trump the traitor

I'm not going to read through all these pages of dribble to confirm what I already suspect is true: the US is divided. Pretty straightforward, right?

But, here is my take. Forewarning, I am an independent liberal who did not vote for Trump or Clinton. I'll shoot down the lame "voting for a third party is throwing your vote away" with a reference to free speech. Anyways, that is such a naive argument to begin with, but I digress.

Trump is a terrible politician and he exhibits this on a daily basis. He is unstable, slow witted and ill-tempered. He won because he is clever as he saw an opening and ran with it. Americans are pissed at the government and have been for the last 15 or so years. Needless wars, wealth gaps and bailouts pissed just about everyone off and Trump saw this. He was the outsider, etc. and people fell for it.

While I would love to say I want him impeached, this guy is so terrible that he cannot get things threw. Hell, he had his Executive Orders fail like a N. Korean missile. But, behind the stupid orange man with terrible hair, terrible views on most everything and even worse grammar, his ineffectiveness is endearing to me because he can't lead. It's like a 4 year stalemate. Replace him and you get Pence who can pass legislation through. It's odd to me that Democrats are screaming impeach and Republicans don't want it.

Just my .02

I'm not going to read through all these pages of dribble to confirm what I already suspect is true: the US is divided. Pretty straightforward, right?

But, here is my take. Forewarning, I am an independent liberal who did not vote for Trump or Clinton. I'll shoot down the lame "voting for a third party is throwing your vote away" with a reference to free speech. Anyways, that is such a naive argument to begin with, but I digress.

Trump is a terrible politician and he exhibits this on a daily basis. He is unstable, slow witted and ill-tempered. He won because he is clever as he saw an opening and ran with it. Americans are pissed at the government and have been for the last 15 or so years. Needless wars, wealth gaps and bailouts pissed just about everyone off and Trump saw this. He was the outsider, etc. and people fell for it.

While I would love to say I want him impeached, this guy is so terrible that he cannot get things threw. Hell, he had his Executive Orders fail like a N. Korean missile. But, behind the stupid orange man with terrible hair, terrible views on most everything and even worse grammar, his ineffectiveness is endearing to me because he can't lead. It's like a 4 year stalemate. Replace him and you get Pence who can pass legislation through. It's odd to me that Democrats are screaming impeach and Republicans don't want it.

Just my .02 Originally Posted by gt27

There won't be an impeachment. Hurts their party. To your last point though, I think you are looking at it wrong. I think if they go for replacing him, it won't be Pence. Paul Ryan is Frank Underwooding this whole thing. And he will end up being the replacement. That guy. Knew he was doing all these for some reason.

There won't be an impeachment. Hurts their party. To your last point though, I think you are looking at it wrong. I think if they go for replacing him, it won't be Pence. Paul Ryan is Frank Underwooding this whole thing. And he will end up being the replacement. That guy. Knew he was doing all these for some reason. Originally Posted by Austin Dude

This isn't Vietnam, there are rules. The Constitution and the Presidential Succession Act would state that Pence becomes president.

I love House of Cards, but I do not think a Frank Underwood situation can happen (maybe wishful thinking).

Trump is a terrible politician and he exhibits this on a daily basis. He is unstable, slow witted and ill-tempered. He won because he is clever as he saw an opening and ran with it. Originally Posted by gt27

So Trump is a terrible politician but was able to win the presidency against a bunch of lifelong politicians? And Trump is both slow-witted and clever?

clever: quick to understand, learn, and devise or apply ideas; intelligent.

slow-witted: slow to understand, think, or learn; stupid

You should probably pick your words more wisely.

So Trump is a terrible politician but was able to win the presidency against a bunch of lifelong politicians? And Trump is both slow-witted and clever?

clever: quick to understand, learn, and devise or apply ideas; intelligent.

slow-witted: slow to understand, think, or learn; stupid

You should probably pick your words more wisely. Originally Posted by centexguy

You should learn semantics.

Clever: Superficially skillful(on the surface only). http://www.dictionary.com/browse/clever?s=t There's a link for ya' check out #2, one might say context is everything and critical reading is not your stronghold in life. You could even say that he was "original" which is another use of the word clever, but Hitler/Mussolini had similar nationalistic overtones in their calls to the masses.

You do know words have more than one meaning. I meant he was clever, or skin deep skilled, in perceiving the frustration of the nation and taking those frustrations to his campaign. He fed off the failures of US society and claimed he alone could resolve these issues while no one else could. He is slow witted: slow to understand or learn,https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slow-witted
in that he never thought a court could look beyond the text of a proposed piece of legislation or executive order despite the court doing so in the past when race/gender discrimination is at hand. Yet that is what he did, he talked about banning all muslims and about mexicans being "bad hombres". He thought that a stroke of the pen would erase his racist rhetoric, yet again he shows his slow witted approach to politics.

