The list of lies is too long, so here is a nifty link to all (or most ) of Obama's lies....
http://obamalies.net/
The Obama lies are so long; it requires a cross directory....
- Whirlaway
- 01-21-2013, 07:54 AM
Has to go to Barrack Hussein Obama. Why ?
The list of lies is too long, so here is a nifty link to all (or most ) of Obama's lies....
http://obamalies.net/
The Obama lies are so long; it requires a cross directory....
The list of lies is too long, so here is a nifty link to all (or most ) of Obama's lies....
http://obamalies.net/
The Obama lies are so long; it requires a cross directory....
- i'va biggen
- 01-21-2013, 08:20 AM
How could he be #1 with all the teabaggers here?
- Whirlaway
- 01-21-2013, 09:41 AM
Feel free to post the list of Tea Party lies .........................waiti ng...
- Whirlaway
- 01-21-2013, 11:36 AM
Got anything yet I'vGotNuting?
That is anything other than meaningless noise from loud pipes .......................
That is anything other than meaningless noise from loud pipes .......................
- Raa1965
- 01-21-2013, 11:45 AM
Ok...Tea Party members hate the gov't...how about giving 5 programs you'd want Tea Baggers to eliminate and why. And I'll give you 5 examples of Tea Party hypocrisy....
I'll even give you one for free...Tea Baggers complain about waste in Medicare yet have not once sent a bill of their creation to allow Medicare to negotiate prices on prescription medicine....
Ball in your court... or should I say mouth...because every one that's what you Tea Baggers like...
I'll even give you one for free...Tea Baggers complain about waste in Medicare yet have not once sent a bill of their creation to allow Medicare to negotiate prices on prescription medicine....
Ball in your court... or should I say mouth...because every one that's what you Tea Baggers like...
- Whirlaway
- 01-21-2013, 11:48 AM
I am waiting to hear the list of TP lies that I'vGotNuting claimed.....................
I gave you my list of the Obama lies...a list that spans 4 years and is so long it has it's own directory of lies !!!!!!!!!!
Ball is in your court........
I gave you my list of the Obama lies...a list that spans 4 years and is so long it has it's own directory of lies !!!!!!!!!!
Ball is in your court........
- Whirlaway
- 01-21-2013, 11:59 AM
BTW; the TP doesn't have enough votes in Congress to write legislation that becomes a "bill"......
But the Tea Party Caucus (50 HR members) has promoted a legislative agenda for smaller government which includes cutting spending...........starting with eliminating one of the biggest entitlements ever - ObamaCare !
The various national TP movements have called for elimination of the Department of Education, the Department of EPA, cutbacks in federal regulations and workforce, cuts in foreign aid, block granting of federal funds, etc., all of which would eliminate or otherwise reduce federal spending and power.
But the Tea Party Caucus (50 HR members) has promoted a legislative agenda for smaller government which includes cutting spending...........starting with eliminating one of the biggest entitlements ever - ObamaCare !
The various national TP movements have called for elimination of the Department of Education, the Department of EPA, cutbacks in federal regulations and workforce, cuts in foreign aid, block granting of federal funds, etc., all of which would eliminate or otherwise reduce federal spending and power.
- Raa1965
- 01-21-2013, 12:17 PM
BTW; the TP doesn't have enough votes in Congress to write legislation that becomes a "bill"......Ok...so you Tea Baggers want the education of our children to be in the hands of Bible literalist who can even agree on its meanings...since the Bible contradicts its self constantly....
But the Tea Party Caucus (50 HR members) has promoted a legislative agenda for smaller government which includes cutting spending...........starting with eliminating one of the biggest entitlements ever - ObamaCare !
The various national TP movements have called for elimination of the Department of Education, the Department of EPA, cutbacks in federal regulations and workforce, cuts in foreign aid, block granting of federal funds, etc., all of which would eliminate or otherwise reduce federal spending and power. Originally Posted by Whirlaway
You want no regulations on clean air and waters...leave it to the big corporations like Koch ....
