Since you later try to justify such a position saying that you excluded felony acts, can we assume that 1) a misdomeanor act of crime, that is in an effort to better one's self, is Ok with you?...and 2) since a repeat offense of illegal immigration is a felony, that you hold those repeat offenders in disdain?
Finally, your efforts to turn this into a race issue fall well short. I can tell you that most of us that are against illegal immigration here in the US, are against it for all races, creeds, nationalities and colors. But just because a guy who got bitten by a thousand fire ants exclaims "G Damn Fire Ants"...does not mean that he is not opposed to red ant bites too. It's a BS diversion...and you know it.
Originally Posted by Rudyard K
I specifically said felonies for a reason. I wanted to include most felony crimes against persons/property as being contemptible. It was not my intent to include DWI, gambling, traffic offenses, solicitation or prostitution (mostly so called "victimless crimes") and which are mostly misdemeanors (and which some of us have committed and been convicted of in the past), in that list.
And yes, a repeat offense is a felony, and should be enforced in line with my original post:
Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:
- Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
- Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
- Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.
Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.
But let's follow the statute. And criminal procedure as set out by the Consitution. Just for kicks.
You may think that your bias is discrimination neutral, but that is merely a pretext. The vast majority of undocumenteds here are from Mexico, or from Latin America. In the context of Texas (which was the original context) it was most certainly a reference to Latin American people who are undocumented.
Pretty snarky for a guy who obviously CHOSE to ignore the fact that I not only read and understood but also ridiculed your post. Your "exclusion" is a very flimsy attempt to protect the central fallacy of your primary argument.
All crimes are committed by those who want a "better life" for themselves and /or their families. Your exclusion only magnifies the weakness of your central premise.
Hell, we hobby because we want "a better life" because life with sex is better than life without it. The ladies hobby because they "want a better life".
Nice try and a pretty thinly veiled ad hominem. But no cigar.
Originally Posted by Iaintliein
I call BS. You didn't understand. As I've said here before, I would be harder than current govt on undocumenteds that commit felonies. Instead of prosecuting them, sentencing them, sending them to prison here, with 3 squares and a roof, I'd send them back to their country of origin. It would cut out the cost.
All crimes are committed by those who want a "better life" for themselves and /or their families.
And what does that sentence mean. Are you saying that the only crimes that are committed in the whole US are committed by those who want a better life? That is a fair reading of that sentence. If you meant something else, you need to expound, b/c it is a nonsensical sentence.
