The new economy and the $80 escort (or "business is not slow")

IF there were super model hot girls in Dallas, they could charge top dollar but since there are not, many of us guys choose to see the fresher and less tainted and torn up ones that are found elsewhere.

Did you bother to look at the 2 reviews I linked? BOTH of those ladies are c loser to model builds on their bodies than almost all the ECCIE verified providers who have posted in this thread, if not ALL of the ECCIE verified providers who have posted to this thread.
Originally Posted by LazurusLong

Ok, if you say so..lol

You ought to see the hissy fits they are having in the Powder Room over this thread..... Originally Posted by LazurusLong

Funny, I must have missed that thread. No sense trying to stir the pot and make guys "think" this is actually important enough to talk about behind your backs. Now if you really want to share in PR conversations, please, by all means, tell us which brand and size tampon you prefer. What about when you have PMS? Do you prefer Midol or just a heating pad? Which brand douche makes you smell the freshest? There, now you can be a part of the ladies world. Do you feel better?

And I know plenty of people who pulled Recaro factory seats out of BMW E30's and dropped them into plenty of Fords, especially Mustangs, because they liked the way the seat felt but didn't want to pay the upcharge just for better handling when they did mostly straight line driving. Originally Posted by LazurusLong

So in essence what you are saying then, is that even at the cheaper price, you still didn't quite get the ride you wanted, so you had to make substitutions using parts of the more expensive model to bring it up to your standards and comfort level? Hmm, talk about irony.

I had a whole thing typed out but to avoid getting banned, I'm only going to say this:

You should not be one to talk about others degrading people. Pot meet kettle. You are actually downright mean, rude, and cruel with some of what you say when you think you are protected by cyberspace.

You, sir, have grown into a bitter lonely man who has absolutely no appreciation for women as a whole and what we contribute not only to this board, but to society. Some of what you and your fellow brethren say is absolutely disgusting. And it's funny to me...because you would never dare have big enough balls to act the same face-to-face. We have crossed paths on many, many occasions over the years, and not one time did you ever talk out of line or disrespectful to my face. But you sure talk a lot of mess behind my/other ladies backs. You are nothing more than a hypocrite talking shit via keyboard in an attempt to get "atta boys" to make you feel like a big man.

I'm really not trying to be rude-I'm truly not. But I am very direct and speak my mind. I don't care if you feel you have a right to say what you want about any lady on this board just because you hold the benjamins and are the one doing the review. You only have respect for the things/people that will somehow benefit you. So while you are busy rubbing elbows over beer with some of your buddies talking about how some of us are fat old hags with worn out pussies, just remember this. If it weren't for the hobby, the only pussy you would get would be a blow up variety.

If I could say what I really wanted to say to you, no doubt I would be banned permanently-trust me-I'm holding back. So tell ya what-let's do lunch. I would love nothing more than to tell you how I truly feel face-to-face. What do you say? My treat.

Meg

Don't feed the trolls, ladies... Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Awwww.. damn, but it is so much fun feeding the trolls!

Hell, just show me the Hooters or Twin Peaks waitress that will fuck you for $80, then we can talk. Originally Posted by ExNYer

Show me someone able to pull off the Hooters or Twin Peaks outfit who will also be as passionate about our time together as I would be (yeah, that DOES means the whole GFE/BFE, DFK, DATY, BBBJ set of acronyms) and who will do it for $80, and I'd make the time to see her at least 2-3 times a week, every week.

Nice fantasy... except for the boyfriends of actual Hooters and Twin Peaks waitresses.

Really? Hot 19yo to 25yo girls with firm bodies that love the sex, but they only charge $80 to $100?

And they hide that fact from all the rest of us, but they let you in on the good deal because you're ... what? Special?

I've seen this recycled line of bullshit on this and other boards too many times to count.

It gets re-posted from time to time by the more desperate and/or unscrupulous hobbyists to (I guess) panic some of the more gullible providers into thinking they have to slash prices to get more business.

If providers really fell for this scam, it would be great for hobbyists. But the providers would just end up making less money while seeing only slightly more clients.

Some percentage of the male population is not interested in hobbying at all, primarily because they are already getting it for free from wives and girlfriends. They won't be swayed by price, because they just aren't interested, period.

Among the percentage of men that are hobbyists, the major limiting factor for all sessions is not price, but the ability of hobbyists to get away from work and/or the family to see a provider. And in this economy, hobbyists are working harder than ever to avoid getting laid off, to supplement their reduced salaries, etc. In other words, employed hobbyists have even less time to play around than before.

