There is no war on cops

Crime is down. Where have you been? Originally Posted by WombRaider
So if you know crime is down, why don't you explain why it's down. I'll start you off by saying this. The increase in incarceration has shown to have only very small influence on the reduction in crime.

Jim
So if you know crime is down, why don't you explain why it's down. I'll start you off by saying this. The increase in incarceration has shown to have only very small influence on the reduction in crime.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin
There are several theories as to why crime is down. Incarceration is generally thought to account for 10-20 percent of the overall reduction. Clinton increased funding in the 90s for police and departments across the country were able to put more cops on the street. Simply having more cops on the beat likely had an effect on the rates declining. Certain tactics like broken windows and hot spot policing have also been effective when they are used. Hot spot, when it was studied, actually worked AND it didn't simply move the crime to other areas. In other words, it wasn't a false reduction, it actually improved.

Different tactics have worked in different cities, but while they may all reduce crime, some can lead to mistrust between the police and the community they're policing. New York City, for example, saw a large drop in crime due to stop and frisk but that tactic created an adversarial relationship between the community and the police who were patrolling that community. So was it worth it? DC saw a significant decline using community-based policing and concentrated on building trust with the citizens. Other big cities have seen declines and didn't achieve it by putting more cops on the beat, but through a combination of community-based policing and the broken windows approach.

There's no one way to reduce crime. Each community is unique and several large cities have seen a drop and they all used different tactics.
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There are several theories as to why crime is down. Incarceration is generally thought to account for 10-20 percent of the overall reduction. Clinton increased funding in the 90s for police and departments across the country were able to put more cops on the street. Simply having more cops on the beat likely had an effect on the rates declining. Certain tactics like broken windows and hot spot policing have also been effective when they are used. Hot spot, when it was studied, actually worked AND it didn't simply move the crime to other areas. In other words, it wasn't a false reduction, it actually improved.

Different tactics have worked in different cities, but while they may all reduce crime, some can lead to mistrust between the police and the community they're policing. New York City, for example, saw a large drop in crime due to stop and frisk but that tactic created an adversarial relationship between the community and the police who were patrolling that community. So was it worth it? DC saw a significant decline using community-based policing and concentrated on building trust with the citizens. Other big cities have seen declines and didn't achieve it by putting more cops on the beat, but through a combination of community-based policing and the broken windows approach.

There's no one way to reduce crime. Each community is unique and several large cities have seen a drop and they all used different tactics. Originally Posted by WombRaider
You make good points, and it appears hot spot policing should be expanded.

Additionally, I think cameras have had a good effect for detecting crime, as well as a deterrent. Several times when burglaries have occurred near my bakery, the cops have come by to get footage that showed the crooks in action.

Once, the idiot who robbed the place next door actually was wearing an orange cap, which my cameras showed the dumb asshole putting on after he got out of his car, which he parked on my lot. They snagged him after they read his license plate, identified him as a suspect, then went to talk to him. He confessed - case closed.
Crime is down in KC, but not murders. Murders are up from last year.
Crime is down in KC, but not murders. Murders are up from last year. Originally Posted by i'va biggen
Have you all had any more of that Ferguson style " redistribution of wealth " and "ghetto urban renewal " since last year ?
Have you all had any more of that Ferguson style " redistribution of wealth " and "ghetto urban renewal " since last year ? Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
Have you all had any more of that Ferguson style " redistribution of wealth " and "ghetto urban renewal " since last year ? Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
Ferguson is in the other side of the state, but no with a black mayor, and police chief not as much between police and citizens. The blacks are just busy shooting each other, and drive by's. Seven of the ones killed were sixteen and under.
Originally Posted by WombRaider
There are several theories as to why crime is down. Incarceration is generally thought to account for 10-20 percent of the overall reduction. Clinton increased funding in the 90s for police and departments across the country were able to put more cops on the street. Simply having more cops on the beat likely had an effect on the rates declining. Certain tactics like broken windows and hot spot policing have also been effective when they are used. Hot spot, when it was studied, actually worked AND it didn't simply move the crime to other areas. In other words, it wasn't a false reduction, it actually improved.

Different tactics have worked in different cities, but while they may all reduce crime, some can lead to mistrust between the police and the community they're policing. New York City, for example, saw a large drop in crime due to stop and frisk but that tactic created an adversarial relationship between the community and the police who were patrolling that community. So was it worth it? DC saw a significant decline using community-based policing and concentrated on building trust with the citizens. Other big cities have seen declines and didn't achieve it by putting more cops on the beat, but through a combination of community-based policing and the broken windows approach.

There's no one way to reduce crime. Each community is unique and several large cities have seen a drop and they all used different tactics. Originally Posted by WombRaider
Although Police are using different tactics that seem to reduce crime, it's not just what police are doing that reduces crime, but also the overall changes in our society's demographics. It's always been said that young people account for most of the crime in America. The median age in America is rising, in the 90's the median age was 32 years old in the early 2000's it was 35 years old. Government intervention is another crime reducer. The number of people receiving Government benefits has spiked over the past twenty years. Believe it or not even Social Media has even played a part in reducing crime.

Jim
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Clinton increased funding in the 90s for police and departments across the country were able to put more cops on the street. Originally Posted by WombRaider
You bought that song and dance, too, I see.
Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
Originally Posted by WombRaider
Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
Originally Posted by WombRaider
Wrong AGAIN GLORYHOLE GURU ! Once AGAIN, you try to read into someone else's statement what YOU want it to say. Back to the 'holes with you, EUNUCH ! Go practice your rimming and rusty trombone playing ! You're so fucked up in your feeble cum drunk mind, that you'll probably advertise your rusty trombone playing as a jazz concert !
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Wrong AGAIN GLORYHOLE GURU ! Once AGAIN, you try to read into someone else's statement what YOU want it to say. Back to the 'holes with you, EUNUCH ! Go practice your rimming and rusty trombone playing ! You're so fucked up in your feeble cum drunk mind, that you'll probably advertise your rusty trombone playing as a jazz concert ! Originally Posted by Rey Lengua
There has got to be a slimy one in there somewhere?