He is a bad politician because he cannot pass legislation despite his party having control in the house, senate and POTUS. He is a good salesman because he, apparently, won your vote. Let's see how many representatives in Washington have his back once they see that Trump is truly a liability and not an asset.

Still, I for one would like to see him in office because he is utterly ineffective.

You should learn semantics.

Clever: Superficially skillful(on the surface only). http://www.dictionary.com/browse/clever?s=t There's a link for ya' check out #2, one might say context is everything and critical reading is not your stronghold in life. You could even say that he was "original" which is another use of the word clever, but Hitler/Mussolini had similar nationalistic overtones in their calls to the masses.

You do know words have more than one meaning. I meant he was clever, or skin deep skilled, in perceiving the frustration of the nation and taking those frustrations to his campaign. He fed off the failures of US society and claimed he alone could resolve these issues while no one else could. He is slow witted: slow to understand or learn,https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slow-witted
in that he never thought a court could look beyond the text of a proposed piece of legislation or executive order despite the court doing so in the past when race/gender discrimination is at hand. Yet that is what he did, he talked about banning all muslims and about mexicans being "bad hombres". He thought that a stroke of the pen would erase his racist rhetoric, yet again he shows his slow witted approach to politics.

He is a bad politician because he cannot pass legislation despite his party having control in the house, senate and POTUS. He is a good salesman because he, apparently, won your vote. Let's see how many representatives in Washington have his back once they see that Trump is truly a liability and not an asset.

Still, I for one would like to see him in office because he is utterly ineffective. Originally Posted by gt27

I don't think saying that he was clever in "perceiving the frustration of the nation and taking those frustrations to his campaign" helps your argument that he's slow-witted. And the Hitler is Trump meme is out of fashion now, please keep up.

Also, Muslims and Mexicans are not races, one's a religion and the other is a nationality. So wanting to ban illegal immmigration and Muslims from a few countries is not racist. Either you know that and you're being dishonest, or you don't know that in which case critical thinking isn't you're strong suit.

This isn't Vietnam, there are rules. The Constitution and the Presidential Succession Act would state that Pence becomes president.

I love House of Cards, but I do not think a Frank Underwood situation can happen (maybe wishful thinking). Originally Posted by gt27

I guess I needed to go into extreme detail to show that I know what every person knows, that the VP is next in line. Although even if I was unaware, the fact that Pence is vice PRESIDENT, I could assume that he would be the next guy up. The point was that who's after the VP? Therefore I was insinuating that Pence wouldn't take the position, thus Ryan would become POTUS. Thanks though for trying to knock down the scenario with basic knowledge while you try to sound smarter than others.

All this chicken counting.

Reporter:
"Would you be willing to speak under oath and give your version of -- ,"
Trump interrupts:
"100%..."

My Lawyers Got Trump to Admit 30 Lies Under Oath
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...imothy-o-brien

"That deposition — 170 transcribed pages — offers extraordinary insights into Trump’s relationship with the truth. Trump’s falsehoods were unstrategic — needless, highly specific, easy to disprove."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.9ed54a314ed3

Says the guy who's response to anything is: "you're a LIBTARD!" (so lame)

Your post is a classic crybaby response. You only talk about insults and labels because you are getting your ass kicked. You throw out the first insult (usually 'libtard' ad nauseam) and then cry foul when others take you down.

So grow a set of balls, you weak fuck. Originally Posted by Cap'n Crunch

Hahaha... shooting blanks again, crunchyass? Go ahead and insult away - I'll never "cry foul". I said insults are ALL YOU HAVE. My insults are interspersed between layers of substance. Yours cover up for a LACK of substance. Instead of trying to rebut my observation that you are stuck in a glum zero-sum world, you falsely label me as a blind Trump follower. Instead of addressing why liberals cannot shed their self-defeating contempt for the middle class, you unleash a stream of insults and laughably proclaim to have kicked my ass. Insecure much?

Either you're too afraid or too stupid to engage on substance. Chances are you don't understand the meaning of the term zero-sum, even though it implicitly infuses all your comments. And you're way too cowardly to contemplate the roots of your pathological need to hate anyone with a different opinion than your own. Haters gonna hate!

Evidently I have succeeded in pushing all the right buttons and exposing the shallowness and intellectual vacuity of the libtards who hang out in this forum!

So keep up the insults, crunchyass! Keep dropping your pigeon poop! It's all you have!

They keep hating but their taking notes.

KKKiebler Elf will in the hot seat today.

Here is one of the bigger issues , and that is most Americans are saying that they CAN'T imagine 3 and half more yrs of this guy as president.

KKKiebler Elf will in the hot seat today. Originally Posted by Observing

Not nearly as hot as it will be for Loretta Lynch...

http://circa.com/politics/comey-priv...torney-general

By all means, keep up the investigations. The longer they go on, the more dirty little secrets come out in the open. Seems the Russians were not alone in trying to influence the 2016 election. They had help from the dimbulbocrats!

Obstruction? Sure looks like it.