High end market

No one is going to pay thousands of dollars for just dinner and conversation.

There are those that pay that and more for eye candy.

Also, when paying for a HDH I feel that the intimate services might not be the entire part of the date, but they have to be a major, vital factor and driving force of paying those high fees. So thats why I feel that any man who pays $1000 for a date would prefer BBBJ over CBJ. BCD services are important in escorting, HDH or not. Those BCD services play a vital roll. No one is going to pay thousands of dollars for just dinner and conversation. Originally Posted by incognito isis

It's not only with HDHs. Most of my clients are more into the companionship than anything. They like the kissing, cuddling and chatting. They enjoy taking me shopping and having dinner with me. I saw older guys and enjoyed it.

While I think that part of the reason "safe GFEs" short themselves is because of review boards. I don't put all the blame on review boards. Some ladies tend to forget about the men that don't write reviews, you know? The clients not the hobbyists. You know the ones that pay for the session and go back to their lives and not spend a waking moment on a hooker board. They did not research well before entering this business.They don't even know that such men exist. A lady can make a living without the review boards. I did it. However, there are some providers that can't make a living without it. One does not need to be apart of the review board to get business. They will never understand it and will continue to break their boundaries for these men.

I was reading TER where a man told a newbie provider that she had to CIM to make any money in this business. You and I both know that's not true. I've always found the act gross btw.. but that's just me .

Isis, You said no one will pay thousands for dinner and conversation. You'd be surprised. A friend of mine that lives in vegas was paid $10k just to watch someone gamble. That's insane to me. I know a lot of dancers that are paid $500-$800 to just chat for the entire night. It all comes down to this: Some people just have more money to spend than others.

In my personal experience, I have been paid as little as 300hr and as much as 2K for 1 hour,and everywhere in between... Every experience was different, some were strictly sexual, whilst others were simply for companionship, dinner, theatre, movie screenings, to be arm candy etc...In London I charge 9,000 GBP for a weekend (which is around 15,000 USD....). Now from my personal experiences, anytime I have ever had a weekend getaway with a bloke, it was more than just companionship, I have yet to encounter a client who paid me 9,000 quid and didn't expect BCD time. I am not saying there aren't guys out there who don't expect BCD time, I can only speak for my personal experiences....just my .02

Isis, You said no one will pay thousands for dinner and conversation. You'd be surprised. A friend of mine that lives in vegas was paid $10k just to watch someone gamble. That's insane to me. I know a lot of dancers that are paid $500-$800 to just chat for the entire night. It all comes down to this: Some people just have more money to spend than others. Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Absolutely right...I have been paid thousands for nights OUT, no BCD time. It simply depends on the guy, and a lot of the ones that have more money than they know what to do with won't think twice about dropping a few grand to go out and be seen with a beautiful lady. Hec, I have a client in Nashville,TN that pays me 2K for 2 hours, he knows that isn't my rate for that area, but that's what he pays me...

Wow, I wish someone would pay me thousands of dollars to just chat, gamle, dine, watch t.v. and hang out with no BCD activities. Actually, that would be perfection!!!

Naomi, yes some women cannot make a living without these boards and some can. I do not use Eccie or any other chat boards for advertising. I do use p411 and another site, plus I have my own website with reviews listed. I consider myself to be a low advertising provider. I come to Eccie stricly for conversation. Sorry I'm getting off track here again.

Yes, some providers short themselves because of these boards. It's unfortunite too. Another provider here, an older lady, said that during the 80's and 90's ALL providers did CBJ. Then the internet came and mens opinions started to dominate the industry. Women eventually began to feel pressured into BBBJ, because now men had first hand knowledge of who did BBBJ vs CBJ. The women who did BBBJ were getting more clients. Now, here we are in 2011 and BBBJ is the norm.

Interesting.......

Wow, I wish someone would pay me thousands of dollars to just chat, gamle, dine, watch t.v. and hang out with no BCD activities. Actually, that would be perfection!!! Originally Posted by incognito isis

Yeah the kicker was he would give her money to gamble with too. She was his good luck charm I guess. With my luck, that man would have hated me by the end of the night. I am totally clueless when it comes to gambling. I would have lost all his money.. HA!

Isn't that site www.whatsyourprice.com dedicated to men that just want companionship .. and not sex ?

lets hope she is high class without disgusting tatts to ask for thousands.... yuck!!!! Originally Posted by lovely76

Oh but my dear you'd be surprised the amount who will pay it, even with all my "disgusting" tattoos ...

I dunno about the camera phone picks in front of your toilet room mirror though, you may want to re-evaluate those if you are wanting to charge a bit more.. ...just a suggestion love

Oh but my dear you'd be surprised the amount who will pay it, even with all my "disgusting" tattoos ... Originally Posted by Valerie

I was going to say that but decided to leave that one alone.