If providers cut their prices in half, that does not mean that hobbyists would suddenly have twice as much free time to sneak out and see the providers, does it?

And unemployed hobbyists don't have any money to spend on the hobby, period.

Hobby money is discretionary spending money, just like spending on basketball tickets, movies, beer. And when times are hard, discretionary spending is the first thing that gets trimmed, both for the employed, the under-employed and the unemployed.

So, in your fantasy scenario, a hot-but-gullible provider cuts her rate from $300 to $100. The likely result is that each regular hobbyist that sees her once a month (i.e., $300/month) may now see her maybe 3 times in a 2 month period (i.e., $150/month) and she gets maybe one new, once-a-month bargain hunter for each regular (i.e., another $100/month). That means she is now doing 2 and a half sessions per month for $250 in place of one session for $300. That's great for the hobbyist. How does that help the provider?

I don't doubt for a second there are $80 hookers out there. But they aren't hot by any reasonable definition of that term. For $80, you get a horrid-looking meth addict that will rob you if you turn your back.

Show me the $80 escort that looks like she could be on the cover of Maxim, then we can talk.

Hell, just show me the Hooters or Twin Peaks waitress that will fuck you for $80, then we can talk.

If the ladies cut their rates to $100 per session, they will find themselves working harder for less total money. And when they complain about it, I guarantee another hobbyist will jump in and say "Well, if you just cut your rate to $40 an hour...." Originally Posted by ExNYer

+ 1,000,000 what he said. Pussy ain't cheap and if it is, don't want to know what those cut rate ladies look like. I'll stick to my ATF's that are $200+ but, are available at last minute, have clean incalls, are clean themselves, and don't do the MC'd and serve one million guys s day.
The nice thing about this is, WALDT, go ahead and see your $80 smelly pussy, leave the nice clean one for us.
Guess this thread shows WHO REALLY IS TRYING TO GET FREE PUSSY!
I love this type of threads, they allow the ladies to see hobbyists true colors. ROTFLMAOL. Thank you very much.

Exercise goes a LONG way to making age irrelevant when it comes to who one would find to be hot as a sex partner. Originally Posted by Having Fun

Exercise would go a LONGER way if half the ladies who sit posting on ECCIE and whining in the Powder Puff forums would get away from the computer and get on an exercise bike and put away the cheetohs....

+ 1,000,000 what he said. Pussy ain't cheap and if it is, don't want to know what those cut rate ladies look like. I'll stick to my ATF's that are $200+ but, are available at last minute, have clean incalls, are clean themselves, and don't do the MC'd and serve one million guys s day.
The nice thing about this is, WALDT, go ahead and see your $80 smelly pussy, leave the nice clean one for us.
Guess this thread shows WHO REALLY IS TRYING TO GET FREE PUSSY!
I love this type of threads, they allow the ladies to see hobbyists true colors. ROTFLMAOL. Thank you very much. Originally Posted by Donnie Brasco

Come on, pretend all you want but let's keep it real.

Post menopausal and posting is not a sexy way to spend one's afternoon in the pay for play world.

This has deteriorated into a mud slinging cat fight...please take it back to a civil tone or we can save a lotta folks a lotta points and shut it down. Keep it clever but keep it civil. By the way hi ya TRJR long time bud!

Gay for pay? Originally Posted by Shayla

He tried that, but he couldn't even get $8/hour, let alone $80.

I have been with 300.00 hookers and 80.00 hookers and the service has always been the same Originally Posted by PrinceofAsia

Wow. You must be one lousy lay.

I mean, seriously, you could spend an hour in an upscale apartment with someone that looks like Alyssa Nicole and the experience would never be any better than fucking some $80 Harry Hines skank in a cheap, filthy motel? That's just sad.

Also, you clearly never spent an hour and $300 with Ashley Ash back in the day. Or you would NEVER have made that statement.

Gay for pay? Originally Posted by Shayla

Jeezus, Shayla, I just checked out your photos.

If I lived in Vancouver, I'd go broke in a hurry.

If you ever visit Dallas, give me a few days notice so I can get a big line of credit.

Are these hot 19 y/o you speak of offering an hour of GFE service for $80???

