Jason Gideon (Shame On You)

If a man is that into inflicting pain on a woman,he's not to far off until he starts actually raping in real life. Secondly I thought their was an upcharge for specialty sessions. 300 is her fee but shouldn't she receive more for the shit she had to endure? Then he stiffs her 50 bucks. He intended on stiffing her it was his way of giving a last fuck you. If any man likes to disrespect women and degrade them in such a manner it's because he secretly hates them. He probably doesn't see this hobby as most of us see it,spend some time with a attractive young lady with some no strings attached fun. He secretly loathes the fact he has to pay for their time. In real life women don't like him,and he knows this. That's why he behaves the way he does.

I'm about to lay my .02 cents on the table real quick like...

JG - Dude, stop reading 50 shades of Grey and brush up on some real BDSM. Do you even know what a safe word is? Better yet, how about the simple word "NO"? Is that something your mother always told you as a child? "NO?"

Kelsey - Better that JG is not writing an alert about a provider turning around and beating his ass on the spot - "A real DOMME experience" - thats what I would've done. Wounds and bruises heal over time Hun and I'm glad you're okay. Thanks for posting this about this jerk.

Meh...

I don't care if a hobbyist is well reviewed and has a great, shiny, sparking, and kick ass "PSUEDO ONLINE PERSONALITY ON A HOOKER BOARD",
That does not give him the right to get away with stuff like this!

And then he ripped you off $50? Girl I would've ripped him a new asshole.

Kelsey thank you for having the courage to let everybody know what a douchebag this guy really is.

I have seen the picture of the blood covered bed and it made me cringe|.

Jason Gideon, you are a bad guy with an obvious deep seated hatred of women. You have no morals or values. Why did you not tell about the provider you made an appointment with and then asked for a discount because you would write her an awesome review and then when she said no, you NSNC her?

Guys, watch out for this guy because i know for a fact he will try to stab you in the back and/or cockblock you.

Jason you really should seek professional help before you go too far one day and do damage that won't heal in a few days.

Kelsey thank you for having the courage to let everybody know what a douchebag this guy really is.

I have seen the picture of the blood covered bed and it made me cringe|.

Jason Gideon, you are a bad guy with an obvious deep seated hatred of women. You have no morals or values. Why did you not tell about the provider you made an appointment with and then asked for a discount because you would write her an awesome review and then when she said no, you NSNC her?

Guys, watch out for this guy because i know for a fact he will try to stab you in the back and/or cockblock you.

Jason you really should seek professional help before you go too far one day and do damage that won't heal in a few days. Originally Posted by Sport0728

...and the idiot took pictures of a woman being tortured?

Eh....

...and then he posted the pictures ONLINE for others to see?

Oh yeah, Jason, you just caught yourself a case.

Kelsey, I strongly suggest that you consider taking up legal actions for this bullshit. Your chances may be slim because you waited so long to make a police report...but you still have evidence of battery...the pictures that JG posted!

Was you smiling when the pictures were taken? If not, I would press charges and file suit. I know a damned good Lawyer here in Dallas who is expert on personal injury cases!

Hopefully you can win and gain financial restitution to make up for your $50 and MUCH more.

Kelsey,

I am sincerely sorry to hear about this happening to you. I hope you are doing better. This Jason Gideon's behavior is clearly unacceptable. I applaud you for posting this in the open forum so everyone can see it and I show my expression of approval. He slapped you in the face, he left bite marks and hickey marks all over your body. This man's mind was clearly in another world while this was going on all while you were telling him no, no, no, and to stop, stop, stop and told him to leave more than once that this was not ok. You are very lucky that he stopped.....

I would be willing to bet if my .45 long colt revolver was in your nightstand and you were able to grab it and just cock the hammer back, cause it makes a distinct click, click, click noise when you cock the hammer back... If he couldn't hear you telling him no and to stop, he would have definitely heard that noise.... Then he would have been looking down the business end of the barrel.... Change of underwear please...

Men, while a lot of us are not the sharpest knifes in the drawer, before we contact a lady, we already know how much their donation is.... Come on Jason, go blow smoke up someone else's ass.... You are making us look stupid dude... These ladies don't want to fuck stupid men ? Maybe they do. prove me wrong...

