Rates

YD...I understand where you are coming from with Captain K, BUT...I think part of where he is coming from on this, is that the ladies are charging ALOT more then they used to, but the service is DECLINING. From that perspective I would say that it's not too much to ask providers to drop their rates if they aren't providing the same outstanding service. I earn roughly twice as much today, as I did 10 years ago...my hourly rate for time has definitely gone up! BUT....my level of service and expertise has ALSO improved exponentially over that time! Make sense?

BD! I can't stop laughing at your posts! "Hooker Math!"....there is no logic! PRICELESS! And...exactly the point here! It really doesn't make any sense. This is because you really can't put a price on something that is SOOO diverse....that being the individuality of every woman on this earth. I've been asked before, "What do you think I'm worth"? A total trick question, that I absolutely won't answer. It's impossible to answer. So...I think most ladies just throw a ball up in the air, with different prices on them, and whatever lands up in their hand when it comes down...that's what they charge.

YD...I understand where you are coming from with Captain K, BUT...I think part of where he is coming from on this, is that the ladies are charging ALOT more then they used to, but the service is DECLINING. From that perspective I would say that it's not too much to ask providers to drop their rates if they aren't providing the same outstanding service. I earn roughly twice as much today, as I did 10 years ago...my hourly rate for time has definitely gone up! BUT....my level of service and expertise has ALSO improved exponentially over that time! Make sense? Originally Posted by bigkansas1

Indeed! And in that aspect I have to agree. And cap you're right better service deserves better pay. This is why while I was waitressing and bartending I would not work in places where the girls split tips. I wasn't going to split tips with someone who is standing around being lazy while I bust my butt. I can't speak for the quality of service in Kansas City vs. anywhere else, but I can still stick to my guns when I say if the girl isn't priced in your range just shut up and go on to the next one who is. Stop bitching, for every amount there is a fool willing to give it
And for every service there is someone out there who considers that quality.Why continue whining about it. Prices are going up & quality is going down in everything except me LOL

I dont know this would help the discussion but inflation rate is 7.5%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/10/janu...-expected.html

If someone is way above my range I move on as YD suggests.

And your an exception or exceptional YD whichever way you'd like it. I understand folks saying just move on if you don't like someones rate or what your expecting for said donation. I think the reason for this discussion, (not that it will have ANY effect on the outcome), is its just not that simple. Might be the reason this thread has tracked this long with so many comments. The influx of ladies visiting with rates literally 5 or 6 TIMES what used to be the norm, has at least IMHO caused a ripple effect not only on other visitors but some locals as well who have at least doubled the rates they charged recently. Sorry, but the cost of living simply doesn't explain that away. Yes, most of us gents make more then we used to, but our pay, (at least mine) didn't double in the last year, and surely not 5 to 6 times. This has made it problematic for many hobbiests. Most certainly there are ladies such as yourself and Dallas and a handful of others who still provide a first rate experience and a reasonable donation, ( and I for one thank you for that by the way), but all the group as a whole has seen a drastic reduction in viable options at what many consider a reasonable donation, so this is a topic of conversation which has attracted many opinions. Everyone have fun, and play safe out there...

Here is a conversation i can visualize with a provider on rates

Hobbyist:
Snookems cant wait to see you again, been a couple years since I last saw you.
Ill do the normal 2 hrs like we've always done for $500

Provider:
I cant wait either baby...but my donation amount has gone up and now its $800...so yeah!

Hobbyist:
Huh? What do you mean?
Omg when did this happen?
Ummm...I... thought....can you grandfather me in at the 2019 rate.

Provider:
No Im sorry boo its now $800

Hobbyist:
But But But....I cant afford that cause Im on welfare.

Provider:
Well we wont be able to see each other, save up and lets catch up another day. Take care

Hobbyist:
Well shit guess I better go into the coed ML and bitch about it and the guys that are willing to pay more than he.

Provider:
Immediately after this conversation gets another message from another hobbyist with some cash and has zero problem paying the rate asked.
Appt booked
Wah wah wah

KC probably has the worst selection of whores with the worst prices. Even if you’re happy to spend $800 on these girls, it’s retarded if you do. Take some steroids, get a haircut, make a few grand extra a month, and find some better looking civilians (which KC also is very short on). Honestly, I’m glad to not be in the Midwest anymore—too many ugly hookers and fat/unattractive local population.

Wow! I don't even live near KC but I can say without hesitation there are several ladies based there that I'd LOVE to see.
And I'll be seeing 1 of them in Des Moines next week.
Pretty harsh imo.

Chalkster
I lived in Florida...
Kansas City has some of the most beautiful women in the country. Providers dont represent.
Wanna go where old ladies with sag who can nurse a baby and give themselves a pedicure at the same time live.
And then the fake ass bitches hopped up on cosmetic surgery are....go to Florida.
Its where people go to die!
Ill take the midwest any day!

Kansas City doesn't have anything on Iowa. Went up there for the Iowa state fair and was like damn where all these farmer daughters come from???

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Provider:
Immediately after this conversation gets another message from another hobbyist with some cash and has zero problem paying the rate asked.
Appt booked
Wah wah wah Originally Posted by BigDeal

Big D,
ECG saw me nearly spill my coffee over this, looked and said: "well duh".

Chalkster
I lived in Florida...
Kansas City has some of the most beautiful women in the country. Providers dont represent.
Wanna go where old ladies with sag who can nurse a baby and give themselves a pedicure at the same time live.
And then the fake ass bitches hopped up on cosmetic surgery are....go to Florida.
Its where people go to die!
Ill take the midwest any day! Originally Posted by BigDeal

BD you must of been going to the wrong places in Florida.

BD you must of been going to the wrong places in Florida. Originally Posted by Lubeman

I agree. Young ladies as well as MILFs where my place is are pretty damn hot. Providers also pretty much the same, competition is tough and rates are generally lower, however not hundreds less per hour as has been stated previously here.

Indeed! And in that aspect I have to agree. And cap you're right better service deserves better pay. This is why while I was waitressing and bartending I would not work in places where the girls split tips. I wasn't going to split tips with someone who is standing around being lazy while I bust my butt. I can't speak for the quality of service in Kansas City vs. anywhere else, but I can still stick to my guns when I say if the girl isn't priced in your range just shut up and go on to the next one who is. Stop bitching, for every amount there is a fool willing to give it
And for every service there is someone out there who considers that quality.Why continue whining about it. Prices are going up & quality is going down in everything except me LOL Originally Posted by yourdesire

+1
THANK YOU FOR SHARING COMMON SENSE AND WISDOM.

Kansas City doesn't have anything on Iowa. Went up there for the Iowa state fair and was like damn where all these farmer daughters come from??? Originally Posted by CaptainTruth

Go to the Missouri state fair and you will see the same.