Who knows... not I.
Wishing you all the best in your future endeavors, Miss Sofia.
Always,
Gina
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Not to WP (white princess) for Sofia, but I do remember her alert of Alex being roughed up and robbed by a gent in Houston Alert on ASPD, right before it went down. At the time Sofia could not post in PIE, so she did so in Houston Alert.AST I don't know you but thank you so much for clarifying this, I feel the same and I acutally told her a few time to be nice but I guess some people just like to fall in the ditch themselves to gain the experience.
Sofia,, maybe if you were not so shitty to some of us, there would be more compassion for you, but unfortunately you tend to burn bridges and your attitude sucks.. I wish you luck Originally Posted by AlexisSoftTouch
Sofia, this is a hell of a sendoff. Normally, I ignore your posts but got curious with how a farewell post from you turned 8 pages long. And, wow! This had everything - drama, WKs, a few heartfelt good-byes (where the good lord split ya?), he said - she said, damsels in distress, fighting for someone's honor and even murders. Only thing missing so far is a happy ending.She it not going anywhere, we will change her handle to Goofia of houston or she can start a new thread and say " hey I am sorry and I will be nice."
But I do have a soft spot for whack-a-doodles swinging at windmills. So, best of luck, wherever you are heading off to. That is if you are truly leaving. I think among all the postings, there was some nugget of good advice regarding how you may have hurt your girls more than helped them. Hope you take it to heart. Take care. Originally Posted by cabletex7
AST I don't know you but thank you so much for clarifying this, I feel the same and I acutally told her a few time to be nice but I guess some people just like to fall in the ditch themselves to gain the experience.We or She? Although She is prolly We..
She it not going anywhere, we will change her handle to Goofia of houston or she can start a new thread and say " hey I am sorry and I will be nice." Originally Posted by auknowho
I've gone through absolutely everything I have from Sofia, and I haven't found anything to do with Alex being harmed by a P411 member. Looking on ProviderBuzz, I don't see her reporting anything there either.Gina,
Who knows... not I.
Wishing you all the best in your future endeavors, Miss Sofia.
Always,
GinaOriginally Posted by GinaXXX
It's unfortunate, but people who act like lunatics don't have very much credibility with me. So if someone who is as unbalanced as Miss Sofia is comes to me and says "XYZ happened", I definitely don't believe it unless there is other information to back the accusations up.I have no connections to "The feds" if only tying to avoid them. Again, there you go trying to "ruin me" with insinuations. I am sure your connection to them is close as they have investigated 3 P411 murders. "Over the years" adds up and I'm sure we are going to one day read about the P411 killers like the Craigslist Killer...Your too big to keep the providers safe but I suspect you keep collecting that fee and don't care.
I can't find any notes on the exact bad client situation she is talking about, but please understand that I have pages and pages of notes to go through because she was submitted alerts at least twice weekly. Submitting alerts on guys who were not P411, alerts on guys she had mixed up with someone else, alerts on guys who had done nothing wrong (except in her own mind), alerts on providers, alerts on other agency owners, alerts on review sites, I could go on and on.
If there was a serious alert in there that I didn't pay attention to that I really should have, I would feel terrible. In fact, I'll probably have trouble sleeping tonight over this and will be combing the notes to see if I really did miss something. I suspect it's just more bs from her, but I assure everyone I will be spending some time making sure of that.
In regards to the conversation we had about the girl who was murdered, there have actually been 3 providers who were listed on P411 murdered over the years. In 1 of the situations (over a year ago now), homicide detectives in California did contact me asking for information on her P411 clients (which she had none).
However, I will not give out any information contained on P411 unless subpeonaed, and told them so. Even though we only have Client Ids and email addresses, that information is private no matter what. If you don't like that this is my position, that's fine. Your claims of close connection to "the feds" is exactly why I have removed your organization from P411.
I'm sorry that I feel I have to address your comments, embarrassed actually. This sort of thing (public wars) disgusts me.
Sincerely,
Gina Originally Posted by GinaXXX
Gina,Why would I mention P411, they did not rob her. Those sites are for alerting on the men. Not if you found them on eros, eccie, aspd.....or they came from P411........No one cares where they came from just that an alert be posted......
Sofia did post an alert for Alex on ASPD Houston Alert. I remember her saying that Alex was robbed and roughed up by a gent, but there was no mention of P411. Who knows at this point. why SOH, never posted the alert anywhere else other than ASPD. Originally Posted by AlexisSoftTouch
Sofia I have told you this like 5 times, don't compare banners and BCD's, what is wrong is wrong, if Alex was harassed we all need to know about it and who is this Fu*ker!!!Look for Steve. It's in the ladies only forum. Gent's can't see that. It's there. Big and bold
Well i did not see any alerts here, HD or ASPD but maybe removed from all over God knows, you think you can put an alert out here on ECCIE for all the people here can be safe?