Because I had a similar debate with a very similar thread in the austin co-ed where the guy was bragging about never paying over $100 for a session - and his sessions were 15-20 minutes. So in reality, that's $300/hr. He thought he was so smart and enlightening the rest of the hobbyists. It was laughable. I hate these type of threads honestly, and they will always appear in co-ed from time to time, and the ladies will have their say, and the men will have theirs, but at the end of the day we are not lowering our rates. We may run specials, we may grandfather you at a certain rate, but it is highly unlikely that any of us will really lower our rates by more than half. If our rates are 200, 300 or even 500 an hour, it is obviously working for us.

xoxo

Originally Posted by Jamieyoung

You know... if I totally get my way in a visit with a lady, it is going to go probably about a whole hour, maybe longer, and probably half of that time is going to be spent doing DFK and DATY, and kissing her body everywhere else too. She is going to have at least one real (not pretend) bell, and if she can handle it, two or three, because I don't stop on DATY until I think she really can't handle more. They usually beg me to stop. THEN, we do FS. The BJ (hopefully BBBJ) will happen somewhere in there before the FS (sometimes right before, and sometimes real early in the visit, depending on how things flow). The point is that I am paying her to spend a large part of our time together making her body feel pretty damn good, and yet, I'm not complaining about that. Yet, if life were fair, she'd really be telling me, "You did just as much for me as I did for you so you don't owe me anything. Please come back soon." I know a couple of ladies who do a very nice CBJ/CFS session for when a fellow just wants to get off, and those times are not about her, so she is getting paid appropriately. However, 9 times out of 10, what I really want is some real passion and connection, and I ain't a difficult guy to look at, ain't difficult to talk when spending time with, and I put much effort into making her feel good too. I cause no trouble or drama, and am polite, considerate, clean and hygienic. To be perfectly blunt, reasonable ladies... attractive, reasonable ladies... ought to be happy to take $80 or $100 to spend an hour with someone like me.

Funny, I must have missed that thread. No sense trying to stir the pot and make guys "think" this is actually important enough to talk about behind your backs. Now if you really want to share in PR conversations, please, by all means, tell us which brand and size tampon you prefer. What about when you have PMS? Do you prefer Midol or just a heating pad? Which brand douche makes you smell the freshest? There, now you can be a part of the ladies world. Do you feel better?



So in essence what you are saying then, is that even at the cheaper price, you still didn't quite get the ride you wanted, so you had to make substitutions using parts of the more expensive model to bring it up to your standards and comfort level? Hmm, talk about irony.

I had a whole thing typed out but to avoid getting banned, I'm only going to say this:

You should not be one to talk about others degrading people. Pot meet kettle. You are actually downright mean, rude, and cruel with some of what you say when you think you are protected by cyberspace.

You, sir, have grown into a bitter lonely man who has absolutely no appreciation for women as a whole and what we contribute not only to this board, but to society. Some of what you and your fellow brethren say is absolutely disgusting. And it's funny to me...because you would never dare have big enough balls to act the same face-to-face. We have crossed paths on many, many occasions over the years, and not one time did you ever talk out of line or disrespectful to my face. But you sure talk a lot of mess behind my/other ladies backs. You are nothing more than a hypocrite talking shit via keyboard in an attempt to get "atta boys" to make you feel like a big man.

I'm really not trying to be rude-I'm truly not. But I am very direct and speak my mind. I don't care if you feel you have a right to say what you want about any lady on this board just because you hold the benjamins and are the one doing the review. You only have respect for the things/people that will somehow benefit you. So while you are busy rubbing elbows over beer with some of your buddies talking about how some of us are fat old hags with worn out pussies, just remember this. If it weren't for the hobby, the only pussy you would get would be a blow up variety.

If I could say what I really wanted to say to you, no doubt I would be banned permanently-trust me-I'm holding back. So tell ya what-let's do lunch. I would love nothing more than to tell you how I truly feel face-to-face. What do you say? My treat.

Meg Originally Posted by hotlips_houlihan

count me in for the lunch!!

Also, you clearly never spent an hour and $300 with Ashley Ash back in the day. Or you would NEVER have made that statement. Originally Posted by ExNYer

Ashley was a blast but first I saw her when she was only $200 per hour and before she was ever on ASPD. Think about the shit storm that would have happened if THE one and only true Energizer Bunny were to pop up today and show the current $200-$300/hr providers what GFE truly means.

That woman set a standard that many today still fall way short of.

God I miss that woman.