How has hobbying affected your RW social skills?

^^^^ TFF!!!.....sounds like the perfect RW date to me...

I still haven't figured out the RW dating thing yet. With the last guy that took me to dinner, at the end he pulled out his wallet. I automatically pulled my hair back in a ponytail and considerately asked if he was sure he wanted to do it there. He looked at me strangely. I was perfectly polite about it, so I'm still not sure what the problem was. Maybe I had something stuck in my teeth... Originally Posted by YummyMarie

It seems like a bonehead move on his part. Mmmmm, I would think pay up front privately for whatever you had in mind and get that out of the way. Men can be so stupid. I rather ask before I do something stupid.

I think the hobby has made me a better communicator because everyone that I see is different from the last or the first so I pick up a lot on the dynamics of efficient conversation and I really get a kick out of it because some providers can be awfully cool and quirky in an interesting way. I think a guy bullshits a lot to a woman in the real world because he wants to impress her which would lead to some kind of emotional or physical involvement if the moment is right and if the guy is savvy enough to interest the woman through humor and charm that let her proverbial guard now. I don't have to do that with a provider. I know what I am going to get more or less so the pressure to please is off of my back which of course relaxes me further into free-flowing, honest conversation.

LOL, but sometimes I think when I do converse with non-providing women in an unassuming manner they give me the impression that I want friendship only because I am not putting on the charm in full throttle mode. It's not really the case but because I have already got my fix from a provider, so I am not bent out of hell shape by trying to peacock my way into self-advertisement in search of a mate or play partner. I suppose it's damned if you do and damned if you don't kind of situation here. Originally Posted by FrenchToast

Never allow yourself to get trapped in the RW friendship zone unless its with benefits. ;-) If so you may always end up talking yourself into that no pussy zone. You'll be the guy they go out for drinks with and borrow money from.

Never allow yourself to get trapped in the RW friendship zone unless its with benefits. ;-) If so you may always end up talking yourself into that no pussy zone. You'll be the guy they go out for drinks with and borrow money from. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

Not bad advice for once Zani.....

Never allow yourself to get trapped in the RW friendship zone unless its with benefits. ;-) If so you may always end up talking yourself into that no pussy zone. You'll be the guy they go out for drinks with and borrow money from. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

I absolutely concur. I personally think if you are going to date a girl in RW then she has to meet you half-way. Therefore, she should pay for her end and I will pay for my end when it comes to having fun together in some public outing. It's not like women aren't working and can't afford to fend for themselves. Friendship with bennies are hard to come by nowadays with all the gold diggers amongst us especially in a hustle town like Houston. My last girl, a non-Texan southern girl, was a true friend with bennies. I never had to pay a dime for fun with her because we did it for mutual pleasures. Too bad she led me on and replaced me with another. .

^^^^ TFF!!!.....sounds like the perfect RW date to me... Originally Posted by Russ38

Whore to the core

My last girl, a non-Texan southern girl, was a true friend with bennies. I never had to pay a dime for fun with her because we did it for mutual pleasures. Too bad she led me on and replaced me with another. . Originally Posted by FrenchToast

Probably with one who didn't ask her to split the check.

A "friendzone" is only active when one party's desire for "more" is unmet.

a male and female who are generally friends have no "friend zone" situation going on.

That being said, being accustomed to "The Hobby" has made it nearly impossible for me to be in any woman's "friend zone" now that I have the hobby as an option.

Hassen't made me a more socially adept guy. I don't think my social skills were that good to begin with.

I am not George Cluny handsome. I am not a man of power or wealth. The quality of my wit and charm is disputed. The Hobby is the only way I can manage to enjoy the intimate company of attractive women half my age . . .ever. Originally Posted by ICU 812

Good shit.

Not bad I actually like the color coordination. I may hit up the mall this weekend. Good looking out OFS. Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

See,

This is the shit here.

This is why I don't like to fool with TRW. Keeping up with fashion. How long do I have to be in an uncomfortable tight suit, and these days, tight pants, for a desirable, single woman to be impressed by it, be close enough for me to talk to her in efforts to further things, etc.. ? No.

