USS GABRIELLE GIFFORDS ??????? WTF !!!!!!!

Ding, ding, ding...round 10 about to begin...
This is good! But, who is going for the TKO lmfao! Love this bloody forum! Originally Posted by Don't Be Daft!

Thanks, JL!

nyRINOer, your argument that cows slaughtered tortoises is ridiculous... Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Actually, that's what is alleged, hillbilly. That cattle step on the tortoise or on their eggs. It isn't my argument.

Pay attention, Cock Whisperer:Cock worship, etc, is more your forte, you Yankee dude doodling dandy.

How does it "prove" they are coexisting if you don't know how many tortoises there were "hundreds of years ago"? The desert tortoise was there hundreds of years ago, and the desert tortoise is still there, you simple-minded Yankee twit. Quite unlike your dumb-fuck Yankee ass that was forced into exile.

According to the BLM, the tortoise is rare and needs protection, including protection from being trampled by cattle or having their burrows caved in by a cow. That is exactly what the BLM "claims" as it allows Reid's moneyed and politically connected friends to proceed with the commercial development of desert tortoise habitat.

YOU say that isn't true because they have "coexisted" for hundreds of years. You're lying again, you exiled Yankee fucktard.

But if cattle wiped out, say 90% of the tortoises, that isn't "coexistence". The desert toroise coexisted with the American Bison, Spanish cattle, horses, and other large herbivores for hundreds of years, and that's a fact, you ignorant Yankee putz. Meanwhile, in the last 25 years, the BLM has wiped out 94% of the ranchers and their herds in that area, you perpetual Yankee moron.

So, tranny fuckee, where is your evidence that cattle have not adversely affected the tortoise population? There are still desert tortoise on the land that's been used for grazing cattle and other pre-European herbivores, and the desert tortoise has coexisted with them for hundreds of years, you splooge sucking Yankee queen.

Do you have something - anything - better than a quote from "Mrs. Kena Lytle Gloeckner" - a biased, self-interested rancher - to support that? There's Bundy, Gloeckner, the Governor of Utah, and the other politicians already cited, and, btw, personal experiences, you menopausal Yankee twit.

Keep making shit up and calling it "Fact". There was nothing "made-up", and the facts have knocked your ignorant Yankee ass to the mat. Care to revisit your original claim that the desert tortoise played no role in this issue, you ignorantly wrong Yankee moron? Care to revisit your claim that your argument didn't mutate, you disingenuous Yankee ignoramus? Care to revisit another half dozen or so ignorant claims you've made that were factually refuted, you oblivious Yankee retard?
Originally Posted by ExNYer

NOW WHO CAN ARGUE WITH THAT? Everybody, please read this remarkable post out loud and try to keep a straight face.

LMAO @ JL's SOILED BREECHCLOUT Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Not you, you're too stupid to argue with a dead pissant, you lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.

How do you know, IBIdiot? Argue with many dead pissants?

Your eloquence shines through yet again!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Loser!

This forum truly IS great proof for evolution.

From naming ships to cows stepping on tortoises. Who would have imagined?

And through it all the unswerving bellicosity, arrogance, and stupidity of IB shines through. Really? Because a species exists they are not endangered? With that absurd comment Noah could have saved lots of room by only taking one of each species. Or is it because YOU have great personal experience with tortoises that we should bow to your opinions? The best "expert witnesses" you can tout are a couple self serving ranchers? What would you really expect from the thieving Bundy? If he is willing to put women and kids up as a shield for his cowardly ass then of course he'll sacrifice some tortoises for a couple stolen dollars in his pocket. Bundy has even less credibility than you do (except on here where very sadly we know you better).

Pay attention, Cock Whisperer:Cock worship, etc, is more your forte, you Yankee dude doodling dandy.

How does it "prove" they are coexisting if you don't know how many tortoises there were "hundreds of years ago"? The desert tortoise was there hundreds of years ago, and the desert tortoise is still there, you simple-minded Yankee twit. Quite unlike your dumb-fuck Yankee ass that was forced into exile.

So, in other words, you CAN"T prove it. Population reduction does not constitute "coexistence". Pointing out that some tortoises are still alive doesn't mean that they are not slowly going extinct.

Under your stupid standard, gray wolves, bison, and bald eagles don't need protection because some of them are still alive in North America, which means they have coexisted with people and their herds for 500 years. Such idiocy ignores that the populations of those animals went from millions to thousands or even just hundreds.

So, provide some evidence that tortoise populations have not gone down in the area where Bundy grazes - OR SHUT UP. And by evidence, I don't mean the say-so of Kena Lytle Gloeckner.

According to the BLM, the tortoise is rare and needs protection, including protection from being trampled by cattle or having their burrows caved in by a cow. That is exactly what the BLM "claims" as it allows Reid's moneyed and politically connected friends to proceed with the commercial development of desert tortoise habitat.

FAIL, cock whisperer. Reid's project never got off the ground and Reid's friends weren't going to graze cattle. They were going to build a solar farm. A solar panel doesn't move, so it can't step on a tortoise or its nest. So, maybe the BLM determined that solar panels weren't a threat? Can your provide evidence to the contrary, tranny fuckee?

