I went to a concert tonight and the theme was symbiosis. A thought occurred to me about what all of you have stated and provided your opinion on this thread. I think it's hunger management with a touch of business and humanity. Sysmbiosis. Mutually dependent but not with one. For hobbyists it is a source of an unusual companionship and release of oxytocin and feeling of calmness and for the providers means to provide for their children, pay for college and other bills...and develop savings and safety net for the future.
Emotions can get mixed but overall boundaries have to be maintained. Because you both can have any extremely motivating experience and the ladies here have taught me a lot.
But anything more personal will interfere with individual goals and the issues in the future will arise from the past.
I guess the orchestra tonight made me philosophical. Cheers