To understand Russian hacking, Kevin Mandia of FireEye

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  • 02-20-2018, 03:00 PM
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That was interesting. My question is why this Russian hacking / interference in our elections so surprising? We do it. We have for years and every major country most likely does it to some extent. I'm not saying we shouldn't try and stop it or limit its success but to act like this is just unheard of is stupid. Hell obama sent 300 plus thousand dollars to a group to influence Israeli elections and nobody seemed to think anything of that. I guess the only reason this is a big deal now is because crooked hillary lost. If she would have won all this would have been swept under the rug.
You are correct. Obama sent US TAXPAYERS money to a consulting group to campaign against Bibi during the last Israeli PM election.

This is ridiculous. We need to start posting some of these ads. They're laughable. Just like some of these charges.
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  • 02-20-2018, 03:57 PM
That was interesting. My question is why this Russian hacking / interference in our elections so surprising? We do it. We have for years and every major country most likely does it to some extent. I'm saying we shouldn't try and stop it or limit its success but to act like this is just unheard of is stupid. Hell obama sent 300 plus thousand dollars to a group to influence Israeli elections and nobody seemed to think anything of that. I guess the only reason this is a big deal now is because crooked hillary lost. If she would have won all this would have been swept under the rug. Originally Posted by Budman
That was a question I had....but if you listen to this guy all the way through....the Russians have stepped up the cyber game and we can not compete because we have a much more open society and privacy laws.

He compared it to us living in a glass house and them in a mud hut.....so instead of rocks we might consider spraying water. They want a rock fight.

So to say we all do it is true but not the whole truth.

He said our military used to check their military and our government used to counter their government moves....this is new, since 2015. Which explains the prior administration not doing as much, it is new .
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  • 02-20-2018, 04:00 PM
You are correct. Obama sent US TAXPAYERS money to a consulting group to campaign against Bibi during the last Israeli PM election.

This is ridiculous. We need to start posting some of these ads. They're laughable. Just like some of these charges. Originally Posted by gnadfly

You are sounding like a Russian bot.

Just because we do it...does not mean we ignore them influencing our elections.

what if they are much better at it than we?

Do you want Russia dominating our elections?

You really should think before you type.
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I was not influenced by any Russians, were you?
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I did listen to the entire video. It doesn't change the fact that we do it as well. Maybe they're just better at it. Who the fuck knows. I would bet that we are doing a shit load of this type of interference that as of now is still secret. The majority of the panties in a wad are only because HRC lost. If she had won every fucking lib in the country would have forgotten all about this bullshit.
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  • 02-20-2018, 04:08 PM
I was not influenced by any Russians, were you? Originally Posted by The2Dogs

You would not know you fucking idiot.

that is the point.

Flynn's son was reposting Russian bots nonsense about Clinton running some sex ring out of a DC pizza parlor!





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You would not no you fucking idiot.

that is the point.

Flynn's son was reposting Russian bots nonsense about Clinton running some sex ring out of a DC pizza parlor!





Originally Posted by WTF

Damn. That's pretty much what CNN, NBC, CBS, etc. have been doing. The only difference is they make up their own bullshit stories and pass them off a legitimate news verified by anonymous sources.
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  • 02-20-2018, 04:20 PM
I did listen to the entire video. It doesn't change the fact that we do it as well. Maybe they're just better at it. Who the fuck knows. . Originally Posted by Budman
If they are better at this than us?????... the expert says they are and why.

And he says the solution is to do something to them we are better or threaten to do so unless they stop.

Trump has done nothing!

By doing nothing, he is in fact colluding with the fucking Russians and his buddy Putin.

Why do you think our intelligence groups are scratching their fucking heads at Trump inaction? It makes it appear the God damn dossier is true or by sanctioning the Russians , it will hurt Trumps businesses.

That is why I said Trump was Clinton 2.0.

He did not divest his business interest as he should....his fucking son is over in China now reviving old business deals and meeting government officials.

If Clinton did that you'd be shitting a Benghazi tree.
So, the American Electorate is just too damned stupid to sift through all of the cyber crap.

I am much more worried about a Main Stream Media that has sold it's integrity down the river in pursuing a single agenda and overwhelmingly supporting one political party..

Our founding fathers saw fit to give The Press, in the 1st Amendment a special place in our society by guaranteeing their freedom to print and say things without repercussions from a tyrannical Government.

They did not foresee a time when the press would use that power to push an agenda of their own and back the platform of a political party hell bent on destroying the very tenants of American Society.
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  • 02-20-2018, 04:29 PM
Damn. That's pretty much what CNN, NBC, CBS, etc. have been doing. The only difference is they make up their own bullshit stories and pass them off a legitimate news verified by anonymous sources. Originally Posted by Budman
All the news channels cater to their base....including Fox

The point is, Fox News is catering to Russian bots and you it seems....that should alarm you.

You are now siding with Putin. You sound like Putin..."Everybody does it!".

Everyone was not doing what Russia was doing. Russia changed the game in 2015.

Is it smart on their part? Yes.

Are we stupid for not responding harshly? Hell yes we are.

That is the point, Trump is not responding in kind. Why is that? Why is he making excuses for Russia? Why has he now gotten you making excuses for Russian interference on our elections like it is no big deal.

If Russia invaded us and install trump as President, would you look at Trump the same?

that is basically wtf is happening.
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You are the fucking idiot. You are the one that cannot tell when you are influenced by outside agencies.
Pobrecito.
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The point is, Fox News is catering to Russian bots Originally Posted by WTF
You really are an idiot...



CNN and MSNBC couldn't wait to be bot bait. They were more than happy to help.

If they are better at this than us?????... the expert says they are and why.

And he says the solution is to do something to them we are better or threaten to do so unless they stop.

Trump has done nothing!

By doing nothing, he is in fact colluding with the fucking Russians and his buddy Putin.

Why do you think our intelligence groups are scratching their fucking heads at Trump inaction? It makes it appear the God damn dossier is true or by sanctioning the Russians , it will hurt Trumps businesses.

That is why I said Trump was Clinton 2.0.

He did not divest his business interest as he should....his fucking son is over in China now reviving old business deals and meeting government officials.

If Clinton did that you'd be shitting a Benghazi tree. Originally Posted by WTF
OMG, I haven't laughed like that since I was a little girl! Thank you kind sir!