I posted an Alert in the Dallas Alerts section for a young provider named Charming Charlie about 6 months ago who was raped by her client for all of you ladies to see and PM me so I could share all of his details and information with you, and hoping you ladies could get his information to other ladies and put him on the National Blacklist cause this young lady pleaded with this man, screaming at the top of her lungs for him to please stop and to stop forcing himself on her... I want you to know over 30 ladies PM'ed me for his information. Kaylee, Sami, Jaci, Roxy28, DallasRain, Mariah Moore, TheOriginalDannie just to name a few that I can remember and you ladies were extremely helpful and supportive in this situation.... Thank you for your support...

Booji, I'm not trying to determine your opinion about anything. I corrected you about something you read inaccurately, that's all. I read everything about it - before any names were mentioned in the Men's Lounge, His Review, and this thread by Kelsey. I drew my own conclusion that there was ample evidence to pick which side of the fence I wanted to stand on, because being a Perve is one thing, but being physically abusive to someone who has told you to STOP and could not have known the level of what he is really capable of beforehand, well that in my book is UNACCEPTABLE.

Of course there is 'more to the story', we weren't there !! Duh, I didn't need to know anymore after she said STOP and his review...You make your judgements, I don't care, so don't get all pissy when others want to correct you OR defend your position because you chose to put it out there. The mob didn't make you get involved, you brought this on yourself !! ...Oops, there I go, laying it on thick again. Originally Posted by ManSlut

Since I was called out for being full of shit let me defend myself a little bit.
I know nether JG or the OP.

Not being allowed to reveal ROS info this will be a little touchy but
there is JGs post on this thread.

Very simple really, when you have two statements about an event
you look for what they have in common (What both parties agree on)
what they have that differs and what you call pivoting factors.

The pivoting factors are things you look for that would lend credibility
to one side or the other. Has to be as objective as possible.

Things they have in common, or agree on.

1 She was shorted $50 dollars and never got it.
2 Rough sex was involved.
3 The session was not good. (But for different reasons stated)

Things they disagree on

Her-She didn't know what he was into.
Him-He told her what he was into and she said she was game
and got her permission first.

Her-She said for him to stop because it was too much for her
and he didn't.
Him-She said for him to stop because it was too much for her
and he did.

Pivoting factors

1 She had a deep concern for the $50 dollars that he shorted
her even after her claim of great abuse and a failure on his part
to stop the abuse after numerous requests on her part for him
to do so, why do I say deep concern. No or what seems like
very little regard for her future safety around him, even asking
him to bring it back right away. Not normal behavior for the
claimed situation.

2 She claims she had no or very little knowledge of the fact
that he liked rough and nothing on his part to let her know
until I guess the session began and then came the surprise.

3 Has this behavior been demonstrated by him before in sessions
with other girls, I know of no other alerts like this one on him.
Is there any other girls that have or would come forward with
the same kind of claims, happening during a session with him.

4 This thread is posted after a no review is given by him but
claims are made that she alerted other providers about the
situation before it was posted.

The question is not whether the rough sex occurred
or even if it was too rough, the question is did he stop when
she asked him to.

Because both agree that it was too rough for her liking, he
claims that he stopped and she claims that he didn't.

She also claims to have pictures and certain other proofs
to back up her side of the story.

Take out the shorting of the $50 dollars and would any of this
have seen the light of day?

Why were the police not called if the level of abuse was such?

And lastly, why would he short her $50 if he got what he wanted?
that would be rather odd on his part and a very important factor
in this situation. Did he know ahead of time that it would make
his story look more credible, because it dose, any lawyer could
tell you that, just seems unlikely on his part to have that much
foresight, has he ever shorted any other providers?

Or was he upset with her objections and that is why he shorted her?

That would seem odd also because he called her and they were
talking about the $50 dollars, not how he beat her ass and she
was going to the police or how he had better not show his
face around there ever again but about the$50 dollars and how
she was going to get it back, $50 freakin dollars and she just
got her ass beat, sorry trying to remain objective here.



I'm not trying to make any judgments here or take any sides.
Just showing in a pretty poor and rusty fashion ( I don't have
any of the statements before me to look at) what I was talking
about in my earlier post.

And I will be the first to say that it is a pretty poor example.

And it also shows that without direct knowledge of the situation
a subjective opinion is what will be demonstrated by most people.

