BTW... fuck you.
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It’s been more than five years since Dick Cheney left the White House and nearly eight years since Donald Rumsfeld was booted from the Pentagon. With the obvious exception of George W. Bush himself, no two men were more responsible for the United States’ disastrous and criminal invasion of Iraq, as well as its embrace of a counter-terrorism model built on the twin barbarities of indefinite detention and systematic torture. In the years that have passed since their departure from public office, both men have released best-selling memoirs, made countless media appearances and no doubt added substantially to their already considerable wealth.
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fucking criminals still making $$ on the backs of dead soldiers and lies....
Originally Posted by CJ7
Want to add demagogue to your resume CJ. Lets take it apart, what about the Iraq invasion was illegal? I'll warn you ahead of time. If you say it is because you think he lied about WMDs (though some were found) then you have to admit that Obamacare passed because of lies and it is illegal. You can't claim illegality due to a partisan vote like Obamacare. The use of military force was authorized by a bipartisan vote. So do you care to try to answer?
Indefinite detention? How long did we hold the German POWs during World War II? For the duration. How long will the war on the west by Islam continue? Until we die or they quit. In other words, for the duration.
Systematic torture??? That is a bit of a stretch. Most of our "torture" techniques are mental instead of physical. Take a look at the movie Zero Dark Thirty. They one thing that they claim to be so bad is water boarding. The same thing we do to our own people as part of resistance training. So it can't be torture. Systematic??? You better do some research about torture in places like Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Communist China, Tojo's Japan, or Saddam's dungeons. Want to hear of severed limbs, glass rods inserted into penises, hot irons, and family tortures. Why do you hate this country so much that you make up these unrealistic claims?