I once was working from home in black athletic pants and a black t-shirt. Browsed, text, and before you know it, a visiting provider who's as hot as the top 4 sexiest bitches you'd see walking in the mall was French kissing both my mouth and my dick.

and I never had to wear tight clothing to get to that point.

got my nut, finished my session and went right back to working from home - making money.

I was once able to resist the lures of a RW trap by a desperate woman throwing the pussy at me.

My providers held me down so really I know she was a little perplexed at how I wasn't the average ni**a who'd jump through a window for them drawls.

it's because I have very good options

Probably with one who didn't ask her to split the check. Originally Posted by Lauren Mayfair

Nope, she had many "guy friends" and was testing the waters. I wasn't a match or the One. She wasn't the wine and dine kind of a girl so splitting anything wasn't the case. I even offered her an opportunity to hang out in public or go on dates and she never obliged. She liked to show up to my place, talk, watch movies, cuddle, and make love. I think she needed attention and I gave her some whenever she needed it. Hence, my understanding that she had "led me on." Southern women are drama-prone like that. Come to think of it, I dropped her as a friend after I discovered her shenanigans. I moved on.

See,

This is the shit here.

This is why I don't like to fool with TRW. Keeping up with fashion. How long do I have to be in an uncomfortable tight suit, and these days, tight pants, for a desirable, single woman to be impressed by it, be close enough for me to talk to her in efforts to further things, etc.. ? No.

I once was working from home in black athletic pants and a black t-shirt. Browsed, text, and before you know it, a visiting provider who's as hot as the top 4 sexiest bitches you'd see walking in the mall was French kissing both my mouth and my dick.

and I never had to wear tight clothing to get to that point.

got my nut, finished my session and went right back to working from home - making money. Originally Posted by wreckshop

Nope, she had many "guy friends" and was testing the waters. I wasn't a match or the One. She wasn't the wine and dine kind of a girl so splitting anything wasn't the case. I even offered her an opportunity to hang out in public or go on dates and she never obliged. She liked to show up to my place, talk, watch movies, cuddle, and make love. I think she needed attention and I gave her some whenever she needed it. Hence, my understanding that she had "led me on." Southern women are drama-prone like that. Come to think of it, I dropped her as a friend after I discovered her shenanigans. I moved on. Originally Posted by FrenchToast

Sounds like you wanted a little more than what she was putting out.

Dealing with a chick like that, all you should give her is dick. She really didn't want anything else. Why take her out on a date when she would rather have another dude do that?

If the pussy was good you should've kept her around, especially if you was hittin' it for free. But then again, if she was drama-prone, you probably did the right thing by cutting her loose. She might have tried to bring you into some shit you'd rather not deal with.

Sounds like you wanted a little more than what she was putting out.

Dealing with a chick like that, all you should give her is dick. She really didn't want anything else. Why take her out on a date when she would rather have another dude do that?

If the pussy was good you should've kept her around, especially if you was hittin' it for free. But then again, if she was drama-prone, you probably did the right thing by cutting her loose. She might have tried to bring you into some shit you'd rather not deal with. Originally Posted by kerwil62

Well I usually go with the flow. I didn't expect much because, like I say, I knew the girl had her "guy friends" so in the back of my mind I told myself that I better tread lightly on this one. I cut ties not because I felt hurt as in boo hoo kind but that I rather deal with people who don't throw curve balls, etc. just in case you begin to develop feelings for that person. I don't know; I was a different person then. I am harder now.

Well I did give her dick. Yes, she wanted more than dick, obviously, because her new guy friend started out as a "friend" and became something more. The other dude made her feel better inside and so she opted for him. I didn't know how serious she was when it comes to test-driving men though. I thought she was one of those girls that any guy could hang out with at a bar or club. I would certainly take her out because I am that kind of a guy; live life man. Friends do things for friends. I didn't care for all the drama shit from her so I said fuck it and moved on.

Well we weren't that sexually compatible. She wanted to be on top but I had to be on top kind of a thing. It was mostly emotional friendship. I thought she was different from most girls like more ethical and rational. She would have stopped having sex with me because of this new guy. She wanted something more in which I could not deliver. Pussy is everywhere, so I am not worried about losing "free pussy." In fact, my best sex partners have always been providers. But I was bothered by the fact that I did lose an emotional life with this girl but hey I can't be pulled around like some dog on a leash in dramatic fashion.