And check your PM! Originally Posted by auknowho
I've gone through absolutely everything I have from Sofia, and I haven't found anything to do with Alex being harmed by a P411 member. Looking on ProviderBuzz, I don't see her reporting anything there either.
Who knows... not I.
Wishing you all the best in your future endeavors, Miss Sofia.
Always,
GinaOriginally Posted by GinaXXX
It's unfortunate, but people who act like lunatics don't have very much credibility with me. So if someone who is as unbalanced as Miss Sofia is comes to me and says "XYZ happened", I definitely don't believe it unless there is other information to back the accusations up.Okay i was going to try to stay out of this thread from here on out. But having been there and having my own issues w a client on p411, i feel obligated to say, EVEN without contacting Gina, she emailed me asking for details, asking if i thought the account warranted suspension, etc etc. So i can attest that she does care what happens, is very professional, and im just having some issues not giving my side of what i experienced with her. There has to be more to this, bc that is not the way she came off at all. Just by word of mouth she contacted me immediately and addressed the situation, in a very professional, prompt, compassionate, manner.
I can't find any notes on the exact bad client situation she is talking about, but please understand that I have pages and pages of notes to go through because she was submitted alerts at least twice weekly. Submitting alerts on guys who were not P411, alerts on guys she had mixed up with someone else, alerts on guys who had done nothing wrong (except in her own mind), alerts on providers, alerts on other agency owners, alerts on review sites, I could go on and on.
If there was a serious alert in there that I didn't pay attention to that I really should have, I would feel terrible. In fact, I'll probably have trouble sleeping tonight over this and will be combing the notes to see if I really did miss something. I suspect it's just more bs from her, but I assure everyone I will be spending some time making sure of that.
In regards to the conversation we had about the girl who was murdered, there have actually been 3 providers who were listed on P411 murdered over the years. In 1 of the situations (over a year ago now), homicide detectives in California did contact me asking for information on her P411 clients (which she had none anyway). However, I will not give out any information from P411 unless subpeonaed, and told them so. Even though we only have Client Ids and email addresses, that information is private no matter what. If you don't like my position on this, that's fine. Your claims of close connection to "the feds" is exactly why I have removed your organization from P411.
I'm sorry that I feel I have to address your comments, embarrassed actually. This sort of thing (public wars) disgusts me.
Sincerely,
Gina Originally Posted by GinaXXX
It is on HD and you know it....and other places. Why would I mention P411, they did not rob her. Those sites are for alerting on the men. Not if you found them on eros, or they came from P411........No one cares where they came from just that an alert be posted...... Originally Posted by sofiaofhoustonWhat I meant about P411, was there was no mention on your ASPD alert that the gent verified from P411. To confirm, the only alert I saw on Alex was on the P. I don't go to Horndogs as much as I use to go on the P,, so I cannot say that I saw your alert on HD. I will take a look though..
Oh brother....
It's so sad, but two of the providers I speak of, I found out about when clients forwarded me the news reports. From what I read in the news, neither case had anything to do with the hobby or P411. One was a domestic incident and the other was arson. I was never contacted by anyone in either situation
In the third case, they did think it could have been a client. The detectives told me they were contacting the owners of nearly 100 sites, since she was posting on so many sites. They did not subpeona any records, they did not "poke through" anything. They simply called the number on the P411 site and asked me if I had any information that would help their investigation. I said no, and that was basically it. P411 is not well known in that area, and she'd never even logged in once her account had been approved.
I do not allow notes on P411, simply because there are a handful of people like you spend their lives trying to stir up trouble for people. I will not allow my site to become a place for nuts to destroy one another, hence the decision to keep all notes internal. Shivani on ProviderBuzz doesn't mind the drama, she's far enough removed from the business, and that's why I link directly to her site so the girls can access that info. I just don't want any part of it personally.
P411 is not intended to be the only form of screening the ladies use. It is NOT a perfect system. We are simply one tool that can be used in the screening process. However, in my opinion it is an excellent system, and as long as providers use it in the manner it is intended, there is nothing else out there that can touch it.
Sincerely,
Gina
PS: I think we all know that if it really was a P411 client in the Alex alert, you would have been posting that info all over town. Originally Posted by GinaXXX