Eliminate foreign aid...all for it....make them buy it....
Eliminate block grants?? Again go for it.....but I think you Baggers will be begging for block grants...(for important local issues) as soon as their eliminated....go call your local senator or congressman to tell you what gets done due to block grants...and what wouldn't anymore if eliminated...
Any why were at it...as your tea Baggers when they'll be stepping up yo the plate on ending corporate loopholes...that allow GE, Boeing, Exxon to not pays taxes....because thy get millions in exemptions due to loopholes....yeah...lets nd waste in govt.
- Yssup Rider
- 01-21-2013, 12:20 PM
What is your fucking point again, Whirlyturd?
You are a straw dog, sucking a straw doggy dick.
I've got just three words for you, fuckface:
FOUR MORE YEARS!
And that's no lie!
You are a straw dog, sucking a straw doggy dick.
I've got just three words for you, fuckface:
FOUR MORE YEARS!
And that's no lie!
- Whirlaway
- 01-21-2013, 12:20 PM
Still waiting on the list of "lies" by the TP.
- Yssup Rider
- 01-21-2013, 12:23 PM
BTW; the TP doesn't have enough votes in Congress to write legislation that becomes a "bill"...... Originally Posted by WhirlawayA "BILL" IS WHAT IT IS BEFORE IT'S PASSED AND SIGNED INTO "LAW."
You sure know a lot about how the government works. Maybe that's why you're
DIPSHIT OF THE YEAR!
Oh no, Whirlyturd, we haven't forgotten that. And you remind us of it every time you spew more stupid bullshit.
BILL is legislation. LAW is what is passed and signed. VOTES are cast by people who, unlike you, are eligible.
- Whirlaway
- 01-21-2013, 12:29 PM
AssUp you have it backwards; legislation is written, discussed and debated, then it becomes a bill which is voted on.....
- joe bloe
- 01-21-2013, 02:34 PM
Ok...so you Tea Baggers want the education of our children to be in the hands of Bible literalist who can even agree on its meanings...since the Bible contradicts its self constantly....The Tea Party wants our elected repesentatives to abide by their oaths of office to support, protect and defend the Constitution. Most of the federal budget goes to pay for programs that are clearly unconstitutional. We are bankrupt because the federal government has grown way beyond what is allowed by the Constitution.
You want no regulations on clean air and waters...leave it to the big corporations like Koch ....
Eliminate foreign aid...all for it....make them buy it....
Eliminate block grants?? Again go for it.....but I think you Baggers will be begging for block grants...(for important local issues) as soon as their eliminated....go call your local senator or congressman to tell you what gets done due to block grants...and what wouldn't anymore if eliminated...
Any why were at it...as your tea Baggers when they'll be stepping up yo the plate on ending corporate loopholes...that allow GE, Boeing, Exxon to not pays taxes....because thy get millions in exemptions due to loopholes....yeah...lets nd waste in govt. Originally Posted by Raa1965
The Tea Party would like sustainable spending by the federal government so we can continue to survive as a country.
- Yssup Rider
- 01-21-2013, 03:30 PM
AssUp you have it backwards; legislation is written, discussed and debated, then it becomes a bill which is voted on..... Originally Posted by WhirlawayLEGISLATION ARE BILLS, dipshit. Not after they're debated, before when they're filed. Can't debate a bill or resolution that hasn't been filed. Once it's passed and signed it's a law.
Sigh, I suppose you know everything. Maybe the process has changed in the past 30 years. Maybe it changed Friday. That would be news to a few folks I know who are filing/watching/debating them...
Please educate me on the process, oh great dimbulbo...
- Yssup Rider
- 01-21-2013, 03:37 PM
Well, if you want Tea Party lies, let's start with the some of the more blatant lies they believe:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/pol...y_beliefs.html
1. The birth-certificate conspiracy. Reality: Not even official birth certificates from Hawaii, newspaper clippings from 1961, and the testimony of state officials will convince the true-blue Tea Partiers. Which is why WorldNetDaily’s Joseph Farah lectured the National Tea Party Convention for an hour about the “truth” of the birth-certificate story.
