Liberals and conservatives....

The great communicator said it even better:


“Some of you may remember that in my early days, I was sort of a bleeding heart liberal. Then I became a man and put away childish ways.”

First off, it is Tea Party, not Tea Bagger -- you reveal your liberal credentials with that derisive comment regardless of what your graphs show.

Second, the Tea Party movement is a small government movement whose only core issue is out of control government spend by both the Rep & the Dems at all levels of government. Both parties need them, because neither side can win with just their base. Originally Posted by pjorourke

You need to lay off the crack for a few days, PJ. The tea baggers are just fucking nuts. They're to the right of the Republicans. And the Republicans are further to the right these days than the Klan. The tea baggers make the John Birch Society look reasonable. The crazy bitch that ran for Texas Governor for them 1) thinks 9/11 hasn't been adequately explained; and 2) thinks Texas should succeed from the union. She claimed that the Soviets had brainwashed the police in Texas!!! And the bitch still got 19% of the vote.

And if you think the tea baggers are anything other than a front organization setup by the Republican Party to add to the attackers on the Democrats, you are sadly mistaken.

The entire Tea Party aparatus was set up by Russo, Marsh, and Associates of Sacremento, CA. They are long time, seasoned Republican political operatives. They set up Our Country Deserves Better (OCDB) with $1.3 M between July and November of 2009. This group, in turn, funded Tea Party Express (TPE), the group behind the Tea Paty movement. Of the $1.3 M, over $800k of that money went back to Russo, Marsh.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo .com/2009/12/majority_of_tea_party_groups_s pending_went_to_gop.php?ref=fp b

There is an alternative Tea Party organization called Tea Party Patriots (TTP). They have sued TPE over the identity of the Tea Party movement and who is more pure, etc. But you'll be pleased to know that TTP is also a creation of the Republicans. They are funded by Freedomworks, which is headed by form Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey and have a former Republican staffer named Matt Kibble as President and CEO. Freedomworks is, in turn, a spin off from Citizens for a Sound Economy, a conservative Republican organization that helped George Bush by getting Ralph Nader on the ballot in Oregon in 2004. Freedomworks gets a lot of it's money from tobacco companies, most notably Phillip Morris. They are also global warming deniers.

http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Freedomworks

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/30/bush.nader/index.html

Do you people not read the political news?? It's like you only watch TV!!

thinks Texas should succeed from the union Originally Posted by TexTushHog

secede from the union perhaps?

You need to lay off the crack for a few days, PJ. The tea baggers are just fucking nuts. They're to the right of the Republicans. And the Republicans are further to the right these days than the Klan. The tea baggers make the John Birch Society look reasonable. The crazy bitch that ran for Texas Governor for them 1) thinks 9/11 hasn't been adequately explained; and 2) thinks Texas should succeed from the union. She claimed that the Soviets had brainwashed the police in Texas!!! And the bitch still got 19% of the vote.

And if you think the tea baggers are anything other than a front organization setup by the Republican Party to add to the attackers on the Democrats, you are sadly mistaken.

The entire Tea Party aparatus was set up by Russo, Marsh, and Associates of Sacremento, CA. They are long time, seasoned Republican political operatives. They set up Our Country Deserves Better (OCDB) with $1.3 M between July and November of 2009. This group, in turn, funded Tea Party Express (TPE), the group behind the Tea Paty movement. Of the $1.3 M, over $800k of that money went back to Russo, Marsh.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo .com/2009/12/majority_of_tea_party_groups_s pending_went_to_gop.php?ref=fp b

There is an alternative Tea Party organization called Tea Party Patriots (TTP). They have sued TPE over the identity of the Tea Party movement and who is more pure, etc. But you'll be pleased to know that TTP is also a creation of the Republicans. They are funded by Freedomworks, which is headed by form Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey and have a former Republican staffer named Matt Kibble as President and CEO. Freedomworks is, in turn, a spin off from Citizens for a Sound Economy, a conservative Republican organization that helped George Bush by getting Ralph Nader on the ballot in Oregon in 2004. Freedomworks gets a lot of it's money from tobacco companies, most notably Phillip Morris. They are also global warming deniers.

http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Freedomworks

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/30/bush.nader/index.html

Do you people not read the political news?? It's like you only watch TV!! Originally Posted by TexTushHog

THANK YOU!