YOU say that isn't true because they have "coexisted" for hundreds of years. You're lying again, you exiled Yankee fucktard.

But if cattle wiped out, say 90% of the tortoises, that isn't "coexistence". The desert toroise coexisted with the American Bison, Spanish cattle, horses, and other large herbivores for hundreds of years, and that's a fact, you ignorant Yankee putz.

Read above, again, stupid Confederate inbreed. Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Under your stupid standard, gray wolves, bison, and bald eagles don't need protection because some of them are still alive in North America, which means they have coexisted with people and their herds for 500 years. Such idiocy ignores that the populations of those animals went from millions to thousands or even just hundreds.

The BLM doesn't have to wait until there is only one tortoise left before taking action.

So, provide some evidence that tortoise populations have not gone down in the area where Bundy grazes - OR SHUT UP. And by evidence, I don't mean the say-so of Kena Lytle Gloeckner.

Meanwhile, in the last 25 years, the BLM has wiped out 94% of the ranchers and their herds in that area, you perpetual Yankee moron.

Strawman argument. Ranching is a business, not a species. So ranchers can go out of business. It is NOT the BLM's job to "manage" them. And herds are not endangered, since there are hundreds of millions of cattle the world over.

So, tranny fuckee, where is your evidence that cattle have not adversely affected the tortoise population? There are still desert tortoise on the land that's been used for grazing cattle and other pre-European herbivores, and the desert tortoise has coexisted with them for hundreds of years, you splooge sucking Yankee queen.

See above, cock whisperer.

Do you have something - anything - better than a quote from "Mrs. Kena Lytle Gloeckner" - a biased, self-interested rancher - to support that? There's Bundy, Gloeckner, the Governor of Utah, and the other politicians already cited, and, btw, personal experiences, you menopausal Yankee twit.

Do ANY of them know whether the tortoise population is declining or holding steady? Or are they just making shit up like you?

Keep making shit up and calling it "Fact". There was nothing "made-up", and the facts have knocked your ignorant Yankee ass to the mat. Care to revisit your original claim that the desert tortoise played no role in this issue, you ignorantly wrong Yankee moron?

No need to revisit it, since I am not changing the claim, tranny fuckee. The BLM has LOTS of reasons to restrict grazing IN A DESERT and has been doing so for years. Bundy is simply making up his own rules, because he is a deadbeat and a sociopath. It is OUR public land, but he is acting like he has some legal claim on it. He never has and never will.

If the BLM never mentioned the tortoise and just said they wanted to raise revenue and conserve water, THE SAME THING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Bundy wasn't going to pay fees or restrict his herd no matter what. He is just like those Republic of Texas types that make up crazy theories about the law to suit their agenda, to fit their own circumstances, and to avoid the consequences of their actions. Kind of like you, every time you post.

Care to revisit your claim that your argument didn't mutate, you disingenuous Yankee ignoramus? Care to revisit another half dozen or so ignorant claims you've made that were factually refuted, you oblivious Yankee retard?

See above, cock whisperer.
Originally Posted by I B Hankering

All those trannies fucked your ass so hard, you have brain damage. Too bad. They ruined a perfectly good monkey.

How do you know, IBIdiot? Argue with many dead pissants? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

He just KNOWS. No need to back up anything he says with evidence. He just declares it to be so.

He declares that the desert tortoise is not endangered. I ask him for ANY kind of evidence about whether or not the desert tortoise population is going up, going down, or holding steady.

But he can't find anything on Wikipedia and he is too stupid and lazy to look elsewhere, so he just repeats the claim.

Behold! The Cock Whisperer speaketh!

Excellent retorts!!! Quite entertaining - thank you!!
oblivious Yankee retard
ignorantly wrong Yankee moron
menopausal Yankee twit
splooge sucking Yankee queen
Yankee dude doodling dandy

JL is IBIdiot's soiled breechclout.

Two peas in a bed.

Excellent retorts!!! Quite entertaining - thank you!!
oblivious Yankee retard
ignorantly wrong Yankee moron
menopausal Yankee twit
splooge sucking Yankee queen
Yankee dude doodling dandy Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

It appears you are the prime suck-up for the Cock Whisperer.

It appears you are the prime suck-up for the Cock Whisperer. Originally Posted by ExNYer

He is now. Desperately groveling at the feces-covered foot of IBIdiot trying to elbow Slobbrin out of the way.

He's made his choice. Kinda saves any of us having to lump him and shitbreath together ... unless they're really one in the same.

That theory has never been disproven, btw.

who better than to serve IB ?

snick

How do you know, IBIdiot? Argue with many dead pissants?

Your eloquence shines through yet again!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Loser! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

One only needs to see what you post in this forum to know you'd lose an argument with a dead pissant, you lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.

This forum truly IS great proof for evolution.

From naming ships to cows stepping on tortoises. Who would have imagined?
Originally Posted by Old-T

This forum, Old-Twerp, provides great entertainment from watching Kool Aid sotted lib-retards like you ignorantly stomp all over their puny dicks.