Women are beat, raped, and/or abused daily in this country and only a small fraction ever make it to a police officer's desk. Victims struggle with telling people their story sometimes... you know what if you don't get it then I'm not gonna waste my time trying to explain it.

Since I was called out for being full of shit let me apologize to Kelsey for jumping to conclusions when I didn't read her post properly or look at her showcase prior to posting. I am not Magnum P.I. like I thought I was despite watching several episodes of inspector gadget. Originally Posted by bojulay

Fixed it for you to show you what an apology looks like since you haven't learned yet.

Since I was called out for being full of shit let me defend myself a little bit.
I know nether JG or the OP.

Not being allowed to reveal ROS info this will be a little touchy but
there is JGs post on this thread.

Very simple really, when you have two statements about an event
you look for what they have in common (What both parties agree on)
what they have that differs and what you call pivoting factors.

The pivoting factors are things you look for that would lend credibility
to one side or the other. Has to be as objective as possible.

Things they have in common, or agree on.

1 She was shorted $50 dollars and never got it.
2 Rough sex was involved.
3 The session was not good. (But for different reasons stated)

Things they disagree on

Her-She didn't know what he was into.
Him-He told her what he was into and she said she was game
and got her permission first.

Her-She said for him to stop because it was too much for her
and he didn't.
Him-She said for him to stop because it was too much for her
and he did.

Pivoting factors

1 She had a deep concern for the $50 dollars that he shorted
her even after her claim of great abuse and a failure on his part
to stop the abuse after numerous requests on her part for him
to do so, why do I say deep concern. No or what seems like
very little regard for her future safety around him, even asking
him to bring it back right away. Not normal behavior for the
claimed situation.

2 She claims she had no or very little knowledge of the fact
that he liked rough and nothing on his part to let her know
until I guess the session began and then came the surprise.

3 Has this behavior been demonstrated by him before in sessions
with other girls, I know of no other alerts like this one on him.
Is there any other girls that have or would come forward with
the same kind of claims, happening during a session with him.

4 This thread is posted after a no review is given by him but
claims are made that she alerted other providers about the
situation before it was posted.

The question is not whether the rough sex occurred
or even if it was too rough, the question is did he stop when
she asked him to.

Because both agree that it was too rough for her liking, he
claims that he stopped and she claims that he didn't.

She also claims to have pictures and certain other proofs
to back up her side of the story.

Take out the shorting of the $50 dollars and would any of this
have seen the light of day?

Why were the police not called if the level of abuse was such?


I'm not trying to make any judgments here or take any sides.
Just showing in a pretty poor and rusty fashion ( I don't have
any of the statements before me to look at) what I was talking
about in my earlier post.

And I will be the first to say that it is a pretty poor example.

And it also shows that without direct knowledge of the situation
a subjective opinion is what will be demonstrated by most people. Originally Posted by bojulay

So, in a nutshell....

Maybe he would've left the rest of the $50 if he severely beat her ass like he wanted to?

Makes sense to me!

I responded to the review as well...and I had no idea this was going on and the only people who truly know are Jason and Kelsey. If you ladies have seen Jason's reviews, he does like to get rough. He's not exactly a newbie and thought the word gets out on us clients and our session activities with y'all.

Just as we research you Providers, y'all need to research us.
Hope you're OK, Kelsey. I think it took guts for you to put this up here knowing the negative feedback you might get and the unknown consequences to your business.

Women are beat, raped, and/or abused daily in this country and only a small fraction ever make it to a police officer's desk. Victims struggle with telling people their story sometimes... you know what if you don't get it then I'm not gonna waste my time trying to explain it. Originally Posted by KenMonk

Well what percentage of those women got online and posted about it on an escort board? I'd figure if you have enough time to say your ass got beat on the Internet, then you certainly have enough time to report to the authorities.

We are not talking about domestic violence sweetheart. We are talking about some unnecessary bullshit that went down.

Luckily, she is still ALIVE to even let this be known what happened to her.

Even if she doesn't report, she has certainly caught my attention and the attention of other providers here who will look out this brute.

Well what percentage of those women got online and posted about it on an escort board? I'd figure if you have enough time to say your ass got beat on the Internet, then you certainly have enough time to report to the authorities.

We are not talking about domestic violence sweetheart. We are talking about some unnecessary bullshit that went down.