I will leave the room again now.

You need to lay off the crack for a few days, PJ. The tea baggers are just fucking nuts. They're to the right of the Republicans. And the Republicans are further to the right these days than the Klan. The tea baggers make the John Birch Society look reasonable. The crazy bitch that ran for Texas Governor for them 1) thinks 9/11 hasn't been adequately explained; and 2) thinks Texas should succeed from the union. She claimed that the Soviets had brainwashed the police in Texas!!! And the bitch still got 19% of the vote. Originally Posted by TexTushHog

You do understand that this rant makes you seem just as nutty as that lady from Texas, right?

By the way, you are aware the majority of the Klu Klux Klan members that did the most damage from the 1940's to the 1970's were registered democrats, right?

Dixiecrats

PWI?

I get this weird twitch in my eye every time I hear folks suggest that Republican and Conservative are synonyms.

You need to lay off the crack for a few days, PJ. The tea baggers are just fucking nuts. They're to the right of the Republicans. And the Republicans are further to the right these days than the Klan. The tea baggers make the John Birch Society look reasonable. The crazy bitch that ran for Texas Governor for them 1) thinks 9/11 hasn't been adequately explained; and 2) thinks Texas should succeed from the union. She claimed that the Soviets had brainwashed the police in Texas!!! And the bitch still got 19% of the vote. Originally Posted by TexTushHog

And if you think the tea baggers are anything other than a front organization setup by the Republican Party to add to the attackers on the Democrats, you are sadly mistaken.

The entire Tea Party aparatus was set up by Russo, Marsh, and Associates of Sacremento, CA. They are long time, seasoned Republican political operatives. They set up Our Country Deserves Better (OCDB) with $1.3 M between July and November of 2009. This group, in turn, funded Tea Party Express (TPE), the group behind the Tea Paty movement. Of the $1.3 M, over $800k of that money went back to Russo, Marsh.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo .com/2009/12/majority_of_tea_party_groups_s pending_went_to_gop.php?ref=fp b

There is an alternative Tea Party organization called Tea Party Patriots (TTP). They have sued TPE over the identity of the Tea Party movement and who is more pure, etc. But you'll be pleased to know that TTP is also a creation of the Republicans. They are funded by Freedomworks, which is headed by form Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey and have a former Republican staffer named Matt Kibble as President and CEO. Freedomworks is, in turn, a spin off from Citizens for a Sound Economy, a conservative Republican organization that helped George Bush by getting Ralph Nader on the ballot in Oregon in 2004. Freedomworks gets a lot of it's money from tobacco companies, most notably Phillip Morris. They are also global warming deniers.

http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Freedomworks

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/30/bush.nader/index.html

Do you people not read the political news?? It's like you only watch TV!! Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Resorting to name calling and cacophony again, TTH? The party of tolerance that you espouse to sounds a lot more like the party of intolerance. Calling those of us who are protesting the big govt policies tea-baggers is another shining example of intolerance. I've been to the teaparties and they are against all big-govt spending including the BS bush piled on after 9/11. Brainwashed? Isn't that what the MSM or Huffington Post is doing to your mellon?

I've watched the videos of SEIU, funded by Soros and company, thugs beating on a tea party member. The videos of leftist protesters storming the stages of conservative speakers all funded by your "tolerant" party. The asshole that flew his plane into the IRS building was a BO supporter. The democrats founded the KKK, the democrats had Byrd, a KKK member, among their rank and file in the Senate. The asshole that shot up an Arkansas recruiting office was a lib-nut. In New Mexico your union assholes are hiring day-laborers to do their protesting for them. The company they are protesting is non-union, but does provide better benefits than the union and the union members are dropping their memberships to work for the non-union construction company. What happened to party of the people?

Abraham Lincoln was the FIRST Republican. The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican. Wisconsin, two ACORN members just indicted on FELONY VOTER FRAUD, with more to come; just can't win without cheating. These are democrats; when you look in the mirror can you, with a straight face, tell yourself that your party is the upstanding model for the future? Take a good look at your democratic leaders who are under ethics investigations from all sorts of improprieties. Do you honestly aspire to the BS Rahm is pulling? Rahm, what a shining example of your party. The party of tolerance my ass!

