Communist Goals... rule... "32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc."Moron, In the USA the means of production is not controlled by the state. Therefore, the communist tag simply does not apply.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
. Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
You would be correct except about that this thing called "Deductibles" frighhhtrBlockhead, this is from your link.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamacar...sticker-shock/
You ignoramus...
oh and this, frighhhtr... http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Column...s-Higher-Costs
LOLing you! Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
http://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-chi...ment-data.htmlLL, you are telling more lies. The ACA increased enrollment by over 20 million people. Your government figures does not include people who purchased a policy on the government exchanges like Healthcare.Gov. Sixteen Million people purchase insurance on the exchanges. Subtract out the 5 million who had a policy in 2013 that would bring the increase of enrollment to 23 million people. You don't get Medicaid at healthcare.gov, you have to go to your state to get Medicaid and have an income of less than 24,000 for a family of four. How many times are going to confuse Medicaid with a private health insurance plan?
http://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-chi...lment-data.pdf
There are about 90 million people on "medicaid" .... of those about 12 million were an increase based on the "expanded" coverage, back to 2013.
Basically, the "Affordable Care Act" increased enrollment by around 12 million. That's according to Government figures.
How many billions of dollars did getting 12 million people signed up cost? Originally Posted by LexusLover
LL, you are telling more lies. The ACA increased enrollment by over 20 million people. Your government figures does not include people who purchased a policy on the government exchanges like Healthcare.Gov. Sixteen Million people purchase insurance on the exchanges. Subtract out the 5 million who had a policy in 2013 that would bring the increase of enrollment to 23 million people. You don't get Medicaid at healthcare.gov, you have to go to your state to get Medicaid and have an income of less than 24,000 for a family of four. How many times are going to confuse Medicaid with a private health insurance plan?
This link has 11.7 million people who purchased a private plan on the government exchanges. Add this number with the 12 million number from LL's link, substract out 5 million who had a policy in 2013 and you get more than 18 million more insured from 2013. The point being in LL's post there isn't a count for anyone purchasing a private plan on the government exchanges.Have you used it, do you have a policy through it? I do and I can tell you in all honesty it sucks. If I stay in network I have a 1500 dollar deductible, if I go outside of network my deductible is 15000.00. Guess what how many in network endocrinologists do you think there are in the entire city? 3. And non are taking new patients. So now I have to either travel to St. Louis to see the doctor or go to an out of network doctor. Now I can afford $15000 but how many people cant and don't go to the doctor even though they have insurance. So please don't try to sell me on this load of crap.
By the end of open enrollment 2015, 11.7 million were enrolled in state and federal marketplaces. 5.7 million stayed on their parents plan. Over 10.8 million enrolled in Medicaid or CHIP. In total that translates to about 16.4 million less uninsured with the uninsured rate falling from a 18% high in 2013 to a current 11.9% as of March 2015.
http://obamacarefacts.com/sign-ups/o...lment-numbers/ Originally Posted by flghtr65
Have you used it, do you have a policy through it? I do and I can tell you in all honesty it sucks. If I stay in network I have a 1500 dollar deductible, if I go outside of network my deductible is 15000.00. Guess what how many in network endocrinologists do you think there are in the entire city? 3. And non are taking new patients. So now I have to either travel to St. Louis to see the doctor or go to an out of network doctor. Now I can afford $15000 but how many people cant and don't go to the doctor even though they have insurance. So please don't try to sell me on this load of crap. Originally Posted by dirty dogIf someone does not have the $15,000 that you have, then they should see the in network doctor. That would be better than being uninsured and not being able to see any doctor. Before the ACA was passed you have 40 million people who were uninsured. Fact Jack. Some health insurance is better than no health insurance. Hospitals, doctors and nurses don't work for free. I had a policy through the ACA last year, I had to use it go to the emergency room. I got charged $1,000 for an X-ray and consult with a physicans assistant, I didn't even see an MD (although on my bill it said he read the X-ray) BCBS of ILL picked up $600 and I had to pay the other $400 out of pocket. I changed jobs in 2015 and get health insurance from my employer. If I have to go back to the individual market, I would sign up through the ACA again. I did not get a subsidy in 2014, my salary was too high.
Have you used it, do you have a policy through it? I do and I can tell you in all honesty it sucks. If I stay in network I have a 1500 dollar deductible, if I go outside of network my deductible is 15000.00. Guess what how many in network endocrinologists do you think there are in the entire city? 3. And non are taking new patients. So now I have to either travel to St. Louis to see the doctor or go to an out of network doctor. Now I can afford $15000 but how many people cant and don't go to the doctor even though they have insurance. So please don't try to sell me on this load of crap. Originally Posted by dirty dogI'm calling bullshit. Your deductible is based on your monthly rate. If you have a $15K deductible, you must be paying peanuts a month. Or you're in terrible health. It's got to be one or the other.
Fluffy. He said the network doctors weren't taking new patients. What if he was poor and had to travel hundreds of miles to see a network doctor? You need to see a specialist in KoolAid poisoning. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyWhat if you quit getting drunk before noon on a motherfucking wednesday? We all have questions. If he lives in a town with only 3 endocrinologists, then he needs to move. Is it the gubment's fault he lives there?
Fluffy. He said the network doctors weren't taking new patients. What if he was poor and had to travel hundreds of miles to see a network doctor? You need to see a specialist in KoolAid poisoning. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyHundred's of miles? ILL is not that big of a state. To qualify for a private plan, you have to have some income, you can't be at the poverty level, if you need to get to St. Louis to see an in-network doctor, take a bus or put some gas in your car and go. That would be better than being uninsured and not seeing any doctor. Go Fluff Ron Paul you FUCKING IDIOT.
Speaking of five years later, I hope everyone took my advice a few years ago and put all their money in UHC or other insurance companies. At that time I had already tripled my wealth in just a few years, and now it is just astronomically, mind blowing insane how much money is to be made off this law..Not every health insurance company that is selling health insurance on the government exchanges made a profit. Did you read post #1. Assurant lost money selling health insurance on the exchanges. From post #1.
Obamacare is a license to steal for the insurance companies. With the $6500 deductible there is absolutely no payout for most of the people that are forced to give them their money for bloated policies, and they are covered under the golden hallway if they get a lot of unhealthy people. And there is no competition or anything that limits them on raising the price every year. And another and, haha, and a lot of the insurance companies are able to fire coders because there are less claims to process. They cannot lose!
UHC
July 2, 2010 - $28.30
June 26, 2015 - $123.25
Do you need a fucking calculator? I hope not
Be smart, the libs are doing all the work for you selling this to the middle class, suck them dry while it lasts! Originally Posted by nwarounder
I'm calling bullshit. Your deductible is based on your monthly rate. If you have a $15K deductible, you must be paying peanuts a month. Or you're in terrible health. It's got to be one or the other. Originally Posted by WombRaider
What if you quit getting drunk before noon on a motherfucking wednesday? We all have questions. If he lives in a town with only 3 endocrinologists, then he needs to move. Is it the gubment's fault he lives there? No it is the governments fault that the exchange only allows charges so low that none of the doctors want to sign up for it. They allow even less than Medicaid/Medicare.Your a fucking idiot, I don't live in a small town dumbass, apparently you are having reading issues. Or you are just so unwilling to believe that the system is fucked up that your talking out of your ass.
You still enjoy the lower negotiated rates that insurers get, not the 'private pay' rate. Having the insurance also protects you from getting anything seized in order to pay medical bills. Yes, it's $15K, but that's all they can get and they won't get your house, cars, etc. in order to satisfy medical bills. Originally Posted by WombRaider