So, in other words, you CAN"T prove it. Population reduction does not constitute "coexistence". Pointing out that some tortoises are still alive doesn't mean that they are not slowly going extinct. Haven't seen where your ignorant Yankee ass has refuted the BLM's own claim that building a commercial solar facility will kill desert tortoises; yet, the BLM was willing to arbitrarily suspend its rules and regulations in order to follow Reid's beck and call.


Under your stupid standard, gray wolves, bison, and bald eagles don't need protection because some of them are still alive in North America, which means they have coexisted with people and their herds for 500 years. Such idiocy ignores that the populations of those animals went from millions to thousands or even just hundreds. No, you Yankee dick-sucker, you and the BLM want to make the desert tortoise an issue to force cattle off ranges where the desert tortoise and cattle have coexisted for hundreds of years, while conversely ignoring that same desert tortoise to move forward with Reid's moneyed and politically connected friends' commercial development of those same habitats.


So, provide some evidence that tortoise populations have not gone down in the area where Bundy grazes - OR SHUT UP. And by evidence, I don't mean the say-so of Kena Lytle Gloeckner. See, you Yankee dude doodling dandy, despite your earlier ignorant claim that the tortoise played no role in this issue your argument has mutated entirely to making the desert tortoise central to your ignorant argument.


FAIL, cock whisperer. Reid's project never got off the ground and Reid's friends weren't going to graze cattle. They were going to build a solar farm. A solar panel doesn't move, so it can't step on a tortoise or its nest. So, maybe the BLM determined that solar panels weren't a threat? Can your provide evidence to the contrary, tranny fuckee? It went as far as it needed to to show the arbitrariness in BLM's enforcement of protection standards, you brainless Yankee creep.


Read above, again, stupid Confederate inbreed. Your ignorant POV doesn't change the fact that the desert tortoise coexisted with the American Bison, Spanish cattle, horses, and other large herbivores for hundreds of years, you ignorant Yankee putz.


See above cock whisperer. That's right, you dick-suckling Yankee fuck, your handle IS at the top of your post.


Do ANY of them know whether the tortoise population is declining or holding steady? Or are they just making shit up like you? Your ignorant question shows that it's your ignorant ass that's out to pasture on the issues, you ignorant Yankee fucktard.


See above cock whisperer. Checked again, you dick-suckling Yankee fuck, your handle is still at the top of your post.


All those trannies fucked your ass so hard, you have brain damage. Too bad. They ruined a perfectly good monkey. That sounds like your dumb-fuck Yankee ass has experience delving into bestiality, you deviant Yankee fuck.


Originally Posted by ExNYer

He just KNOWS. No need to back up anything he says with evidence. He just declares it to be so. A quick review of your posts on this subject shows that it is you who has not backed up your POV with substantive facts, and that's why your ignorant POV has mutated to accommodate the facts that have been shoved up your ignorant Yankee ass, you lying Yankee moron.

He declares that the desert tortoise is not endangered. I ask him for ANY kind of evidence about whether or not the desert tortoise population is going up, going down, or holding steady. Another lie from the dumb Yankee retard. The BLM claims the desert tortoise is endangered, but allows politically connected and moneyed interests to commercially develop that land while arbitrarily forcing cattle off land where cattle and the desert tortoise have coexisted for hundreds of years, you lying Yankee scum.

But he can't find anything on Wikipedia and he is too stupid and lazy to look elsewhere, so he just repeats the claim. You're the one citing wiki these days, you dumb-fuck Yankee jackass, there are plenty of other news agencies and sites that were already cited.

Behold! The Cock Whisperer speaketh! You really shouldn't brag about your deviant behavior, you Yankee dude doodling dandy. Originally Posted by ExNYer

JL is IBIdiot's soiled breechclout.

Two peas in a bed. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

You're the stain on the breechclout, you lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.

It appears you are the prime suck-up for the Cock Whisperer. Originally Posted by ExNYer

Are you trying to entice the lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM, to be your bottom boy, you cock whispering Yankee fuck ... better watch out, you'll end up with a stained breechclout.

He is now. Desperately groveling at the feces-covered foot of IBIdiot trying to elbow Slobbrin out of the way.

He's made his choice. Kinda saves any of us having to lump him and shitbreath together ... unless they're really one in the same.

That theory has never been disproven, btw. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Yeah, you lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM, let everyone see the hypocrisy in your posts: "In other words, you're not willing to make a comment on the topic of this thread, or engage in honest discussion on the subject."

who better than to serve IB ?

snick Originally Posted by CJ7

He is now. Desperately groveling at the feces-covered foot of IBIdiot trying to elbow Slobbrin out of the way.

He's made his choice. Kinda saves any of us having to lump him and shitbreath together ... unless they're really one in the same.

That theory has never been disproven, btw. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

The burden of proof is on the asshole making the assertion, dipshit.
Prove I'm Han, Daft, Marshall, IB whoever else the fuck you think I am, you little pussy.

It appears you are the prime suck-up for the Cock Whisperer. Originally Posted by ExNYer

He is coming up with some good insults for you, BNT.
Better, in fact, than the lame ones you throw his way.
However, I don't mean to be kicking the fence of the Irish Bulldog, so I'll leave it alone if you will.