Our legal system is a whole thread on it's own. Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

Oh brother, is THAT so true.

I get this weird twitch in my eye every time I hear folks suggest that Republican and Conservative are synonyms. Originally Posted by ANONONE

On this Anon, we agree.

Resorting to name calling and cacophony again, TTH? The party of tolerance that you espouse to sounds a lot more like the party of intolerance. Calling those of us who are protesting the big govt policies tea-baggers is another shining example of intolerance. I've been to the teaparties and they are against all big-govt spending including the BS bush piled on after 9/11. Brainwashed? Isn't that what the MSM or Huffington Post is doing to your mellon?

I've watched the videos of SEIU, funded by Soros and company, thugs beating on a tea party member. The videos of leftist protesters storming the stages of conservative speakers all funded by your "tolerant" party. The asshole that flew his plane into the IRS building was a BO supporter. The democrats founded the KKK, the democrats had Byrd, a KKK member, among their rank and file in the Senate. The asshole that shot up an Arkansas recruiting office was a lib-nut. In New Mexico your union assholes are hiring day-laborers to do their protesting for them. The company they are protesting is non-union, but does provide better benefits than the union and the union members are dropping their memberships to work for the non-union construction company. What happened to party of the people?

Abraham Lincoln was the FIRST Republican. The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican. Wisconsin, two ACORN members just indicted on FELONY VOTER FRAUD, with more to come; just can't win without cheating. These are democrats; when you look in the mirror can you, with a straight face, tell yourself that your party is the upstanding model for the future? Take a good look at your democratic leaders who are under ethics investigations from all sorts of improprieties. Do you honestly aspire to the BS Rahm is pulling? Rahm, what a shining example of your party. The party of tolerance my ass! Originally Posted by DFW5Traveler

Ahh... someone else who is keeping up with the facts. Good.

TTH, back away from the keyboard before it blows up on you. What you wrote is way, way out there and completely past NGC-635a.

that texas did indeed have the right to secede from the union. I had heard this as a child growing up and that Texas had the right to divide into as much as 5 states.

One is true, the other isn't.

The annexation document that incorporated Texas into the union had a provision that up to 4 new states, formed out of the existing state, in addition to the State of Texas, upon consent of such State, may be formed.

Wonder what ten senators from Texas could do?

You need to lay off the crack for a few days, PJ. The tea baggers are just fucking nuts. They're to the right of the Republicans. And the Republicans are further to the right these days than the Klan. The tea baggers make the John Birch Society look reasonable. The crazy bitch that ran for Texas Governor for them 1) thinks 9/11 hasn't been adequately explained; and 2) thinks Texas should succeed from the union. She claimed that the Soviets had brainwashed the police in Texas!!! And the bitch still got 19% of the vote. Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Like any political group doesn't have its share of nut jobs.

The Tea Party movement, a generic name for the growing disgust with out of control big government and spending, is growing and it is real. Any political party that wants to win elections ignores it or mocks it at its own peril. Your fellow Texan Ross Perot came out of the same sentiments and got Bush I beat by that hick governor from Arkansas. This movement is even bigger this time.

Again, lets see how many votes they get out in November, should be interesting.

a)

b) The premise is that all children are entitled to an education --the rationale being that this will produce an educated citizenry that will be productive.

. Originally Posted by pjorourke

How's that working out for us?

Vouchers are just another way for people with kids to get people without kids to pay for their kids education.

Mostly I THINK (there 'I think' is for DG, it means you can say any thing not even close to the truth and are not supposed to be called out on it if ya add the 'I think')This is a personal attack as defined in our Mission Statement and as I've defined it in previous discussions. Please refrain from this type attack in the future. It is uncalled for and will no longer be tolerated. - JB its a bunch of people that want to teach creationism in the schools.

If we assigned an actual cost to having kids, people would think twice before having ten of them and then crying for vouchers!

The liberals really, really hate the Tea party and Sarah Palin.
Must be a big threat.