So It Begins With Russia.......

... its the prosecutions burden to prove guilt.
Originally Posted by CJ7

You made the accusations. It's your burden of proof.

Remember .. that's why WTF lost the bet.

You made the accusations. It's your burden of proof.

Remember .. that's why WTF lost the bet. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Liar.

You made the accusations. It's your burden of proof.

Remember .. that's why WTF lost the bet. Originally Posted by LexusLover

no Perry, I gave the prosecution a timeline, the prosecution bears the burden of proving its incorrect ... cant do that can you ?

we knew dat ..

Perhaps you can blame Bill Clinton. When the election was over and Bush had won, Clinton refused to allow his staff to occupy the transition offices until we went through that kubuki dance. 42 days lost on account of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. That is a sizeable part of Bush's term to that point. We also know that Clinton ordered George Tennant to have Sudan send Bin Laden to Afghanistan. Bill Clinton is the godfather of 9/11.

Bill Clinton is the godfather of 9/11. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Blame it on Clinton?

Wasn't it you who also said that GW should not be blamed for the financial mess left in the wake of September 15, 2008?

So the moral of the story is: It is ok to blame Clinton for the bad things that happened on Bush's watch but you can't blame Bush for September 15, 2008. It's all Obama's fault!

I have a great idea, you can blame WJC and Obama for 9/11? That way you can get two for the price of one.

Perhaps you can blame Bill Clinton. When the election was over and Bush had won, Clinton refused to allow his staff to occupy the transition offices until we went through that kubuki dance. 42 days lost on account of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. That is a sizeable part of Bush's term to that point. We also know that Clinton ordered George Tennant to have Sudan send Bin Laden to Afghanistan. Bill Clinton is the godfather of 9/11. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Are you crazy?!? Provided what you're saying is true, 42 days out of eight is nothing. And, I've never heard your other story either. If it's true, I'd like to know the whole story not just the final outcome. The lead up to 9/11 was over a century in the making.

yeah, JD is crazy.

Liar. Originally Posted by WTF

Oh? You won the bet on your Zimmerman trial prediction?

Rewriting history is CJ's specialty. Now you are joining his gang?

Are you crazy?!? Provided what you're saying is true, 42 days out of eight is nothing. And, I've never heard your other story either. If it's true, I'd like to know the whole story not just the final outcome. The lead up to 9/11 was over a century in the making. Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

"The story" was (and is) that because of the challenges to the election results the transition teams did not meet ... Clinton's staff was "holding out" based on their "prediction" that Gore would prevail with his litigation.

I am aware of only one other time that there was such a "behind the scenes" scenario, and that was in the Eisenhower to JFK transition. In fact JFK did not know the U.S. had troops on the ground in SE Asia (build up during Eisenhower's last year or so) until after the inauguration ceremony ... it was the next day. It started off some bad blood between the JFK staff and the intelligence community, which continued throughout his brief administration.

Some of the lack of communication from the Clinton staff came to light during the 911 commission hearings .. various "excuses" were given. Cheney mentioned it in an interview over the Christmas holidays (he also mentioned the failing economy as their first order of business).

Blame it on Clinton? Originally Posted by bigtex

It's not a matter of "blaming" it on Clinton ... (heaven forbid) ... it's when people try to rewrite history (their own and U.S. history) that it becomes relevant....especially when some knucklehead claims Bush "knew" about the 911 attack plans before their implementation.

That is the implication from some of the posts ... "he should have prevented it."

The 911 commission found (post event) fault from a perspective of "looking back" by working backwards connecting the dots. Clinton administration was discussed. And from the clear words of your man, the current Sec of State ...

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/lkl.00.html

Larry King Live: 09/11/2001 Interview on CNN:

KING: Senator Kerry did your -- did you committee on international opertions and terrorism ever actually fear something like this?

SEN. JOHN KERRY (R), MASSACHUSETTS: Absolutely. Absolutely. But let me join John and I know all my colleagues in just expressing -- I think all of us here in Washington are feeling in very personal ways the loss of what's happened here. I know that I had one friend I know of already on that plane from Boston, and I dread the learning of perhaps others. But for thousands of families tonight, there is just a huge loss, and I think in every American there's a sense -- there's a fury, an intense, burning fury about this and a determination to do what is right about it.

We have always known this could happen. We've warned about it. We've talked about it. I regret to say, as -- I served on the Intelligence Committee up until last year. I can remember after the bombings of the embassies, after TWA 800, we went through this flurry of activity, talking about it, but not really doing hard work of responding."

Sounds fairly clear to me!

no Perry, I gave the prosecution a timeline, the prosecution bears the burden of proving its incorrect ... cant do that can you ?

we knew dat .. Originally Posted by CJ7

Who was I "prosecuting" .. BTW: Do you really enjoy sucking cocks, or is that just a hobby?

Oh? You won the bet on your Zimmerman trial prediction?

Rewriting history is CJ's specialty. Now you are joining his gang? Originally Posted by LexusLover

I called you a liar because you lied about why I lost the bet.

I lost the bet because I bet on the wrong outcome.

You are just speculating on how the outcome came about. Therefore, liar.

Who was I "prosecuting" .. BTW: Do you really enjoy sucking cocks, or is that just a hobby? Originally Posted by LexusLover

wow, that's almost a kindergarten insult ... keep trying, you're closing in on 6 year olds.


what I really enjoy is unwinding all of your spin, and proving what an idiot you really are ....

I lost the bet because I bet on the wrong outcome. Originally Posted by WTF

And you bet in the first place, because you a dumbshit, and you lost the bet ..

... because you are a dumbshit. You "bet on the wrong outcome," because you're a dumbshit.

Is "dub-shit-ass-wipe" hyphenated?

Or is it just "dumb-shit ass-wipe" with no hyphen between the "t" and the "a"?

wow, that's almost a kindergarten insult ... keep trying, you're closing in on 6 year olds.


what I really enjoy is unwinding all of your spin, and proving what an idiot you really are .... Originally Posted by CJ7

Oh, it wasn't meant as an insult. It was a serious question. The insults are your style.

So please don't judge me by your standards. I know who I am.

I really don't need a joke like you to confirm anything about me or who I am. Unlike you, my "identity" is not "board-based" or "poster-based." That's why your hot air does nothing.