Some guys need to read this…

https://tryst.link/blog/girlfriend-e...-vs-the-myths/

Thanks for sharing that, Cendell. That goes right along with the comments that I have made about GFE.

You’re welcome

Sorry, Cendell. No beef, but I started this hobby before joining eccie. But after that it was a standard to us that GFE meant kissing and bbbj , Like you would do with a GF, but even some that have real world girlfriend will still suite up with intercourse, and that to me seems to be standard. As far as PSE well it goes without saying its as far as her or his limits and preferences. So the article you refer to seems to want to change the standards?? I'm not a big kisser though if I'm attracted and arouse enough I would like that, but no way can I deal with cbj!!! I might as well lube up, or find the best cover and self satisfy. I'm not poking or picking at you or your post. But I will stand firm on what I know and like, and hopefully the guys that's been around will do the same. Donations already have inflated and now the service is going to be downgraded?? So from the past those who offer PSE ask almost double GFE, so with the article that you refer then now it 4 times? Just for kissing or bbbj? And we are to donate to a conversation then get cbj with no kissing at the average rate at 3??? Hopefully there will be more proactive comments to see where this hobby verse is going, cause if that article is correct and that becomes the norm then OF and porn and is the way to go, or might as well start dating lol. Like I said No intentions or bad with you Cendell I find your post highly intriguing and intelligent, but the article to and may I think to speak up for the majority that has been around, Its is BS.

i didn't read any of this
>dateline 2020
outdated - prostitutes have changed their minds a dozen times on these terms and standards since the article was written. None of them can figure out what day it is or how to arrive on time anywhere, let alone know how to cater some experience,


You fuckers cant even agree on an industry standard for verifications. One month its p411, next month its NO ONE USES P411, then its send a pic of your drivers license, then its send a deposit, then providers refuse to give references......


so I'm just gonna say, "BLOW IT OUT YER ASS"

^^^^ No, the article does not want to change the standards. It wants to get back to the original standards and meaning before hobbyists changed them for their own benefit.

back in my day........a GFE meant she takes your money and gets a restraining order against you

Oxymoron:
What a wonderful CBJ performed during my GFE...

Kara,
Just some?

my understanding of menu items on gfe is bbbj and dfk are included.

pse is bbbj and (cov.) greek included.

a standard backpage-now ListCrawler-session is cbj and cfs.

beyond that, everything else is basically up for negotiation. i always ask, even for a BP-style session, if i can get reverse massage included. that adds a new level of spice for a gal with a rockin body, which for me is a minimum threshold, excepting some fetish-type sessions, like a bigger girl who is a tuma freak.

gals who advertise gfe or pse should know the standard meaning so they know what guys will expect. otherwise they can get bad reviews that were totally preventable. if a gal's policy is ymmv, then it is better not to put that in an ad (gfe or pse), and just go with the flow. if it ends up in a review, the hobbyist should also include that dfk or whatever was ymmv.

a true pornstar experience is everyone has their papers from <30 days and you can leave your covers at home. that happens in the hobby more often than you might expect lol..

I'm about to fuck a chick at my price and my rules. We both drunk so hit me in the morning please

Pit,
The thread is about the Tryst blog, not your dating.
Everyone will avoid thread drift/hijack.

Ackshually
This thread is about (one) provider in a sea of millions that is defining "standards".
This is comical because providers cant even figure out the time of day least of all come to some quorum consensus of service.
If Petroom can find satisfaction in a woman, then theres hope for all of us

Nothing to see here.This is just common sense. And the next time anyone advises me to "re-hydrate" or "stay hydrated" I'm going to throw up. This is one of the most common but moronic phrases ever spoken. May as well also say "don't forget to breathe". Fucking idiots.

Thank you, I was unaware all those resources were available on Tryst.
I always go straight to the T&A pics. Unfortunately there is no standard, that's just someone's interpretation/opinion & everyone's is different when it comes to GFE/PSE.
They are marketing terms, I'm still trying to figure out the definition of "open minded"!