2. Death panels. Reality: PolitiFact named Sarah Palin’s Facebook invention its “Lie of the Year,” and the belief was thoroughly exposed as a falsehood by every news network (even Fox). Yet Palin still insists that the panels exist somewhere in the health-care reform bill that was signed into law, its actual language notwithstanding.
3. Obama is a Muslim/Socialist/Fascist. Glenn Beck’s fantasy of the week -- one week Obama was a Socialist, the next he was a Communist, then a Fascist. Then it was on to Marxism and Maoism -- was avidly adopted by sign-bearing fans at Tea Party gatherings, who sometimes shared Beck’s confusion by just calling Obama All of the Above. Reality: Give us a break. Obama’s self-evident cautious centrism, embodied by his health-care reform package stripped of a public option, as well as his more recent embrace of a limited offshore drilling program, has infuriated liberals in his party -- but it hasn’t stopped Tea Partiers from denouncing the president as a radical anyway.
4. (THIS ONE HAS CHANGED LATELY, BUT IT'S STILL BASICALLY A LIE BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THE TP HAS PREACHED SINCE DAY ONE!) Obama is going to take away our guns. Well, the NRA managed to scare a whole lot of people into buying up every gun and piece of ammunition in sight the first year or so after Obama’s election. And at least five police officers died because the suspects they were arresting feared Obama was going to take away their guns. But Obama not only has adhered to his promise not to address gun-control issues, there hasn’t been even a breath of it from his administration. Which, of course, just makes the paranoids that much more paranoid: It’s proof that he’s really up to something.
5. Obama is raising our taxes. Reality: Obama lowered taxes for 95 percent of working Americans in his first year in office. But, you know, he’s a liberal Democrat – and for true-blue right-wing folks, that ALWAYS means a tax hike.
6. Fascism is a left-wing phenomenon. We can thank Jonah Goldberg -- with a big assist from Beck -- for the popularity of this one, even though Goldberg’s thesis has been demolished and angrily dismissed by academic historians. It’s especially come in handy for Tea Partiers with Obama-as-Hitler signs, who are not impressed by those pointy-headed professorial types anyway.
7. Global warming is a hoax. So Sean Hannity assures us, citing the Climategate brouhaha -- which was itself shown largely to be a hoax of its own. Meanwhile, the world’s ocean levels keep rising, and glaciers and the polar ice cap keep receding -- regardless of the endless words thrown up denying that they are.
8. Some 16,000 new IRS agents will enforce the new health care reform act by throwing you in jail. Reality: The IRS is actually only increasing its spending in the coming budget year as it normally would -- but some Republican operatives decided to figure out how many positions its increased budget would buy, and came up with 16,000, a figure that then became gospel on Newt Gingrich’s lips. According to the same mythmakers, this nonexistent new army of health care police was going to start throwing people in jail if they failed to buy health insurance -- though in fact, the only penalties contemplated for such failures are fines and taxes.
9. Two million people were at the 9/12 March on Washington. At the culmination of a monthlong promotion (highlighted by a national Tea Party Express bus tour) by Beck and Fox News, about 70,000 people gathered on the National Mall on September 12 to protest. Beck cited an erroneous early report that over a million had shown up. Later that grew to be two million, the figure now commonly cited by Tea Party leaders as evidence of their tremendous numerical force.
10. The Tea Parties are a non-partisan, broad grassroots movement. Sure, if by non-partisan you mean rabidly paleo-conservative, to the point of even dismissing Republicans, and by grassroots you mean fake populism organized and whipped up by the most popular cable-news network on television, with a heaping helping of corporate financing.
Tea Party folks and their defenders also want to believe that they’re just ordinary Americans who want to be serious about helping their country. But it’s pretty hard to fit that description when you embrace plain old nuttiness.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/pol...y_beliefs.html
1. The birth-certificate conspiracy. Reality: Not even official birth certificates from Hawaii, newspaper clippings from 1961, and the testimony of state officials will convince the true-blue Tea Partiers. Which is why WorldNetDaily’s Joseph Farah lectured the National Tea Party Convention for an hour about the “truth” of the birth-certificate story.
