Trump and russia

lustylad's Avatar
Fear and hatred make good bedfellows out of those who promote it and the weaklings who are susceptible... Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Excellent observation, assup! Of course, we know haters gonna hate. A good way to start is to demonize your opponents as racists, sexists, misogynists, homophobes, deplorables, et cetera! Then follow up by comparing them to Hitler and his goose-stepping Nazis!

Keep stirring the shit in 2017, assup... you'll find plenty of weak, susceptible bedfellows out there!

Happy New Year, oinkboy!
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Never said "goose-stepping," Junior.

Now go back home to Pittsburgh and get yer shine box.
Skip_8's Avatar
Lustylad, many of these Clintonistas hate Trump so much that they allow their hate to supplant reason and critical thinking.

You just need to treat each one as if he is the village idiot, nod and smile.


Excellent observation, assup! Of course, we know haters gonna hate. A good way to start is to demonize your opponents as racists, sexists, misogynists, homophobes, deplorables, et cetera! Then follow up by comparing them to Hitler and his goose-stepping Nazis!

Keep stirring the shit in 2017, assup... you'll find plenty of weak, susceptible bedfellows out there!

Happy New Year, oinkboy! Originally Posted by lustylad
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Lustylad, many of these Clintonistas hate Trump so much that they allow their hate to supplant reason and critical thinking.

You just need to treat each one as if he is the village idiot, nod and smile. Originally Posted by Skip_8
Thanks, Skip. "Supplant" implies they once possessed those qualities.

By the way, assup is more than your run-of-the-mill village idiot. In the Political Forum he is a 3-time winner of the Dipshit of the Year award!
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Yet you're the troll, Junior.

You and your butt buddy, JL, can't wait fur FEb 8, can you?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
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  • Runez
  • 01-01-2017, 04:43 PM
As a foreigner and looking at it from an outside perspective (as a non-US citizen) I think Obama is on the right to sanction Russia and I will go as far as say that he should have given harsher sanctions.

It's safe to assume that the international community knows that Russia did hack the Democratic Party and brought light to all the dirt they were hiding but there have to be consequences for there actions.

If you don't punish Russia what message are you giving to the international community? That they can go ahead and do whatever they want because there will be no consequences.
Ok here's the deal. It's the timing. Now Obama wants to get tough-well,as much as he can. See he should of done something back in May but instead he only told Putin to 'cut it out'.
Now does anybody really think that Putin would "cut it out" just because Obama says too?? Oh hell, no- the international community thinks Obama is a pussy and they won't do anything he says. - Just look at the way China treated him. So what Obama really did was make things awkward for the incoming President because the sanctions that were issued won't change anything.




As a foreigner and looking at it from an outside perspective (as a non-US citizen) I think Obama is on the right to sanction Russia and I will go as far as say that he should have given harsher sanctions.

It's safe to assume that the international community knows that Russia did hack the Democratic Party and brought light to all the dirt they were hiding but there have to be consequences for there actions.

If you don't punish Russia what message are you giving to the international community? That they can go ahead and do whatever they want because there will be no consequences. Originally Posted by Runez
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  • Runez
  • 01-02-2017, 06:25 PM
Ok here's the deal. It's the timing. Now Obama wants to get tough-well,as much as he can. See he should of done something back in May but instead he only told Putin to 'cut it out'.
Now does anybody really think that Putin would "cut it out" just because Obama says too?? Oh hell, no- the international community thinks Obama is a pussy and they won't do anything he says. - Just look at the way China treated him. So what Obama really did was make things awkward for the incoming President because the sanctions that were issued won't change anything. Originally Posted by Austin Ellen
I agree with that, if the CIA or FBI knew that Russia was behind the hacking they should have done something back then. Nonetheless Trump should uphold the sanctions and don't bend before Putin, like I said right now it's more about sending a message.

I don't agree with the statement that the international community has no respect for Obama. Again as a non-citizen and foreigner, I can guarantee you that the international community has more respect for Obama than the previous two presidents (Bush & Clinton). He might not have hit the nail on the head with his healthcare reforms and other things, but he did more rights than wrongs. And in regards to China, I've lived there, they don't respect anyone don't take it personal.

Just putting this out there because there are some people that as soon as they hear the word Trump they tend to disagree with everything: I don't hate Trump, I think some of his views and ideas are good for the U.S. But then there are some that are just completely idiotic.
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The United States hacks everyone, including the Chinese and Russians who hack our companies, all the time. The best known unit in the National Security Agency is called TAO, and it hires some of the best hackers available, many from the Cyber Security program at Carnagie Mellon University, which specializes in offensive hacking. For years the Chinese and Russians and Israelis and others have been retaliating by stealing hundreds of billions in intellectual property from American companies but the President can't complain because we do the same thing. Now all the sudden he cries foul. Not because our companies have lost a trillion dollars in the last ten years to this game, but because it makes the Democratic Party look bad. It didn't even affect the election. Trump wasn't even nominated yet. It just revealed that the Dem Party was biased against Sanders, and Podesta was an idiot. Go back to Kenya Barry, or Barack Hussein, or whatever the fuck your name really is. You're a feckless fool who kept no promises and didn't change a fucking thing. Well hold onto your seats because the real change agent has arrived. And he doesn't trust cyber security. The Russians tossed out all their email devices and went back to using manual type writers. Trump might do the same.
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Welcome to the 17th Century!
  • DSK
  • 01-03-2017, 11:47 AM
Welcome to the 17th Century! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
At least you couldn't send PM's to me back then!!

Hopefully Mr. Trump will solve the riddle of dealing with Russia. Ultimately, with vigilance, we should be able to make hacking very hard work with little gain.

Stealing embarrassing emails may look minor, but if someone gets your email account they can start getting reset passwords form other, more important accounts.
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You have my permission -- and encouragement -- to post the PMs I've been sending you, JL. For the world to see.

Fake news on ECCIE! Who'da thunk it!
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Did you say something, oinkboy?

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1929489
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Ok here's the deal. It's the timing. Now Obama wants to get tough-well, as much as he can.... Originally Posted by Austin Ellen
Bingo!

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After 7 years and 11 months Obama is SHOCKED!! SHOCKED!!

https://youtu.be/SjbPi00k_ME