Sure there are men that don't like tattoos. However, there are a lot of guys that do love them and don't mind. Just like there are guys that don't like bbws and men that only see bbws. I didn't get that tattoo comment either. I don't like tattoos or piercings on my body but I wouldn't call them "disgusting".

Naomi, yes some women cannot make a living without these boards and some can. I do not use Eccie or any other chat boards for advertising. I do use p411 and another site, plus I have my own website with reviews listed. Originally Posted by incognito isis

Ahhh Isis I am so curious about you.

Yes, some providers short themselves because of these boards. It's unfortunite too. Another provider here, an older lady, said that during the 80's and 90's ALL providers did CBJ. Then the internet came and mens opinions started to dominate the industry. Women eventually began to feel pressured into BBBJ, because now men had first hand knowledge of who did BBBJ vs CBJ. The women who did BBBJ were getting more clients. Now, here we are in 2011 and BBBJ is the norm.

Interesting.......

Interesting for sure. When one starts to do that .. it doesn't end well. It's always good for a lady to stick to her guns/not break her boundaries in this business. When you cater to everyone, you appeal to noone. As for me, I didn't engage in greek or CIM . One guy told me he wouldn't see me because of it .. and I told him to fuck off. .

It's very easy to get $500 an hour without the review boards. Just hang out in the Ritz Carlton Lounge for an hour and see what happens... or is that just me? LOL!

Oh but my dear you'd be surprised the amount who will pay it, even with all my "disgusting" tattoos ... Originally Posted by Valerie

Valerie, your tatoos are beautiful...
I didn't understand the comment either. I mean, yes, some people have sloppy ink jobs but not everyone.

I think the worse tatoos are the ones that have been faded and look blurry. If I'm not mistaken, don't you have to go and get a touch up every 2 years or so to keep the tatoo looking "fresh"?

I was going to say that but decided to leave that one alone.

Sure there are men that don't like tattoos. However, there are a lot of guys that do love them and don't mind. Just like there are guys that don't like bbws and men that only see bbws. I didn't get that tattoo comment either. I don't like tattoos or piercings on my body but I wouldn't call them "disgusting". Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Of all my encounters with gents, not once have I had a complaint about my tats, in fact quite the opposite! I've have conservative old men go mad over them, I've had people who aren't normally "tattoo" people see mine and love them....

Personally, I don't agree that "disgusting" is the proper adjective to describe them, but everyone's entitled to their opinions...Even if they're cheeky ones

Ahhh Isis I am so curious about you.




Interesting for sure. When one starts to do that .. it doesn't end well. It's always good for a lady to stick to her guns/not break her boundaries in this business. When you cater to everyone, you appeal to noone. As for me, I didn't engage in greek or CIM . One guy told me he wouldn't see me because of it .. and I told him to fuck off. .

It's very easy to get $500 an hour without the review boards. Just hang out in the Ritz Carlton Lounge for an hour and see what happens... or is that just me? LOL! Originally Posted by Naomi4u

You told him to fuck off! LOL I love it!!! As far as being curious about me, theres really nothing mysterious about me. I'm a provider, not a HDH or anything ultra exciting. I do have a curious mind and in the beginning of my membership here everyone accused me of being a writer. I'm not a writer or a reporter, not writing any books, no articles in magazines, I'm not the person whos been calling escorts with interview questions, etc. Plus, if I was a writer I think my typing would be better LOL.

I too find it interesting how some ladies need these boards and some don't. So far, I've never needed these forum sites for buisiness.

And I can't believe some a-hole told a poor newby she had to do CIM. I don't do CIM or greek either. Alot of providers don't.

Valerie, your tatoos are beautiful...
I didn't understand the comment either. I mean, yes, some people have sloppy ink jobs but not everyone.

I think the worse tatoos are the ones that have been faded and look blurry. If I'm not mistaken, don't you have to go and get a touch up every 2 years or so to keep the tatoo looking "fresh"? Originally Posted by incognito isis

Thank you...that comment was a hater comment, I'm certainly not going to loose any sleep over it!

I agree that some tattoos can be a bit dodgy, I'm not really keen on tats that aren't original, or when girls turn 18 and decide to go get a bloody ladybug or butterfly plastered on them. To me that lacks creativity, I view tattoos as works of art and ways people express themselves, not something you should just go have done because your drunk or think it's "cool". Every single one of mine have a very special meaning to me

... I've had people who aren't normally "tattoo" people see mine and love them....
...Even if they're cheeky ones Originally Posted by Valerie

Yah, that's me...not a tatoo guy...but didn't find Val's artwork was at all "disgusting"....have to admit though, it was hard for me to see anything with my eyes rolled back in my head or with me locked on to that hypnotic stare of hers and those little sparkly things going off in my brain.....but that's just me....

Okay, you two, get (another) room!