argument.
I'm well aware that India and Pakistan were once the same country.
But the people in it have never been the "same" people or the "same" ethnicity, your moron. India is FULL of different ethnicities, languages, castes, and most of all, religions.
And I know it is fashionable in progressive circles to blame everything on white people, but the Brits did not haphazardly partition India. The natives did that themselves. Primarily because most of the Muslims REFUSED to live in a nation that was controlled by a Hindu majority
The Muslim conquest of India was the bloodiest genocide in human history. It went on for centuries and probably killed between 50 and 80 million Hindus. And that was without the aid of modern weaponry. The Muslim invaders simply regarded the polytheist Hindus and others as subhuman unbelievers and massacred them accordingly. Read about it:
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/32812
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/20...-of-india.html
http://www.americanthinker.com/artic..._of_india.html
It didn't really stop until the British Empire took over India and put an end to the Muslim oppression.
But, when the British decided it was time to get out, it was clear that the Muslims wanted no part of being a minority in India.
They probably feared reprisals by Hindus. But, more prevalently, they just can't stomach the idea of not being in charge.
Evidently you don't read much, but I'm sure you have seen the movie "Gandhi", right? Remember that hunger strike Gandhi went on to try to force Hindus and Muslims to stop killing each other? That was even BEFORE the British pulled out and made India independent.
And try to remember, that "Pakistan" means "land of the pure". Could the Muslim mindset be ANY MORE CLEAR? Talk about rubbing it in the face of Hindus...
So for you to claim that there is a fundamental difference in "smarts" when it comes to being Indian or Pakistani basically shows your xenophobic tendencies towards Muslims.
Originally Posted by shanm
Once again, trying to put words in my mouth. Strawman much, mope?
Point to any post where I said there was fundamental difference in smarts between Indians and Pakistanis. I only made an observation about the numbers of engineering students that I had seen in college classes. The highest percentages seemed to be Asian, with lesser numbers of Indians and still lesser numbers of Pakistanis and Arabs. There are a lot of reasons for that, including the relative numbers of each group that have immigrated to the US.
I said nothing about basic intelligence, asshole. But you try to turn the conversation that way because you are a typical progressive asshole who attributes all disagreement with his viewpoints as rooted in racism.
So, once again, fuck off, mope.
But, hey, thank you again for proving my point about being selective about who we let into the country. Does your tiny progressive brain not grasp the irony of you pointing out that the MUSLIM Boston Bomber (Tsarnaev) was studying dentistry. Yeah, that really undercuts my argument.
Let me put it another way - eventually your progressive "brain" will get the point. If we had not let the Tsarnaev family into the US, but instead let in some Argentinians, or Koreans, or Belgians, or Cambodians, do you think they would have set off bombs at the Boston Marathon?
You already know the answer to that question is "no", so don't pretend otherwise.
Let's get one thing straight. I am not arguing for ILLEGAL immigrants. I am arguing ONLY for legal immigrants. Yes, the droves that come in illegally and our taking our jobs ARE a problem, but that is not exclusive to Muslims, and is actually much more prevalent among christian Mexicans. So for you to suggest it's a Muslim problem just because of one or two terrorist attacks that happened in the last 100 years, that is a bit fucking XENOPHOBIC, you "prick".
There have been more internal attacks done by us whites and the black population than have been done by Muslims. But as soon as it's a Muslim, he is automatically considered a representative of the entire Islamic world. What happened when James Holmes shot up that theater in Colorado? He was labelled a crazy, deranged "individual", wasn't he? Did you see people classifying caucasians as an inherent problem to the nation then? Now compare that with the Tsarnev bombing.
Originally Posted by shanm
I am also arguing about legal immigrants - and being more selective about it.
And there have been countless Muslim atrocities, not one or two. I count ALL the attacks around the world when evaluating potential immigrants. We don't have to wait for them to come here. Right now, ISIS is committing genocide in Libya, Syria and Iraq. Do we really have to let Muslims from those countries into the US to see how they work out?
That is not being xenophobic. That is being minimally observant.
And your comparison of whites (or blacks) who are clinically insane and commit mass murder is entirely fatuous. For starters, they are ALREADY here so we cannot stop them from coming here. And there act are completely random because their genuine mental illness is random.
The Muslim assholes that tare going to Syria to join jihad and get training from ISIS are NOT insane. They are part of an organized terrorist group and they have been indoctrinated by a barbaric Middle Eastern cult. It is stupid to compare that to a clear mental illness.
As to the rest of your puerile vomit, you just described the costs of capitalism. Companies will continue outsourcing and hiring immigrants willing to work for lower wages as long as it churns out higher profits for them. You're probably one of those that bang the capitalism drum in every other thread except when it's working in your favor. It's simple capitalism that you use different labor if you can maintain quality and cut costs at the same time. That's the foundation our country was built on, you insufferable cunt.
Originally Posted by shanm
It may or may not be the cost of capitalism. But immigration policy surely is not.
Nothing prevents American companies from hiring immigrants from Argentina, Peru, China, and even moderate Muslim countries like Turkey or Malaysia, if the immigrant pool is restricted to exclude people from restive, violent, oppressive Muslim countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, most of the Middle East.
The companies will hire those that they are allowed to hire.
Got it now, insufferable cunt?
For me, any immigrant that gets here legally, works hard to achieve his dream, and takes care of his family while paying into this country is a true American. Anyone who promotes unfounded hate and bigotry with his juvenile vitriol has my permission to get the fuck out. Since when did proving ANYTHING to a dipshit asswad like you become a requirement to get into this country. You can go fuck yourself for all I (or anyone else) cares.
Originally Posted by shanm
And we can get plenty of those good, hard-working people from non-Muslim countries - more than we need, in fact. So, since we can't take everybody that wants to come here, why not take those that pose the least risk? That have the smallest potential downside?
And, if the past 30 years have taught us anything, it is that the Muslim predilection towards violence and religious extremism is NOT "unfounded". But thanks for playing, mope.
And no one has to prove anything to me to come here mope. We can just set our immigration quotas to favor certain countries and never have to deal with the jihadists in the first place.
You are honestly not worth the minute or so I spend writing my posts. It's obvious that you are too far gone in your hatred and fear-mongering. No amount of sense or reason will get through that immeasurably thick head of yours.
Originally Posted by shanm
And yet, here you are taking FAR MORE than a minute or so to respond to my posts.
And you do nothing but fill the pages will PC blather.