We don't need no stinking papers

I have a question. If we have immigration reform, a general amnesty, and legalize every illegal in the Country, what is to stop the proccess from starting all over again the next morning?? Originally Posted by Jackie S

If you are asking what's keeping illegal aliens from flooding into the country after we grant the ones already in the country amnesty, the answer is: Nothing. And there will be more 'forgiven' citizens ready to vote for 'forgiving' politicians that will look the other way.

Another question:

When those illegal aliens are given amnesty, how long will it take for them to ask for unemployment, social security and welfare benefits?

When those illegal aliens are given amnesty, how long will it take for them to ask for unemployment, social security and welfare benefits? Originally Posted by gnadfly

They don't need "amnesty" .... it is being done as we post.

In fact, the current Congress has opened the door for their health care!

Can they have their social security and welfare checks electronically deposited across the borders? What a blow to the money transfer businesses!

Suspect in fatal shooting of teen was deported twice



By SUSAN CARROLL and MIKE GLENN
HOUSTON CHRONICLE

Aug. 12, 2010, 6:23PM




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Melvin I. Alvarado, 22, was arrested in the Aug. 7 fatal shooting of 14-year-old Shatavia Anderson.







The suspect in the fatal shooting of a 14-year-old Houston girl was an illegal immigrant from El Salvador who previously was deported twice by immigration officials, authorities said.
Melvin Alvarado, 22, was convicted of two separate intoxicated driving offenses in Harris County in 2006 and 2007, criminal records show. He was sentenced to 60 days in jail in connection with the last arrest in November 2007.

Gregory Palmore, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman, said immigration officials removed Alvarado from the country in April 2008 and again in May 2009. Palmore said it was unclear from his records whether Alvarado was picked up directly from Harris County Jail after the last intoxicated driving conviction.
The second suspect in the fatal shooting of Shatavia Anderson on Saturday, Jonathan Lopez-Torres, 18, was a lawful permanent resident from Honduras, Palmore said. Harris County records show Lopez-Torres was arrested and accused of auto theft in February 2009. That charge was later dismissed.
The two suspects allegedly saw Anderson as merely a "target of opportunity" for an armed robbery, Houston police homicide detectives said Wednesday.
Alvarado and Lopez-Torres were charged Wednesday with capital murder in the slaying of Anderson, who was known as "Tae" to her friends and family. They were being held without bail at Harris County Jail.
Kisha Lambert, the girl's mother, was relieved when detectives called her Wednesday with the news of the arrests.
"I get to put my daughter to rest and let her know that her killers have been caught," Lambert said.
Anderson was shot in the back while she was walking home to her northside apartment in the 1100 block of Langwick. She was last seen alive around 12:30 a.m.
Alvarado fled after grabbing some of the girl's belongings, including jewelry, a cell phone and her purse, police said. The purse was found in the woods near the teen's body around 9 a.m., said Sgt. Billy Bush of the Houston police homicide division.
A witness saw the shooting and gave investigators sufficient details about the suspect for a composite sketch. The same witness later identified Alvarado as the killer, police said.
Lopez-Torres was the driver, police said. He dropped Alvarado off after the pair saw Anderson walking alone on the street, police said.
"It was very cruel," Lambert said of her daughter's slaying. "She didn't have nothing worth them taking her life over."
Lopez-Torres was taken into custody late Tuesday and brought to HPD headquarters for questioning. Alvarado surrendered later, police said.
"They pretty much gave up each other," said Chris Sturdivant, an HPD homicide detective.
Bush called the capture of the two suspects "the most fulfilling thing I've ever done."
"She was 14, plain and simple," he said. "It was tough, but we've got them in custody. They're off the street."

One thing's for sure: neither of those 2 shitbirds Joe Horn rehabilitated will ever harm a 14 year-old little girl. And one thing's a maybe: this asshole Alvorado is the spitting image of the little shitass who sideswiped my ride on the Gulf while he was doing some sign language kind of bullshit, apparently for my benefit, and kept going. Thank goodness I have excess coverage for uninsured motorists, specifically for the fucking illegal aliens.

That poor girl's parents should be in jail for letting their child walk home by herself at 12:30 in the morning.

That poor girl's parents should be in jail for letting their child walk home by herself at 12:30 in the morning. Originally Posted by enderwiggin

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If this is one of them, I say let junior "bunk" with him for a few!

For your convenience, here is the written copy of his speech.

