Your Bush Derangement Syndrome will cause you to highjack your own thread.1. Iraq is not stable. By virtue of us being there at all, Bush owns it. Once again, we stuck our nose where it didn't belong in order to protect the oil and it has devolved into a fuckup. What a surprise. Have you ever considered what we would do if other countries acted like we do towards them? We enjoy a relatively peaceful way of life here and yet we can't wait to march somewhere else and fuck someone else's shit up. We have a homeless problem. We have millions of people who go hungry. A large part of both groups are veterans. Let's get our fucking shit together HERE before we start telling others how they need to be doing things.
Let's recap Obama's international accomplishments:
1) Under Bush II, Iraq stabilized and Saddam overthrown. Since Obama, as one Democratic Rep put it, Iraq now consists of ISIL and Southern IRAN.
2) Yemen's President generally considered a US ally overthrown
3) Libya's Khaddafi gone, Muslim Brotherhood, ISIL in control of much of country
4) Egypt overthrows Mubarik, votes in Muslim Brotherhood, MB tossed out, Sisi in charge, Obama will not back Sisi who is anti MB...even Dims scratch heads
5) Syria in turmoil. Obama says WMDs used, then doesn't, then draws red line, then says no red line drawn, Putin pulls Obama's butt out of situ, 100K+ dead. ISIL using part of Syria as base. Obama wants to bring thousands of refugees into the US.
6) Afghanistan looks like it would have been lost too but Obama reluctantly will leave a contingency force. Just a matter of time.
7) Iran will get a nuke, again just a matter of whether it will be directly on Obama's watch or not. "Arab Spring" opportunity lost.
Yep, Obama's legacy will haunt us. Originally Posted by gnadfly
2. This doesn't make sense. Clarify.
3. ISIS is a direct effect of our invasion of Iraq. You would think, after doing it so many times, we would stop picking sides in civil wars only to have those troops we trained and weapons we provided turned back around on us.
4. Again, we need to stay out of other countries' internal affairs.
5. Syria was a fuck up, no doubt about it. His inability to make a call hurt us there.
6. It's like Vietnam, no invading force can seem to be victorious there
7. No they won't. Especially not not, with the hawk still in power. Israel will bomb them before they get it.