Luckily, she is still ALIVE to even let this be known what happened to her. Originally Posted by brownsugarbaby

Many women are afraid to go to the authorities because it happened within an illegal hobby. Not saying that's the right decision, but many will tell their fellow providers and not report it to authorities.

We aren't talking about domestic violence, but we ARE talking about violence.

Once she says STOP and he doesn't stop, then that crosses the line. It doesn't matter how much he's "known" for those types of sessions or how much research she did or didn't do on him. If she says it's too much or says STOP, he should do it. Anything beyond that is violence.

many women are afraid to go to the authorities because it happened within an illegal hobby.

We aren't talking about domestic violence, but we ARE talking about violence.

Once she says STOP and he doesn't stop, then that crosses the line. It doesn't matter how much he's "known" for those types of sessions. If she says it's too much or says STOP, he should do it. Anything beyond that is violence. Originally Posted by still-asleep

Bullshit.

Who in court is going to make out a POINT that this was a "session" between a hooker and a John? Who is going to persecute the "victim" when is was obvious a form/act of violence occurred?

Even if the authorities wanted to use JG's reviews as some sort of "evidence", they would purely see that this man is very sadistic and abusive. This is more than the story of a man who paid $ to put his dick in them. This is a man who paid $ and abused a woman. That is the crime alone because the court would have pictures of Kelsey's body for evidence. (Who would really go that far to prove the factuality of a review on a fantasy website).

Are you familiar with the BDSM community?

Do you not realize that professionals (who often exchange these acts for tribute) WRITE
Contracts and sometimes are represented by lawyers? (IN THE EVENT THAT THE SUBMISSIVE IS INJURED?)

Hands-on domination is something that has to be done very carefully. All things must be taken into consideration. The submissive must ALWAYS have a right to safety.

EDIT: Real BDSM is not a spectator sport and is not something that a guy can ask for and just receive. Pulling on a woman's hair, slapping her, and hitting her AGAINST HER WILL is simply abuse! . EVEN if you are doing it to her WITH her consent and she it NOT AROUSED, well...you shouldn't be doing it anyway! When done right, S/M is pleasurable for both parties.

Apparently, JG did not do his research or his contracts!

Fixed it for you to show you what an apology looks like since you haven't learned yet. Originally Posted by still-asleep

Try again teddy boy. Looks like your the one that can't read.
I only asked her a question in those posts no accusations
were made by me. Where would some apology fit into that.

Asked it based on the fact that I thought her fee was 250.
That is the way it looked to me from her statement, "he counted
out 250" I got the impression that she was watching him do it,
later she said that she recounted it giving the impression that
it had been counted by her before.

You and poo bear and tigger go play in the forest now.

Bullshit.

Who in court is going to make out a POINT that this was a "session" between a hooker and a John? Who is going to persecute the "victim" when is was obvious a form/act of violence occurred?

Even if the authorities wanted to use JG's reviews as some sort of "evidence", they would purely see that this man is very sadistic and abusive. This is more than the story of a man who paid $ to put his dick in them. This is a man who paid $ and abused a woman. That is the crime alone because the court would have pictures of Kelsey's body for evidence. (Who would really go that far to prove the factuality of a review on a fantasy website).

Are you familiar with the BDSM community?

Do you not realize that professionals (who often exchange these acts for tribute) WRITE
Contracts and sometimes are represented by lawyers? (IN THE EVENT THAT THE SUBMISSIVE IS INJURED?)

Hands-on domination is something that has to be done very carefully. All things must be taken into consideration. The submissive must ALWAYS have a right to safety.

EDIT: Real BDSM is not a spectator sport and is not something that a guy can ask for and just receive. Pulling on a woman's hair, slapping her, and hitting her AGAINST HER WILL is simply abuse! . EVEN if you are doing it to her WITH her consent and she it NOT AROUSED, well...you shouldn't be doing it anyway! When done right, S/M is pleasurable for both parties.

Apparently, JG did not do his research or his contracts! Originally Posted by brownsugarbaby

Step back a minute and re-read what I said... I agree with you that it's a crime. We're on the same side of the argument here.

I simply said many providers are afraid to report it, that's all, because it takes place in the hobby. I didn't say they SHOULDN'T report it. In fact, she definitely should have reported it to the police as assault if she asked him to stop and he did not.