2. Death panels. Reality: PolitiFact named Sarah Palin’s Facebook invention its “Lie of the Year,” and the belief was thoroughly exposed as a falsehood by every news network (even Fox). Yet Palin still insists that the panels exist somewhere in the health-care reform bill that was signed into law, its actual language notwithstanding.
3. Obama is a Muslim/Socialist/Fascist. Glenn Beck’s fantasy of the week -- one week Obama was a Socialist, the next he was a Communist, then a Fascist. Then it was on to Marxism and Maoism -- was avidly adopted by sign-bearing fans at Tea Party gatherings, who sometimes shared Beck’s confusion by just calling Obama All of the Above. Reality: Give us a break. Obama’s self-evident cautious centrism, embodied by his health-care reform package stripped of a public option, as well as his more recent embrace of a limited offshore drilling program, has infuriated liberals in his party -- but it hasn’t stopped Tea Partiers from denouncing the president as a radical anyway.
4. (THIS ONE HAS CHANGED LATELY, BUT IT'S STILL BASICALLY A LIE BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THE TP HAS PREACHED SINCE DAY ONE!) Obama is going to take away our guns. Well, the NRA managed to scare a whole lot of people into buying up every gun and piece of ammunition in sight the first year or so after Obama’s election. And at least five police officers died because the suspects they were arresting feared Obama was going to take away their guns. But Obama not only has adhered to his promise not to address gun-control issues, there hasn’t been even a breath of it from his administration. Which, of course, just makes the paranoids that much more paranoid: It’s proof that he’s really up to something.
5. Obama is raising our taxes. Reality: Obama lowered taxes for 95 percent of working Americans in his first year in office. But, you know, he’s a liberal Democrat – and for true-blue right-wing folks, that ALWAYS means a tax hike.
6. Fascism is a left-wing phenomenon. We can thank Jonah Goldberg -- with a big assist from Beck -- for the popularity of this one, even though Goldberg’s thesis has been demolished and angrily dismissed by academic historians. It’s especially come in handy for Tea Partiers with Obama-as-Hitler signs, who are not impressed by those pointy-headed professorial types anyway.
7. Global warming is a hoax. So Sean Hannity assures us, citing the Climategate brouhaha -- which was itself shown largely to be a hoax of its own. Meanwhile, the world’s ocean levels keep rising, and glaciers and the polar ice cap keep receding -- regardless of the endless words thrown up denying that they are.
8. Some 16,000 new IRS agents will enforce the new health care reform act by throwing you in jail. Reality: The IRS is actually only increasing its spending in the coming budget year as it normally would -- but some Republican operatives decided to figure out how many positions its increased budget would buy, and came up with 16,000, a figure that then became gospel on Newt Gingrich’s lips. According to the same mythmakers, this nonexistent new army of health care police was going to start throwing people in jail if they failed to buy health insurance -- though in fact, the only penalties contemplated for such failures are fines and taxes.
9. Two million people were at the 9/12 March on Washington. At the culmination of a monthlong promotion (highlighted by a national Tea Party Express bus tour) by Beck and Fox News, about 70,000 people gathered on the National Mall on September 12 to protest. Beck cited an erroneous early report that over a million had shown up. Later that grew to be two million, the figure now commonly cited by Tea Party leaders as evidence of their tremendous numerical force.
10. The Tea Parties are a non-partisan, broad grassroots movement. Sure, if by non-partisan you mean rabidly paleo-conservative, to the point of even dismissing Republicans, and by grassroots you mean fake populism organized and whipped up by the most popular cable-news network on television, with a heaping helping of corporate financing.
Tea Party folks and their defenders also want to believe that they’re just ordinary Americans who want to be serious about helping their country. But it’s pretty hard to fit that description when you embrace plain old nuttiness.