"35 years ago if you were to tell me that I am going to stand up here speaking in English to a large group of patriots, I’d laugh at you. Every morning I wake up thanking God for putting family and me in the greatest country on earth.
I just want you all to know that the American dream does exist and I am living the American dream. I was asked to speak to you about my experience as a first generation Vietnamese American, but I rather speak to you as an American.
If you hadn’t noticed, I am not white and I feel pretty comfortable with my people.
I am a proud US citizen and here is my proof… It took me 8 years to get it, waiting in endless lines, but I got it and I am very proud of it. Guess what, I did it legally and it ain’t from the state of Hawaii.
I still remember the images of the Tet offensive in 1968. I was six years old. Now you might want to question how a 6year old boy could remember anything. Trust me, those images can never be erased. I can’t even imagine what it was like for young American soldiers, 10,000 miles away from home, fighting on my behalf.
35 years ago, I left South Vietnam to come to America for political asylum. The war had ended. At the age of 13, I left with the understanding that I may or may not ever get to see my siblings or parents again. I was one of the first lucky 100,000 Vietnamese allowed to come to the US. Somehow, my family and I were reunited 5 months later, amazingly, in California. It was a miracle from God.
If you haven’t heard lately that this is the greatest country on earth, let me tell you, IT IS!!! It is the freedom and the opportunities presented to me that put me here with all of you tonight. I also remember the barriers that I had to overcome every step of the way. My high school counselor told me that I could not make it to college due to my poor communication skills. I proved him wrong. I finished college. You see… All you have to do is to give this little boy an opportunity and encourage him to take and run with it. Well, I took the opportunities and here I am. This person standing tonight in front of you could not exist under a socialist/communist environment. By the way, if you think socialism is the way to go, I am sure many people here will chip in to get you a one-way ticket out of here. And if you didn’t know, the only difference between socialism and communism is an AK-47 aiming at your head. That was what I knew and grew up with.
In 1983, I stood with a thousand new immigrants, reciting the pledge of allegiance and listening to the National Anthem for the first time as an American. To this day, I can’t remember anything sweeter and more patriotic than that moment in my life.
Fast forwarding, somehow I finished high school, finished college, and like any other goofball 21 year old kid, I was having a great time with my life, I had a nice job and a nice apartment in Southern California. In someway and somehow, I had forgotten how I got here and why I am here.
One day I was at a gas station, I saw a veteran pumping gas on the other side of the island. I didn’t know what made me do it, but I walked over and asked if he had served in Vietnam. He smiled and said Yes. I shook and held his hand. His eyes started to well up. I walked away as fast as I could and at that very moment, I was emotionally rocked, this was a profound moment in life. I knew something had to change in my life. It was time for me to learn how to be a good citizen. It was time for me to give back.
You see… America is not place on the map; it isn’t a physical location. It is an ideal, a concept. And if you are an American, you must understand the concept, you must buy into this concept and most importantly, you have to fight and defend this concept. This is about Freedom… and not free stuff. And that is why I am standing up here. Brothers and sisters, to be a real American, the very least you must do is to learn English and understand it well. In my humble opinion, you cannot be a faithful patriotic citizen if you can’t speak the language of the country you live in. Take this document of 46 pages… Last I looked on the internet, there wasn’t a Vietnamese translation of the US constitution. It took me a long time to get to the point of being able to converse and until this day, I still struggle to come up with the right words. It’s not easy, but if it’s too easy, it’s not worth doing.
Before I got to know this 46- page document, I learned of the 500,000 Americans who fought for this little boy. I learned of the 58,000 names scribed on the black wall at the Vietnam War memorial. You are my heroes. You are my founders.
When I was eligible to vote, I went out and performed my civic duty. For all of you young people out there, who just turned 18, I encourage you to exercise your duty as an American to be an informed voter no matter where you are or what you do. America fought and died for your rights. DON’T LET HER DOWN!!!
At this time, I would like to ask all the Vietnam veterans to please stand. I thank you for my life. I thank you for your sacrifices, and I thank you for giving me the freedom and the liberties I have today. I now ask All veterans, firefighters, and police officers, to please stand. On behalf of all first generation immigrants, I thank you for your service and may God bless you all and may God bless America!"
Quang Nguyen, delivered at the Prescott Valley Freedom Rally, Prescott Valley, AZ July 24, 2010.

Semper Fi . .

self edit.

I made a silly comment to someone in earlier page of this thread not realizing it would post under about speech. My bad :-)